Once again, supporters of the “Palestinians” invoke Islam. Yet mainstream Western analysts continue to ignore Islam in examining the Israeli/ “Palestinian” conflict. This is to the severe detriment of their peace plans, as The Palestinian Delusion shows in detail.
“‘Jerusalem belongs to Islam’: Thousands across Turkey protest Trump’s Mideast plan,” Yeni Şafak, January 29, 2020:
Turkish demonstrators poured onto streets across the country on Tuesday to protest U.S. President Donald Trump’s long-awaited Middle East peace plan, which imposes strict conditions for Palestinians but grants broad control to the Israeli government.
Dozens of protesters and members of non-governmental organizations gathered in front of the U.S. Consulate in Istanbul, holding placards and shouting slogans decrying the proposal that designates Jerusalem as “Israel’s undivided capital.”
Many protesters at the rally held placards bearing slogans reading, “Jerusalem belongs to Islam.”
On Tuesday, Trump announced his plan for Israeli-Palestinian peace at a White House event with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu standing at his side.
Although Trump’s stated aim was to end decades of conflict, the plan he advanced favored Israel, underscored by the absence of Palestinians from Trump’s announcement.
Jerusalem is sacred to both Muslims and Jews, as it includes sites known to Muslims as Haram al-Sharif (The Noble Sanctuary), al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the rock, as well as an ancient Jewish temple.
“Trump’s so-called peace plan dubbed the ‘Deal of the Century’ is in Israel’s favour and against the Palestinian people,”a protester said….
Quazgaa says
Muslims belong to mecca.
abad says
Agreed. Medina, too.
Carpediadem says
Medina was originally Jewish but Muslims stole it.
gravenimage says
Medina and Mecca were just the first places Muslims seized.
Sabri S. says
All of the holy lands belong to the original inhabitants…you know, the arabs and semitic people there prior to 1948!!….none of which are eastern european askhenazi!!!
gravenimage says
Of course, Jews have been in the Levant far linger than have Muslims.
Sabri S. has pretended before that Jews are not actually Jews.
gravenimage says
And Sabri S. reference to lands belonging to their original inhabitants could not be more bizarre, given Islam’s having conquered a large chunk of the world by the sword. Of course, he would not condemn the bloody “Prophet” of Islam.
Captain says
Sabri FYI the majority of Israeli Jews today are Sephardic and have their roots in the ME for 5000 years having never left. Get your facts straight.
gravenimage says
Notice that Sabri S. has no problem with Muslims having seized all the places they have conquered by the sword. But then, why would he?
Demsci says
Gravenimage is right Sabri; the Arabs and Turkish and other Muslims conquered so much more land and oppressed so many more non-co-religionists if you will.
Furthermore is n’t it wrong to punish descendants for what ancestors did? Even if it is true what you say (and I don;t think so), aren’t the current Israeli’s to suffer with yet another exchange of land while they were born into this situation and innocent of land-theft?
If you disagree then why don’t you advocate that Istanbul belongs to the Byzantines/ Greeks? I don’t because present day Turks are innocent of the land theft done by their ancestors.
And if the land-theft by the Israeli’s is too recent for you, while that of the Turks, although much much bigger, is farther in the past, where then do you draw some kind of deadline for guilt for land-theft?
But we can agree that mankind will reject future land theft.
Demsci says
I meant ARE the current Israeli’s to suffer ……
Hoppla says
Arabs are Semitic people Ashkenazi’s are white European converts to Judaism.
gravenimage says
Hoppla’s claim that Ashkenazis are all converts to Judaism who have no links to the Levant is false–as is the implication that all Jews in Israel are Ashkenazi.
elee says
Muslim geography: the portion of the world that they have subjugated and continue to hold is Dar-es-Salaam, the lands of peace. The rest of the world is Dar-al-Harb, the abode of war. It consists of (1) parts of the world that they previously subjugated but no longer rule, which it is the duty of Muslims to subjugate by jihad, and (2) parts of the world that they have never subjugated, which it is the duty of Muslims to subjugate by jihad. Got that?
gravenimage says
Yep.
observer says
Got that !
Hoppla says
God created the gentiles to be slaves to the Jews, sounds to me just like Islam. Whitey be gone.
Demsci says
Very right, Elee. But to us, rest of mankind, muslims almost never admit it. Many instead complain about injustice, Even when their enemies Israel, America, the West (and it is the Muslims, at least a large number of them, who declare the enmity, not the Democratic Westerners (including the Israeli’s)), are very generous with every thing except the damned land.
But when Islam would be out of the equation, what is the problem for Palestinians? I think by now billions of humans have exchanged lands by migration, also and especially in the era of, say, 1960 through 2020, and these migrant’s descendants do not seem to miss or long for the specific LAND of their place of origine. As they all were allowed to take their religion with them and were granted equal rights in their new countries.
Of course one can say something similar about Jews, who by now do also have the reasonable chance to live in other countries. But the difference between Jews and Muslims in wanting their own country or countries is obvious to everyone. In number of countries and size of territory and in number of adherents to Israel or Islam which pertains to vulnerability to re-emerging anti-semitism.
gravenimage says
Hoppla wrote:
God created the gentiles to be slaves to the Jews, sounds to me just like Islam. Whitey be gone.
……………….
How is Israelis living in freedom enslaving Gentiles? What vicious claptrap.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
“Jerusalem belongs to Islam.” So does Rome — its conquest comes after that of Constantinople. Can Paris, London, and New York be far behind?
And in the same spirit as the Turks in Talsim Square, “Tomorrow belongs to me.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tUctFu46_c
gravenimage says
+1
SAFI says
London is already Muslim.
gravenimage says
London is over 12% Muslim–admittedly a shocking figure, but still no reason to surrender one of the world’s greatest cities to them.
Hoppla says
England is the first to fall, even members of the Royal family start fleeing the country already. Soon their will be no place to hide, the world will belong to Islam as planned.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is how this appalling apologist for Islamic supremacy thinks. *Ugh*.
Wellington says
Just proving again Islam’s “true worth.” It “merely” begins with hatred of any Jewish state but, let’s be clear, ultimately Islam has contempt for ANY non-Islamic state, the antipathy to the Jewish state (and Jews in general) is just the “launching point” for further iniquitous designs. Jews come first and then all other kuffaars follow. Yeah, same old same old Mohammedan rot.
Islam has a mother lode of bad ideas and purposes, close to the top of the list here is its control-freak nature to dominate all of mankind eventually—you know, the dar al-Islam crap versus the dar al-harb crap, et al.
If mankind were really smart (which sadly it is not), it would have consigned Islam to the trash heap of history long ago. Hasn’t happened yet. Should have. Hence, the curse of Islam will still afflict mankind, starting with the Jews and “going from there.”
elee says
They began their purges of Jews in Mecca and Yathrib (Medina). I would support the return of these territories to the dispossessed Jews any day.
FYI says
Book of Joel {chpt 3}
Jerusalem belongs to the Jews..as the rightful capital of Israel.
The muslims have their pagan Arab god al lah{“The GREATEST of deceivers” k3:54}to misguide them so they won’t get it.
al lah isn’t YHWH.
YHWH has kindly explained things for those who have “eyes to see and ears to hear”
in the realms of authentic prophecy.
{Messianic Jews and Christians who understand Prophecy will get it}
Am Yisrael Chai!
abad says
Allah is the Father of the Lie, AKA Satan
gravenimage says
Turkey: Demonstrators protest Trump peace plan, hold signs saying “Jerusalem belongs to Islam”
…………………….
This is how all pious Muslims think.
ElderlyZionist says
Saudi, Egypt, Qatar and the UAE have all welcomed the Trump Peace Plan. The PA leadership and the Iranian Mullahs are foaming with rage. I’m not surprised to see Turkish demonstrators ranting in the streets.
Erdogan has positioned himself to be the champion of the Sunni Arabs, but I think he’s overplayed his hand. Netanyahu just met with Putin in Moscow, consulting about what is to be done. I hope that the next few months will see the Russians crush Daesh remnants in Idlib and rout Erdogan’s puppet Free Syrian Army.
elee says
Perhaps Putin might find the time and capacity to run the Turks out of Libya too. Erdogan just sent troops there; he and Putin back opposite proxies there. If permitted—and I submit that the betrayal of our Kurdish allies constituted American permission—–if permitted many believe that Erdogans ultimate plan is to liquidate and dispossess all remaining Chaldeans and Yazidis and split the territory with his Persian allies…….sort of like the plans Hitler and Stalin made for Poland. How soon we have forgotten.
CogitoErgoSum says
No, it does not. It doesn’t belong to Islam any more than the Hagia Sofia does or any of the other places that were stolen from the rightful owners by their lying, thieving and murdering predecessors. Have a plate full of what you dish out, Muslims, and enjoy the taste. I hear it’s best served cold.
elee says
Two years ago Erdogans party said that by 2023 he would be caliph and levy jizya. Two years, 11 months to go!
SAFI says
I don’t know about that, but 2023 is 100 years since the signing of the Treaty of Lausanne which Erdogan has repeatedly criticized for granting Turkey its present borders which according to him (and many others in Turkey) are too small and suffocating and for that reason he wants to expand them into some former ottoman provinces. It’s also roughly 100 years since the atheist Ataturk abolished the Caliph’s office. The turkish leadership and especially Erdogan absolutely loves playing with symbolism. Ergogan’s dream is to go down in History as the Anti-Ataturk. Or rather as the new devout “Father of Turks” who’s achievements will eclipse those of the atheist Kemal. The main message he wants to convey is that “100 years later the Ottomans are back!”…
gravenimage says
Right you are, elee:
“‘Get ready for Erdogan’s caliphate,’ official in Turkey’s ruling party says”
https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Get-ready-for-Erdogans-caliphate-official-in-Turkeys-ruling-party-says-394440
elee says
Thanks for posting gi!
gravenimage says
Thanks, elee.
SAFI says
In his interresting talk at an American think-tank Turkish wistleblower Ahmet Yayla(former turkish counterterrorism intelligence officer) claims that Erdogan’s wife Emine apparently believes her husband is the Mahdi! (the islamic end times warlord-messiah) [it’s towards the end at 1h 5m]
https://youtu.be/DgTjSukwCEY?t=3900
black adder says
Ιsn’t the EU paying him billions on the conditions that he does not flood Europe with migrants? This is a form of jizya I think.
Martin says
ISTANBUL – JAN 30 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yANPZ-GXNA
Jayell says
What a horrible cacaphonic racket, just chanting to order like a load of tone-deaf sheep! Makes the Nuremberg rallies look like a concert performance.
mortimer says
A city that is not mentioned in the Koran is an Islamic city, so we are told. There is little that actually makes Jerusalem Islamic save the conquest of Jerusalem by Caliph Omar a long time ago.
But many of the world’s cities have been conquered many times and passed from kingdom to kingdom over many centuries.
The words Jerusalem, Israel and Zion appear more than 850 times in the Bible as such. The Bible is in fact a very Zionist book. The Koran never mentions Jerusalem and states that the Children of Israel should dwell in the Land of Israel.
Most Muslims have not realized that Allah is speaking there … not someone’s ‘opinion’.
janwog says
Beware Orthodox Islam considers the world to become islamic.
FYI says
Yes,according to the koran{5 v 20-25} the Children of Israel should dwell in the land of Israel.
The koran also insists that the right to be a prophet was given to the Children Of Israel:
“And verily WE gave the Children of Israel the scripture and the command and the PROPHETHOOD”
Koran 45:16
So any authentic and true prophet MUST satisfy this criterion of being from the Children of Israel{i.e Jewish}.
Jesus Christ,the Apostles,John the Baptist,Moses,Elijah etc all satisfy allah’s criterion.
But guess who does NOT satisfy this koranic criterion?
The “prophet” muhammed
{pbuh,actual prophecy be unknown to him}
muhammed was NOT associated with the Children of Israel.
Thus the koran shows how muhammed cannot have been,by allah’s own criterion,an authentic prophet.
“I have fabricated things against God and attributed to him things he has not said”
muhammed
{al tabari 6:111}
jcareid@yahoo.co.uk says
No it don’t. Jerusalem not mentioned in the bible.
marc says
It’s mentioned many times in the Torah (what is known as the five books) using many names, but not specifically “Jerusalem”, but that was written before they entered the promised land, in Tanach which came a little later, that’s the rest of early Hebrew scripture, it is regularly mentioned, it’s just a matter of how many thousands of years you want to go back.
If your really interested, there’s a good discussion here https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Jerusalem-mentioned-641-times-in-the-Torah-but-not-once-by-name-in-the-Quran
gravenimage says
Thanks for. that link, Marc
Walter Sieruk says
All those Muslim demonstrators of the nation of Turkey who hold up signs which read “Jerusalem belongs to Islam.” In their Islamic brainwash view of thins much have their religious blinders on because God had given all land that now composes the State of Israel, including all of the including all of Jerusalem to the Jewish people. This may be found in the Bible, as seen in, for example, Genesis 28:13-15. 35:10-12. Deuteronomy 32:48,49. Psalm 105:7-11. 135:4. In other words the Jews have all this land by Divine Right. Furthermore, the Jewish people should have this land by historic rights as shown in First Kings 4:20,21, 24,25. 8:55, 56.
Furthermore , those Muslim demonstrators of Turkey are a reflection of the President of Turkey Erdogan , who had declared “Whoever is on the side of Israel ,let everyone know that we are against them.” This then by those words “against them.” Likewise must mean against him of her ,as an individual, who for the State of Israel
This must thus mean that they are also against Him. Who is God for being on the side of the Israel for being for Jewish State of Israel. As it is written in the Bible, “For the Lord has chosen Jacob for Himself, Israel for His special treasure.” Psalm 135:4. [N.K.J.V.]
Walter Sieruk says
For President Trump wisely said “It’s time to officially recognize [the reality of] Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.” Yes, indeed, it’s very much time to recognize Jerusalem as the capital city of the State of Israel, and he then acted on his word and he had done so by good decision of moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem .This bold and wise decision of President Trump to move the US embassy to Jerusalem has greatly offended many of the Muslim clerics . Be they, for example, the imams of Turkey or of some other Muslim nation. Those Muslim clerics with their mind control and their unconscionable ways they manipulate the people from the mosques set the Turkish people all worked up so they engage in such demonstrations as seen in the above, top, and article. “
The fact is President Trump made the right decision and if the Muslim clerics of Turkey don’t happen to like it, well then it’s “tough beans” to them .
As the Bible informs its readers “The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter His voice from Jerusalem … the Lord will be the hope of His people ,and the strength of the children of Israel.” Joel 3:16.
OLD GUY says
Islamic clerics have their grand plan to dominate the world. I’am afraid there is no peaceful solution to the islamic issue. The more you give them the more they want and expect, they see proposals that provide them with cash and additional land as a weakness in their enemies.
John Lloyd Scharf says
Jerusalem belongs to the Most Holy G_D. Muhammadans and Muhammad belong to the ruler of Hell.
Sven Lindeberg says
Urgent suggestion here. Prof. Spencer´s latest book – You know – “The Palestinian Delusion” MUST BE TRANSLATED into some local languages. E.g. into S-W-E-D-I-S-H, because Sweden is as boiling pan of MUSLIM hatred against the Jewish society and swedish government is sooo biased for ISLAM, so its very FIRST activity was to ACCEPT a Palestine STATE . Please – Teach these nickinpoop ministers some HISTORY FACTS …