The talk about Allah extinguishing wars is derived from one of the Qur’an’s innumerable denunciations of Jews: “And the Jews say, ‘The hand of Allah is chained.’ Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say. Rather, both his hands are extended; he spends however He wills. And that which has been revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in transgression and disbelief. And We have cast among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. Every time they kindled the fire of war, Allah extinguished it. And they strive throughout the land corruption, and Allah does not like corrupters.” (Qur’an 5:64)
Once again we see a “Palestinian:” organization framing its opposition to peace in Islamic terms. Once again all mainstream analysts ignore this aspect of the conflict.
“Fatah: ‘Trump… shove [the deal] up your [ass]’ or ‘we’ll declare a war only Allah can extinguish,” by Nan Jacques Zilberdik and Itamar Marcus, Palestinian Media Watch, February 9, 2020:
Abbas’ Fatah posted a video threatening US President Trump that Palestinians will launch a war that “only Allah will be able to extinguish” if Trump continues to promote his peace plan. Fatah’s video ended with the words: “Trump… roll up [the deal]… and shove it up your ‘ass’.”
“We’ll redeem Palestine with blood… Over our dead bodies, we won’t let it pass, and if you want to overstep my limit, Trump, we’ll blind you; and if you want war – we’ll declare it and only Allah will be able to extinguish it. We’ll drive your Israel crazy and turn it upside-down. Trump, gather up this deal quickly, fold it and roll it up, you idiot, put it in the center, and shove it up your ‘ass’ (lit. in Arabic “tinak” meaning “your mud”, a play on the word “tizak” meaning “your ass”).”
[Official Fatah Facebook page, Feb. 4, 2020]
Thursday and Friday’s four terror attacks against Israelis in which 14 were wounded didn’t appear out of nowhere. Palestinian Media Watch has documented that the PA and Fatah continuously encourage Palestinians to see the use of violence and terror as a legitimate and even the preferred way to “resist the occupation” and “the deal of the century.” Accordingly, they have urged Palestinians to fight and die as “Martyrs” in response to Trump’s peace plan.
The following is the full text of the video:
Palestinian poet Adnan Balawneh: “We’ll redeem Palestine with blood, it’s not a toy you can play with, and it’s not your father’s inheritance, you idiot, so that you can divide it and give it as a gift, and nonchalantly hold your summit and summon the traitors to you. At whose expense do you flatter and placate Zionism, and sign, sell, and give [it] as a gift? Is it your land or did you find it? I’ll tell you something on my behalf, and my entire people says this: Listen to us, you worthless man, open your ears, this deal will never pass! This deal will never pass! This deal will never pass!
Over our dead bodies, we won’t let it pass, and if you want to overstep my limit, Trump, we’ll blind you; and if you want war – we’ll declare it and only Allah will be able to extinguish it. We’ll drive your Israel crazy and turn it upside-down. Trump, gather up this deal quickly, fold it and roll it up, you idiot, put it in the center, and shove it up your ‘ass’.”
Text on screen: “Shove it up your ‘ass’”
In the expression “shove it up your ‘ass’,” the poet used the word “tinak” in Arabic, which means “your mud” and rhymes with the word “tizak” meaning “your ass.”
[Official Fatah Facebook page, Feb. 4, 2020]…
Mitch Kumstein says
Them Arabs sure got a colorful language…..???
Michael Copeland says
Time to end the everlasting refugee status.
gravenimage says
*Spot on*, Michael.
Ray Jarman says
Were it not for Jihad Watch and others like BNI and Gatestone Institute, very few would be aware that a peace plan has been formulated and offered to the parties concerned. I will bet that none of the major news networks nor the press will inform the people in the US, Canada or Europe of either the peace plan much less these remarks from Fatah. Not even Fox News has apprised the viewers of the balloons carrying explosives that have injured Israeli civilians which causes me to want to go out and yell but it would do nothing to wake the people up. The lack of any news is worse than false news in that if I read or hear something that seems to be in error, it will cause me to examine it but if one knows nothing of the events, there is nothing to investigate. It reminds me of FDR refusing to admit only a thousand Jewish people who fled the NATZI genocide attempt that went unreported until, of all people, Bill Moyers documented the tragedy. “No news” is not new.
James Lincoln says
Ray Jarman says,
“The lack of any news is worse than false news in that if I read or hear something that seems to be in error, it will cause me to examine it but if one knows nothing of the events, there is nothing to investigate.”
Very insightful, my compliments.
b.a. freeman says
i know how U feel,Ray. the most effective fake news is *NO* news, and the liars know that. there is a *lot* of history they obfuscate, and they lie about that which they cannot hide
for instance, the lying left has always taught that nazism and fascism came from the right … but they provide no evidence. instead, they intimate that the “experts” have documented this, so it must be true. nazism and fascism are actually more-developed forms of socialism, developed by german socialists and italian socialists, respectively. the left always claims that fascists in general are merely right-wing thugs who have no philosophy, but EVERY SINGLE FASCIST LEADER was either a socialist or a syndicalist before he became a fascist. how is that connected with the right? it isn’t; it’s just a leftist misdirection. i’m sure that they would rather not have to say anything (the “no news” approach), but they cannot because of WWII, so they lie about it instead. and because the left has controlled education in the u.s. from pre-K to post-doctorate for decades, and in EUrabia almost since the beginning of public education in the 19th century, few people know how to think critically, because they are never taught to do so, unless for STEM-type fields in which critical thinking is fenced in so as not to be applied to real life. because of this, nobody ever checks anything; the proof of that is that so many people *do* fall for bulls**t put out by lying leftist legacy media, fascist social media, and fascist entertainment.
and as for lies FDR told, check out “Day of Deceit,” by robert stinnett (2001-05-08). mr. stinnett filed FoIA requests proving that the u.s. knew about the japanese fleet in the northern pacific, and that the naval command in honolulu was not informed about it. in other words, FDR wanted to get into the war, so he goosed the japanese with oil embargoes until they attacked us at an unprepared and essentially undefended point. there was no way the u.s., which was isolationist at the time, would have otherwise entered the war, so this man threw away 2400 lives to join the fun. now, as it happens, i happen to believe that it was a *good* thing that we got into the war, since without us, the germans and japanese may very well have won. we were busily getting ready at the time, so we may well have been able to defeat them anyway, but i’m willing to bet it would have been a lot more nuclear, with lots more deaths. nevertheless, FDR had no right to set up our troops for a fall; furthermore, the troops were probably expecting to fight soon, and had signed up to be in harms way, but 68 civilians died as well, and not one of them volunteered to die. FDR was full of himself, and was essentially the u.s. version of a fascist. he and mussoline admired one another, because they GOT THINGS DONE – laws be damned (remember his court-packing threat?).
finally, i did not know that bill moyers exposed the m.s. st. louis entry refusal. back in the 1960s and 1970s, as a young man, i knew that the media had a liberal bias, but i didn’t know how *bad* it was; apparently, however, some told the truth even if it embarrassed their heroes. it’s a hopeful sign, but most leftist media liars don’t pretend to be unbiased very much any longer, because they opine that anybody who opposes their viewpoint is a knuckle-dragging nazi (as if!). thank U for that tidbit of information (which i will check out, of course).
Wellington says
You are wrong about a lot, b.a. freeman. I’ll just mention three. First, no serious historian thinks that FDR (about whom I have many reservations) deliberately encouraged an attack on Pearl Harbor. FDR and those in his Administration felt it was very likely by late 1941 that the Japanese would attack someplace but they didn’t know if it would be the Philippines, Guam, Wake Island, Hawaii, et al. FDR and the military did think that if it were Hawaii it would not be a military attack but sabotage. They were wrong but there was no Machiavellian intention here by FDR and others.
Second, Nazism was so muddled that it had both Far Left and Far Right ideas in it but after the Night of the Long Knives (June 30th, 1934) the Far Left Nazis (e.g., Ernst Rohm) were killed and thereafter Nazism was a pure Far Right phenomenon and where German businessmen were free to make huge profits, something most certainly not Far Left.
Third, not every single fascist leader was a socialist or syndicalist before they embraced fascism. Two examples are Franco of Spain and Salazar of Portugal. Mussolini was at one time a socialist but as for Hitler his thinking was so convoluted that, like Nazism itself, he held to both Far Left and Far Right ideas but after 1934 the Far Left stuff was essentially gone from his mind if not even before this.
James says
I am no historian, but Dinesh D’Souza says that Nazism was a leftist movement, not conservative, and I think his arguments are persuasive. Watch some of his videos on this issue. I think it is more convincing than the statements by Wellington, who of course knows a lot too.
Ray Jarman says
Wellington,
I have a couple of questions for you. First, if FDR and some at the Pentagon did not realize that Pearl Harbor was to be attacked, why were the heavy cruisers and aircraft carriers abruptly put to sea rather than at port and why were old ineffectual battle ships left at port. The sinking of the battle ships touched the hearts and sole of the nation even more so than the Twin Towers as they were a symbol of strength.
My Second Question is does not NATZI mean the National Socialists German Workers Party where the word “socialists” states the left side the political spectrum. Even in the few companies that were technically owned by an individual or group of individual, the state completely controlled the entire production levels as well as what was to be produced.
Lastly, Franco was a nationalist who believed that Spain had to rule itself and also, the completely miss labelled Republicans were being controlled by Stalin. Spain is also where Stalin sent those he mistrusted to be killed in the civil (there was nothing civil in that war either) war. Had not Franco stood up to Stalin, Spain would have completely imploded economically. He also prepared the nation for the return of the monarchy.
I normally don’t take exception to your comments but this time, I felt the need to do so.
Wellington says
James: Dinesh D’Souza also thinks that the reason the Islamic world hates the Western world is because we have become an immoral world. He doesn’t grasp the real reason why Islam hates all non-Muslims so it does not surprise me that he would say what he did about Nazism.
Moreover, Nazism was never a conservative movement but until 1934 a combination of radical (Far Left) and reactionary (Far Right) thought and after 1934’s the Night of the Long Knives when the radical (Far Left) people were eliminated (in part because by that time Hitler knew that those on the right, like the army and businessmen, didn’t want to have anything to do with the socialistic wing of the Nazi movement and in part because any threat to Hitler within the Nazi Party came from the radical side) Nazism henceforth to its end in 1945 was a pure Far Right movement with, at most, only lip service paid to the Far Left features that existed in the original 1920 Nazi 25 point program, which program was a muddle of both Far Left and Far Right principles.
Wellington says
Ray Jarman: The fact that the aircraft carriers and heavy cruisers were out at sea when the Japanese attacked on December 7th, 1941 was just pure dumb (and good) luck. There was no design involved here.
Nazism, as I have mentioned many times, was initially a hodgepodge of Far Left and Far Right thought. Its very name, National Socialist German Workers Party, reveals this, with the “National and German parts” indicating nationalism, something rejected by those on the Far Left who think of nation states as just one more example of capitalistic constructs to keep the workers of the world disunited, something that can certainly be found in Marxist and anarchist thinking which is more softly peddled by milder socialists and the “Socialist and Workers” parts indicating Far Left rot. In short, Nazism was a total muddle and made little sense and without the dynamic though highly malevolent personality of Hitler would have forever remained a nothing party. Hitler himself was a pragmatist in many ways and once he assumed power in January of 1933 he understood, if not even before this, that the left-wing aspects of his party turned off many influential people, like the army and businessmen I mentioned above to James, and so he got rid of them in the Night of the Long knives “event,” June 30th, 1934. This included getting rid of Ernst Rohm who was the head of the Sturmabteilung (SA) and making sure henceforth that the SA, where many Far Left elements in the Nazi movement could be found, was denuded of any real authority. The SA had served its purpose in Hitler’s rise to power—the Brown Shirts and all that—but the German military wanted nothing to do with the SA nor did those in business and related fields (the German military also wanted nothing to do with the SS but here Hitler prevailed over the military). Also, and as I mentioned to James above, threats to Hitler within the Nazi Party came from the Far Left and this was another reason why he had such people “dispatched.” So, after June 30th, 1934, Nazism was Far Right in every way except possibly in high theory land and I don’t think even here.
You are correct about the Nazi state supervising many companies but this is indicative not of socialism but crony capitalism, almost it could be argued a throwback to that early stage of capitalism known as mercantilism whereby monopolies existed along with heavy state supervision but this was never socialism, nor was it in Hitler’s Germany. Huge profits were made by many German businessmen and huge profits is NEVER something associated with socialism.
Finally, with respect to Franco, I wrote what I did to b.a. freeman because he asserted that every fascist was originally a socialist or syndicalist. Franco surely was never a socialist or syndicalist and the kind of nationalism he embraced could definitely be called fascist. I agree with you about the forces Franco and the Nationalists fought—they had as many faults if not more than did Franco’s forces. I made no judgment about Franco in my comment to b.a. freeman but I will now. While never wanting or endorsing dictatorship or authoritarian rule, Spain was such a mess by 1936 that I believe only authoritarian rule by a capable man like Franco could bring Spain from a virtual state of anarchy to some kind of stable (though oppressive) society. Thus, while negative on Franco I recognize that those he fought were not good for Spain in the long run either. Indeed, within the forces that fought Franco there was hatred for different factions which led to a civil war within the Civil War, especially in Barcelona.
Ah, the Spanish Civil War was a tragedy all around and there were really no good guys, no George Washington type to be found anywhere, but Franco did what he felt he had to do to save Spain. I know he is castigated today highly but just as it is overlooked that many Hollywood personnel in the film industry were indeed quite sympathetic to Communism (e.g., Dalton Trumbo the writer was at one time a member of the American Communist Party, admired Stalin and blamed Truman and America for starting the Cold War, which I think is nonsensical), so is it the case that the forces that fought Franco were sympathetic to terrible ideas too like socialism and Marxism. I’ve often wondered if all those people who complain about the Hollywood blacklist to this day would complain if all those sympathetic to Communism had been sympathetic to Nazism instead. Almost certainly not and indicative of the fact that Far Left totalitarianism gets a pass often times while Far Right totalitarianism does not. Neither should.
I hope, Ray, I have satisfactorily answered your questions and concerns. If I have not, let me know. Take care.
gravenimage says
Good posts, Wellington.
gravenimage says
*So* true, Ray. Most people I talk to–even those who pride themselves on following the news and being well-informed–have never even heard of most of these stories.
Westman says
There is NO CONFUSION REMAINING. Fatah, Hamas, and the PA will never accept or even begin talking about any “peace” arrangement that does not include extinguishing the Nation of Israel and the expulsion of all Jews from, “The River To The Sea”.
In response to a peace offering: “We’ll redeem Palestine with blood… Over our dead bodies, we won’t let it pass, and if you want to overstep my limit, Trump, we’ll blind you; and if you want war – we’ll declare it and only Allah will be able to extinguish it.”
So why haven’t you done it, Fatah? No friends left except Iran? The big Sunni boys are tired of you? Don’t want to have the “ISIS” experience? Face it, Fatah, you’re on the lowest rung of the ME ladder; parasites, stealing the peoples chance for peace to keep yourself in permanent business.
gravenimage says
Yes, Westman–I realized this myself for certain after Oslo.
Rolf Wittwer says
Let us forget and ignore this primitive, bloodthirsty and murdereous indoctrinated people.
Nothing positive or constructive ever comes from them!
It’s Just mockery, hatred, violence, agitation, revenge and terror.
Day by day, month for month, year for year.
And all of this appens in the name of Allah?
Westman says
Listening to the video, it has all the expression and reverberation (applied to make the voice sound larger) of a Monster Truck advertisement. Was it expected to sound like Allah? There was no video showing Fatah’s successful engagements – so disappointing! Where are the exploding cars? Where are the collapsed tunnels?
revereridesagain says
He’s got to impress his whorehouse god Allahoochiekoo or he won’t get his 72 virgins, being as he is still falling short of a martyr’s death. Might be why imams always remind me of King Kong pounding his chest and yowling from atop one tall building or another with a captive woman at his feet.
mortimer says
These uncontrolled idiots have made threats against the life of the US president. This requires a diplomatic and clandestine response. The CIA should redouble its efforts to cripple Fatah, Hamas and other Pally terrorist groups. Their front organizations in the US should be declared terrorist organizations and put out of business on American soil. The Pallies have created too much misery and grief.
It’s time to end this psychodrama that’s gone on since 1921 … 99 long years. The US should find the right time and recognize that the whole West Bank is Israel.
gravenimage says
+1
James Lincoln says
mortimer says,
“The US should find the right time and recognize that the whole West Bank is Israel.”
Agreed – 100%.
John_C_Barile says
Yes, they really do show themselves to be genuine “peace partners.” We sure do need realists like Barack Obama at the helm to bring about a new “Spring.”
tgusa says
This is the longest running unfunny sitcom in modern history.
underbed cat says
What good is a acceptable negociation with Hamas, they would have taken the money with the land and broke the deal anyway, so save the money. I am sure this was a surprise for the President or maybe he just baited Fatah to diss the plan and waited for the threats, so now he is comtemplating his move, that will reinforce the base of knowledge on dealing with Hamas. There is no point much like the others, the last guys that tried to offend and bully.
gravenimage says
“Moderate” Fatah to Trump: “Shove the deal up your…” “We’ll declare a war only Allah can extinguish”
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Yep–so much for their being “partners for peace” with Israel.
Just Venting says
Let’s face it. This peace proposal was DOA just like the previous ones.
First, it takes at least two people to make peace, but only one to make war.
Second, the British promised that same territory to three or four different groups if these would support the British Great War effort, and especially help beat the Turks.
Third, the British kept carving out more and more from the Jewish allotment at the insistence of the Arabs.
Lastly, while certain Jewish groups were rather rough to deal with, the Arabs were more numerous and tended to get rather violent rather quickly. This was exacerbated by the successful Jewish farms, factories, and businesses that needed laborers. The Brits kept restricting Jewish immigration and the Jews kept hiring their Arab neighbors, which resulted in more Arab migration to the Jewish areas. The only real answer is for one or the other group to pack up and go somewhere else, but that is a non-starter.
I would like to say I have a solution for this ongoing problem, but there is none. One group is willing to live with their “neighbors.” The other group, for the most part wants to basically erase their “neighbors” from the face of the earth. Good luck finding a solution that works to the benefit of both parties.
Reziac says
Best possible response from the ‘Palestinians’. Trump’s offer was crafted to demonstrate that they don’t want peace even if they get everything on a silver platter, they want continued chaos, and they’re doing so in spades.
freeman says
Notice how they say to Trump “if you want war we’ll declare it”. Trump made a huge effort to come up with a very generous peace plan and they accuse him of wanting war.