Of course. Not to believe him would have been “Islamophobic.”
“Immigration attorney explains why accused Al-Qaeda leader possibly lived in Arizona legally,” by Steve Nielsen, FOX 10 Phoenix, February 5, 2020 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
PHOENIX – How did a man who is accused of being an Al-Qaeda hit squad leader in 2006 live legally in the valley for more than a decade? That’s what many are asking after Ali Ahmed was arrested in connection to the murders of two Iraqi police officers.
An immigration attorney tells FOX 10 Wednesday that it takes years sometimes to be approved as a refugee, and that a refugee needs to show proof they’re being persecuted.
Iraqi authorities claim Ahmed lead an Al-Qaeda hit squad that killed two officers in Fallujah in 2006, he was shot in the side of the face as a result of the alleged incident.
That wound may have helped him become a refugee in Arizona, according to immigration attorney, Gabriel Vadasz, at Diamondback Legal Law Firm.
Last week, the A-Plus Driving School instructor was arrested, accused in the 2 murders more than a decade ago, continents away.
Vadasz says to even start the refugee claim, there’s an hours-long interview where the applicant has to prove they’ve been persecuted. “The reality is, you have to show a substantial amount of evidence just to pass most of those interviews and get to the point you’re submitting the application,” Vadasz says. “If someone’s been shot, the bullet wounds speak for themselves.”
Jabir Algarawi with RICE, a nonprofit that helps refugees get settled, said Ahmed told him he “hated extremists.” Ahmed claimed he was a victim of Al-Qaeda, not a member, he said.
“He had a bullet in his body and a scar on his body. He got shot, that’s true,” Algarawi said. “Multiple times.” Ahmed told him he was accepted as a refuge in 2008 after a year-long application process….
mortimer says
To an Al Qaeda leader, the definition of an ‘extremist’ would be someone who has criticized Islam’s jihad doctrine, near-enemy doctrine, taqiyya doctrine, physical punishment doctrine and misogyny doctrine.
He would consider the Shi’ite mullahocracy of Iran to be ‘extremists’. He himself is ‘not’ an extremist.
The investigators did not have access to all the intel regarding this terrorist.
Wellington says
Spot on, mortimer.
Lion Heart says
Wellington : he claimed he hated extremists! ?? oh yeah that’s where taqiyya and deception work with Muslims especially in dealing with the non Muslims of the West ! I in said before guys ! Never trust any Muslim and if a Muslim is a piece of gold, then don’t put it in your pocket otherwise it will rip through “ that’s a proverb I learned from my Christian ancestors who said it hundreds of years ago out of their bitter experience with Islam since its rise in Iraq and I am a Canadian Christian guy originally from Iraq.
gravenimage says
thebigW, both Mortimer and Wellington have said that you cannot tell a devout Muslim from a “moderate” one. I’m not sure why you are so intent on claiming that they have not.
gravenimage says
Good point, Mortimer.
This is like Muslims saying they “hate terrorism”, and you find out they are talking about America and Israel defending against Jihad.
James Lincoln says
+1
WithPurpleAbandon says
Spot on.
Lion Heart says
Mortimer : you’re right ? so this Iraqi Muslim terrorist (Ali Ahmed ) claimed he hated extremists! ?? oh yeah that’s where taqiyya and deception work with Muslims especially in dealing with the non Muslims of the West ; and I said before guys ! “ Never trust any Muslim and if a Muslim is a piece of gold, then don’t put it in your pocket otherwise it will rip through “ that’s a proverb I learned from my Christian ancestors who said it hundreds of years ago out of their bitter experience with Islam since its rise in Iraq and I am a Canadian Christian guy originally from Iraq.
PRCS says
1. Despite the general public having been indoctrinated by Muslims and their their useful idiots otherwise, a Muslim’s compliance with The Big Book and other ‘authentic’ Islamic texts is not an ‘extremist’ act..
And Muslims like Ali Ahmed use that propagandist obfuscation to their advantage, declaring as he did his hatred of (wink, wink) ‘extremists’, not jjihad or jihadists.
Dollars to donuts, whomever interviewed him never asked about ‘the lesser jihad’ during the ‘hours long interview’.
2. And now that the scam has been exposed, does immigration attorney, Gabriel Vadasz finally realize Ahmed’s gunshoot wounds didn’t ‘speak for themselves”?
3. Good thing A-Plus Driving School instructor Ahmed was arrested before he carrying out an act of vehicular jihad.
WithPurpleAbandon says
That’s an accurate summary, PRCS.
WithPurpleAbandon says
Quite so. First thing we need to know is that all non-muslims are “extremists” this way, given the fact that we live with our minds in Jahiliyya : we are deemed distorters of the supposed universal truth that is Allah. Nothing more extremist in Islam than that. And of course, all other muslims deemed not serious enough in their reverence for Allah or who have added heretical interpretations to the ideological mix are equally “extremists” in this manner. And last but not least there are other mushrikun : supposed muslims who do the bidding of infidels. Like those two officers.
What makes this all the more crass is the fact Ahmed claimed he was a victim of Al-Qaeda, But that’s indeed taqiyya for you. There’s nothing shameful or particularly “extremist” or even unorthodox about that in Islam.
Just turn the whole concept of extremism upside down until you find stupid idiots to represent you in a Western Court of Law.
The man should be extradited to Iraq asap.
Walter Sieruk says
How naive and gullible can some people be, just to the word of that man at “face value” when he said that he “hated extremists” and then approve of him as a “refugee” ?
To just think about it ,what was he going to say to them . Did they think that he would say to them “I’m a jihadist chief of Qaeda and want to enter into the USA to killing America and destroy the American infrastructure .” Of course not , he said to them exactly what they wanted to hear him say
In addition , it might be now appropriate to further understand a very strange contrast between the worldview of dedicated jihad-minded Muslim from the East and the worldview Western man who was born and raised as a citizen of the United States of America. So to completely different ways people of the Christian West and those of the Islamic East view the word “Extremest.”
The terms “Extremist Muslim” and “Islamic extremist” is actually a misuse of terms. “Moderate Muslim” are actually Western term and not that well known in the Islamic Middle East. This is because what In the Islamic mindset in the Muslim Middle East as well as in Indonesia and other Muslim controlled countries what the non-Muslims of the Western nations view as “radical and “extremist” the Muslims of those places in the world see as “Normal” and even Devout and committed to the Cause of Islam”.
Furthermore, those “Moderate Muslims” are those of the Islamic worldview and non-devout and non –committed Muslims. The violent jihadists even see them as “hypocrites.” Therefore, this explains the jihadist chant of those jihad-minded Muslims in different Islamic terror organizations. When they chant out loud “Death to infidels and hypocrites.” Meaning Death to people who and not Muslims and people who are non- jihadist Muslims.
Concerning the last part of this above essay, the violent spirit of that vicious jihadist chant “Death to infidels and hypocrites.” The later word of the chant “hypocrites” in the jihad –minded Muslim worldview is further explain in the book titled JIHADIST PSYCHOPATH by Jamie Glazov , for on page 42 the reader is informed that “Islam mandates that devout and real Muslims must punish , and in some circumstances kill, those Muslims whom they regard as neither legitimate nor properly devout.”
gravenimage says
+1
GreekEmpress says
Mohammad Arif is running for the Democratic nomination in the primary race for US Senate in Arizona.
Wellington says
More “Muslim creep,” GreekEmpress, as I know you know.
gravenimage says
Is this the same Mohammad Arif who ran for governor in California a few years back?
GreekEmpress says
Hi gravenimage,
Yes—he ran two times for governor in 2003, and 2010. Moved to Arizona in 2015. Also was secretary of treasury during Howard Johnson’s California Senate campaign. He was a 2018 Green Party candidate who sought to represent district 11 in Arizona and lost in the general election.
He is the President and CEO of ArifCo, Inc., Founder of Umma4Peace.org and Pakistan Welfare Revolution PWRF Foundation.org. (I couldn’t find anything on either one of those orgs.)
Stressed that he loves the USA because he learned how good the country treats human beings, regardless of their backgrounds. Says he’s blessed to be an American.
Deborah Abboud also ran for the US Senate seat that Kyrsten Sinema won. Abboud is now vice-chair of the AZ Democratic Party.
That’s all I could find out about him.
GreekEmpress says
PS It would be nice to believe he loves this country, but with all the taquiya how can you ever be sure?
PRCS says
Like used car sales people, GE, you can’t.
gravenimage says
I thought so, GreekEmpress. I hope he does no better in Arizona than he did in California.
Walter Sieruk says
That jihadist chief ,Ali Ahmed, of al Qaeda who faked being what many Westerner call a “moderate” to obtain “refugee status” and thus enter America should also as a reminder that in the USA there might still be other jihadists who are engaged in Islamic scheming for future Muslim terrorist attacks against Americans and America..
Therefore , we ,as Americans , should not live in fear or be afraid to go to difference place and do different things ,yet even though we should feel no fear we should keep aware of our surrounding and be alert for anything that seems not to look quite right. As in “What’s wrong with this picture?” Then if something questionable is seen then it’s important to go and tell the right person about it.
As example, In NY.NY a tee-shirt vendor saw some smoke come out of a parked van and so he went and informed as police officer about it.
As it has been said “If you see something, say something.” To put this in another way, the wise words of Thomas Jefferson apply more now more than those words of wisdom did in his own time. For Mr. Jefferson declared “Let the eye of vigilance never be closed.”
Wellington says
He hated extremists? Must have been referencing Presbyterians and Catholics since, as everyone knows, Presbyterian suicide bombers are all over the place and Catholics killing people for criticizing their faith is practically a daily event. Yeah, this is who he must have meant.
mortimer says
Yes, we know Wellington is correct. He is quoting Pope Francis, the honorary ayatollah and self-declared expert on ‘extremism’.
Pope Francis ‘knows’ that Mohammed’s jihad raids, his beheadings of captured prisoners, his slave trading, his terrorism, his rapes and sex slavery, and his use of torture have nothing… NOTHING … to do with Islam. The pope claims that even Mohammed MISUNDERSTOOD Islam … but the pope understands ‘real’ Islam.
Wellington says
OMG, mortimer, what a disaster to the Catholic Church Francis is.
But it’s worse than this as I am certain you have already reckoned, to wit, Pope Francis is a menace to all of Western Civilization, the very civilization that explored the parameters of freedom (including women’s rights—no civilization has engaged in more of a concern for women’s rights than has Western Civilization and thus fools like Madonna wearing “pussy hats” to signal a faux resistance to Trump, who is at present the greatest guarantor of what is left of Western freedom, function as fools of the first dimension), impartial scrutiny of all existence, and the capacity to apologize for its wrongdoings such as no other civilization ever has. And yet a colossal fool like Francis (be wary, all, of any Latin America Leftist) is out there defending Islam, the most horrible excuse for a major religion of all time, all the while excoriating, in “full Obama mode,” the very civilization, Western Civilization, which is responsible for more positive developments, easily so—no contest—than any other civilization in history.
Perhaps mankind has a suicidal instinct. If the case, there exists no better example EVER than the way fools like Pope Francis and Bernie Sanders (be assured everyone of sense and knowledge that it’s a long list of fools in the West in our time, Western leaders like Merkel and Macron also come to mind here to prove this thesis) are, in effect, participating in the process of killing the goose which has laid the golden egg.
The “goose” of course is Western Civilization and the golden egg is a “combo” of democracy, capitalism (not to be confused with crony capitalism which Leftists invariably mistake for the “real thing”), a proper moral code, and a decent legal system (not one of these four exists in the Islamic world to this day and this speaks volumes, but I digress).
Francis surely doesn’t comprehend virtually any of this. Bernie doesn’t either. Western elites en masse in the media, academia and the political realm also do not. Most ominous for the survival of liberty and the “best of the West” is that one of the two major political parties in the most powerful country on earth, America, i.e., the Democratic Party, has effectively lost its collective mind. Well, again it can be very convincingly argued that the enemy within, e.g., Pope Francis, is actually more deadly to a civilization than the enemy without, e.g., Islam.
Sorry to go on so long, mortimer, but my blood was up and I am overdue for a beer. So, so long for now.
gravenimage says
Fine post.
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
A very depressing post…
The problem is, it’s 100% accurate.
The thing that gets me is that Pres. Trump wants to help ALL Americans by “Keeping America Great”, even the ones who HATE him.
Yes, time for a beer….or two…
Wellington says
Or three, James. Or even three.
RichardL says
How about throwing every member of RICE in prison?
mortimer says
That is the face of a ‘hardcore extremist’.
Bob Thompson says
The authorities should contract with Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, David Woods, Bill Warner and other informed individuals, to create a vetting process for potential INS gatekeepers and TSA agents.
Bob Thompson says
WHAT WAS I THINKING????
The authorities should shut down ALL immigration until we figure out what the hell is going on.
Until the entire country realizes what we here already know!!!
elee says
I sure hope American security and intelligence agencies know a lot more about taqiyya and tawriyah than then let on.
elee says
…..than they let on……
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
PHOENIX – How did a man who is accused of being an Al-Qaeda hit squad leader in 2006 live legally in the valley for more than a decade?
Oh this one is easy: Diversity.
Giacomo Latta says
Also, numbers.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Someone must have had him on their radar.
Aren’t they supposed to cross check anyone who worships the mass murderer who called for the subjugation and/or death of non-believers?