During his appearance with the other Democratic candidates in South Carolina, Bernie Sanders was asked if he would “move the American Embassy back to Tel Aviv from Jerusalem”; he did not find that an outrageous idea. In fact, he said he would think about it, that it would be “under consideration.” Those who know that among Sanders’ most enthusiastic supporters are Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and Linda Sarsour, that Sanders refuses – and has always refused – to attend a meeting of AIPAC, an organization which he regards as suffused with “bigotry,” and that he has repeatedly called Prime Minister Netanyahu a “racist” were not surprised. In Israel, Foreign Minister Yisrael Katz expressed the horror that many, in Israel, America, and around the world, felt at Sanders’ remark.
The story is here:
Israeli Foreign Minister Yisrael Katz denounced US presidential candidate Bernie Sanders on Wednesday [February 26]for what he described as a “horrifying” comment made by the Vermont senator at the Democratic debate in South Carolina the previous night.
Asked by a moderator whether, as president, he would move the US Embassy in Israel back to Tel Aviv from Jerusalem, Sanders replied noncommittally, but noted it would “be under consideration.”
“I’m very proud of being Jewish,” Sanders went on to say. “I actually lived in Israel for some months. But what I happen to believe is that right now, sadly, tragically, in Israel, through Bibi Netanyahu, you have a reactionary racist who is now running that country.”
Sanders’ statement came only two days after he announced he would not attend the upcoming annual American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) conference in Washington, DC, accusing the lobby group of providing a platform for “leaders who express bigotry and oppose basic Palestinian rights.”
In an Army Radio interview on Wednesday, Katz said, “The remark by Sanders, who is of Jewish background, is his second against the State of Israel on topics that are at the core of Jewish belief, Jewish history and Israel’s security” — a reference to a declaration by Sanders at a J Street conference last fall that he would condition US military aid to Israel.
“The last time he talked about Gaza — without understanding at all the reality and the threat and the rockets and everything we face as those who are being attacked by radical Islam and defending ourselves,” Katz recalled. “He in effect wanted to deny us the right to self-defense.”
“And now, Jerusalem,” the Israeli foreign minister — a veteran member of the ruling Likud party — continued. “There is no Jew who hasn’t dreamed of Jerusalem for thousands of years, to return, and we returned and I think President [Donald] Trump did an important thing, without connection to internal disagreements within the US. He recognized the reality that Jerusalem is the capital of the Jewish people, the capital of the State of Israel.”
“Now, in the new peace plan, the deal of the century, he recognizes Jerusalem in its entirety as Israel’s capital,” Katz added. “And we will stick to that and insist on that, and, of course, act to persuade [people] in the US regarding those things. And whoever comes out against that — naturally, people who very much support Israel will not tend to support him.”
Sanders likes to tell the world, even as – or especially as – he denounces Israel and its leadership (that “reactionary racist” Prime Minister Netanyahu) that he is “proud of being Jewish,” and furthermore, he once spent a few months living in Israel as a young man. This is supposed to shield him from criticism of his clear antipathy toward Israel, an antipathy which is likely based on his ignorance. He may indeed be “proud of being Jewish,” but a little less emphasis on that pride, and a little more attention on his part to actually learning about the history of the Jews, and their connection to the Land of Israel that Sanders appears not to comprehend, would be welcome. It would also be useful if Sanders would learn about the history of the Arab wars against the Jewish state, and the Islamic basis for that hostility.
As to Jerusalem, does Sanders think that the Jewish claim to the city is no greater than that of the “Palestinians”? Jerusalem is mentioned 669 times in the Hebrew Bible, and not once in the Qur’an. Jerusalem has been at the center of Jewish life and longing for several thousand years. “If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget my cunning”(Psalm 137:5), and for mourners throughout the period of sitting Shiva to be comforted with the phrase “May The Omnipresent (One) comfort you among the mourners of Zion and Jerusalem.”
It is not the entire city of Jerusalem that is holy to Muslims, but a particular site in that city – the Temple Mount, where the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock are situated. In the Qur’an, Muhammad is described as going from the Great Mosque in Mecca to “the farthest mosque” (al-masjid al-aqsa), on his strange winged creature Buraq, where he tethered him,and then ascended, with the angel Gabriel, up through the seven stages of Heaven, before returning to earth, all in a 24-hour period. The place of the “farthest mosque” was assigned by the Muslims to the Temple Mount precisely because it is the holiest place for the Jews. There was no mosque in Jerusalem until long after Muhammad’s death; it is an act of faith, not a dictate of history, that nonetheless places the “Farthest Mosque”on the Temple Mount. By claiming the Temple Mount as the site of the “farthest mosque” where Muhammad landed when he arrived from Mecca, and from which he then ascended into Heaven, the Muslims were deliberately appropriating that holiest Jewish site for themselves.
The claims of the Jews to Jerusalem is based on thousands of years of recorded history. You do not have to be Jewish to learn about, and believe in, that history. It’s a matter of record. But the claims of the Muslims to Jerusalem are based not on history but on belief. The Muslim claim to Jerusalem is based on a story in the Qur’an about Muhammad, who supposedly flies on a strange winged creature, from Mecca to the “farthest mosque’ and then accompanied by Gabriel, ascends up into the Seventh Heaven and back, all within 24 hours.
One claim to Jerusalem — that of the Jews — is based on history. The other claim – that of the Muslims – is based on a desire to appropriate part of that same history. It is one more example of how Muslims have appropriated the holy sites of others. Think, for example, of how many of Hinduism’s most important temples were destroyed, and at the very same spot, mosques – making use of the building material of the ruined temples — were built, as the Babri Masjid was built over the site where the Hindu God Rama was said to have been born, and where a Hindu temple existed before the Muslims destroyed it. Think, too, of how many Christian churches were turned into mosques – the most famous such transformation was that of the Church of John the Baptist which was turned into a celebrated Umayyad Mosque.
This information about the comparative significance of Jerusalem to Jews and to Muslims might make Sanders a bit more understanding of why moving the American Embassy to Jerusalem, which has been regarded by Jews as the center of their political and religious life since the 10th century B.C.E., that is, for 3000 years, made sense. He need only take the time for a few days of sustained study of Jerusalem’s — and Israel’s — history. When the Trump Administration moved the American Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, it finally did what the last three presidents – Obama, G. W. Bush, and Clinton – had all promised to do, but were too fearful of offending the Arabs that they never got around to fulfilling that promise. Trump, on the other hand, did.
Moving the Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem makes moral, historical, and political sense. It makes moral sense because it recognizes, at long last, the central role of Jerusalem in Jewish history, and does not make a specious equivalence between the profound claim of the Jews, based on that history, and the claim of the “Palestinians” which originates in the Muslim desire to appropriate the holy sites of other faiths. It makes historical sense because no other people have claimed Jerusalem as their capital. No other people can claim a 3000-year attachment to, and presence in the city. The Arabs turn toward Mecca, not Jerusalem, when they prostrate themselves in prayer. Their holy cities are Mecca and Medina, with Jerusalem a very distant third. No Arab leader or dignitary — save Sadat when he addressed the Knesset — has visited Jerusalem since King Abdullah of Jordan, who was assassinated there in 1951. That is some indication of how little importance has actually been given to the Old City of Jerusalem, where Temple Mount is located, by the Muslim Arabs. But in 1967, when Israel captured the Old City, and East Jerusalem, and suddenly all of Jerusalem was in the hands of Jews, the city suddenly Jerusalem became very precious to the Muslim Palestinians, for whom the city had become their own “eternal capital.”
Although the Palestinians threatened that if Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem all hell would break lose, nothing much happened. A handful of very brief protests in the streets of Arab capitals. No cutting off of diplomatic relations. There was, of course, the expected pro-forma condemnation by the Arab League and the O.I.C. (Office of the Islamic Cooperation). Trump’s firmness was enough to discourage the Muslim Arabs from their usual displays of fury; they knew they would get nowhere and might increase his antipathy toward them. Still more disheartening for the Palestinians, the Arab states, having issued those pro forma condemnations of the move, did nothing concrete to support the Palestinians. The other Arabs, especially Egypt and the Gulf Arabs, have shown a growing weariness with the Palestinians; their cause, which was once at the center of Arab concerns, has been pushed to the side. That is entirely understandable, given the many different threats so many Arab states now must deal with, including domestic effect of the civil wars in Libya, Syria, and Yemen, the threats to national security from the Muslim Brotherhood and from remnants of both Al-Qaeda and the Islamic State, and above all, the major danger from Iran, that has made the Gulf Arabs now see Israel as their most important ally against the Islamic Republic.
The deed is done. The Embassy has been functioning smoothly in Jerusalem for almost two years, since May 14, 2018. Guatemala has followed suit. Brazil and Australia have both opened trade offices in Jerusalem, which some believe presages moves of their embassies. Other countries — Honduras, Hungary, Moldova, and Romania – have spoken about moving their embassies. A historic injustice is, little by little, thanks to the Trump Administration’s willingness to act, being rectified.
If Sanders were President, and if he were to put “under consideration” moving the American Embassy back to Tel Aviv, this would have disastrous consequences. It is because the Arabs were convinced that they would get nowhere in persuading Trump to move the Embassy back, that their protests were so feeble. But if a President Sanders says he would be willing to consider moving the Embassy back, that would provide the impetus needed for the Arab street to start protesting, and demanding – with a President Sanders in the White House – that the Embassy be moved back. It is enough for the Palestinians to know that Sanders has shown his antipathy for Israel, so much so that he would even be willing to undo the Embassy move, for them to seize the opportunity and once again explode in protest, this time for an American President likely – he’s not Trump – to be swayed by such demonstrations.
If Sanders were to be willing to “consider” moving the Embassy back, this would signal to all the Israel-haters that their moment had come round again at last, after four years of the most pro-Israel President in American history. Led by the likes of Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and Linda Sarsour, they would organize the BDS-ers and the Muslim American community, and the far-left which is convinced of Israel’s wickedness as a “colonial-settler state,” to go all out to persuade Bernie Sanders to undo the “terrible decision of Donald Trump” and return the Embassy to Tel Aviv. All the “progressives” who have been Sanders’ solid supporters will be for that move. Why would Bernie Sanders let them down?
If a President Sanders were to move the Embassy back to Tel Aviv, the consequences would be severe. It would be a huge diplomatic defeat for the Israelis, devastating to their sense of security, for if even their closest ally, the United States, reneges on a matter that goes to the very heart of their national and religious identity — Jerusalem as the eternal capital of Israel and of the Jewish people — who or what can they count on? It was hard during all those decades that have passed since the Six-Day War to see successive administrations promise to move the embassy and never do so; it would be much worse, having finally achieved that goal, to see it undone by a man who claims to be “proud of being Jewish” but surrounds himself with the “Squad” of Israel-haters.
Meanwhile, the Palestinians will be gleeful at what they will rightly assume is a terrific defeat for the Zionists. If even Israel’s friend, the United States, feels compelled to undo “the great wrong” of the Embassy move, that shows the Palestinians that if they keep refusing to negotiate it is Israel, not the Palestinians, who will be pushed about by a Sanders presidency. For Sanders keeps expressing his sympathy for the Palestinians who, in his view, have never received a fair shake. He has apparently failed to notice all the negotiations arranged by Washington where it was the Palestinians who refused, and refused, and refused, every offer made to them, for 97% of the West Bank, and then for 95% of the West Bank, and now, for a Palestinian state that would have the exact same acreage as the Palestinian territories do today, with some of the territory reassigned to Israel made up for by the two large chunks of Israeli territory on the border with the Sinai that would, as recompense, be given to the Palestinians as part of their state. This move of the Embassy back to Tel Aviv will tell the Palestinians that their strategy of not engaging in substantive negotiations is working; that they must be patient, waiting for the Sanders administration to pressure Israel on the issue of settlements – that is, what they formulaically call “illegal settlements on occupied Palestinian land,” as Sanders and his supporters would have it — and even, one suspects, Sanders might support a modified form of the so-called “Right of Return,” where not five million, but “only” a million or two of the “Palestinians,” would move to the West Bank.
Undoing the Embassy move would be a signal to the rest of the world that even the United States is abandoning Israel’s “right-wing” demands. Those countries which have been on the brink of moving their own embassies to Jerusalem will be stopped cold. Why should Brazil, or Australia, go out on a limb for Israel if even the Americans found it necessary to renege on their Jerusalem move? They cannot be certain why the Americans would do this, but they will assume that economic pressure from the Arabs proved decisive, and they would rather not take the risk of being subject to such pressure themselves. If America moves its Embassy back, that will put an end to any talk from other countries about moving their own embassies to Jerusalem.
In Iowa, Bernie Sanders called Prime Minister Netanyahu a “racist.” He received some criticism for that absurd charge, but instead of dropping the epithet, he doubled down in South Carolina, where he described Netanyahu as a “reactionary racist.” His statement about how he would “consider” moving the Embassy back to Tel Aviv was unexpected. It has already gotten Palestinian hopes up and, among the Israelis, caused a furor, for what Israel’s Foreign Minister Yisrael Katz described as a “horrible” comment.
It would be highly desirable if Sanders would put in the effort to learn much more about the very great significance of Jerusalem to Jews, and the very different significance of that city to Muslims, before making his pronouncements. He needs to read more, study more, to be in a position to judge what his “progressive” supporters tell him. He needs to find out more about the history of Israel, the wars of survival that the Israelis have had to fight, the invention of the Palestinian people, and the way Jihad will, in one form or another, continue to be waged against Israel. There is no “solution” to this, for Jihad has no end until the whole world has succumbed to the rule of Islam, but there is a way to “manage” the situation – a very different way of looking at the matter. If Israel keeps the territories it needs in the West Bank in order to have strategic depth, which will be of critical help in slowing down an invasion from the east, buying time so that Israel’s reservists can be called up, it Indeed will, through deterrence, manage to keep the peace. And in fact, that’s the only sure way to keep the peace between Israel and the Arabs.
don vito says
From the post above”There is no “solution” to this, for Jihad has no end until the whole world has succumbed to the rule of Islam”, endless wars for allah.
Boromir's Horn says
This man is dangerous. And it’s not because of his half baked ideas of utopia. It’s that his ridiculous ideas are resonating with the youth. They want a revolution, They want to overthrow the status quo. The irony is Trump is already doing that and they’re too stupid to realize it.
Terry Gain says
The miseducation of America’s youth is appalling and alarming. A presidential election pitting the insane utopian communist against the ultimate capitalist showman may be therapeutic.
Boromir's Horn says
Hope you’re right,
but this we can be sure of:
one man’s therapy will be another man’s torture
E T says
Perhaps Bernie will close all the Universities like his friend Castro did in Cuba in 1968.
gravenimage says
He won’t do that, but just because most of them support him.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
“I’m very proud of being Jewish,” Sanders went on to say.
Yeah yeah yeah. He’s very proud to be an American, too.
It’s holier-than-thou factless rejectionism that’s resonating with our young people. The sanctity it brings absolves from having to deal with reality. You know reality, facts and stuff like that.
Martyman39 says
When he states that he spent some months in Israel, he fails to mention that much of that time was spent on a kibbutz where he was asked to leave because he was “too lazy”.
jca reid says
Ridiculous! The ONLY DEMOCRACY in the Middle East & it’s getting picked on by the Yankee Democrats. No Jews/Christians/ Atheists etc. permitted to sit in Muslim “Parliaments”, they can barely exist in the surrounding countries. Really can’t believe supposedly intelligent Westerners can’t see the deliberate & cynical mess that Muslims are inflicting on their OWN countries & exporting it to the WEST & our “Leaders” are in collusion.
Roland says
Sorry, High, this “proud” Jew will never grow up. He never reads. He has no Jewish grandchildren. Trump has three. That’s crazy.
Phil says
Hugh, it’s BC, not BCE. For one who seems so well versed in the Bible, your denial of Christ is a slap in the face.
Roland says
BCE can mean Before the Christian Era as well as Before the Common Era. Not too offensive.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
In fact, I almost always use B.C. I don’t know why I didn’t above. But I don’t object to BCE being used by those who prefer it. BCE started to be used after my time.
I do object, however, to A.H.
mortimer says
Many academics (especially archeologists) use BCE.
Wellington says
I was an academic, mortimer, for many years and I told my students they could use either BC/AD or BCE/CE but that I would use BC/AD, even though an agnostic, because it was becoming politically incorrect to do so and I do so enjoy annoying the politically correct crowd who almost always can be found on the Left side of the political spectrum. I mean why miss such an opportunity?
mortimer says
Response to Wellington: I agree that Sanders is the tip … communism with ‘Uncle’ Bernie.
However, his Millenials and Gen-Z followers see him as the Pied Piper who will lead their children’s crusade to the promised land of socialism over the bodies of the older generations whom they hate with barely concealed rage. That rage emerges from time to time.
There seems to be an almost total disconnect between the Millenials and Gen-Z and Western civilization. The brainwashing of Marxist educators over the last five or six decades has had a very destructive effect on culture adherence.
The youth of today are for the most part devoid of allegiance to any philosophy but Globalism and ecology. They feel that any dirty trick that advances their causes is fair game.
Zuckerberg is a perfect example of their shallow philosophies.
Wellington says
Completely agree, mortimer. The rot started in the 1960’s and has reached “frutiion” in the last decade or so. The youth of America have not been educated, they have been indoctrinated. Most of the indoctrinators come from my generation, the baby boom generation, many of whom learned nothing from what the 1960’s spawned and who have been in charge of education in America for quite some time now.
Liberty in America is most surely in jeopardy because without wisdom, proper knowledge, common sense and moral intelligence, liberty cannot possibly survive. So many of today’s American youth are devoid of all four of these necessary requirements.
Things are looking rather bleak but there is no sense in giving up. Besides, man has a way of muddling through stupidity, invariably accompanied by much tragedy and crime, and thereafter temporarily creating more stable societies only to have the process repeated again and again, thus tending to prove the validity of Polybius’ cyclical view of history.
LR says
Yep. Most of the Bernie afficianados I know are baby boomers, or Generation X. It’s big ‘Bernie country’ where I live. Bernie/Dem supporters have been ‘freaking out’ since Trump was elected. Anybody but Trump.
I have a good friend who is Jewish, and has accused Israel of being ‘genocidal’, and an ‘apartheid’ state.
It’s bizzarro world.
LR says
…”I do so enjoy annoying the politically correct crowd”…
Well, as we know these days that it is really easy to do.
If one wants to irritate a whole bunch of PC types at once – Just put on a MAGA hat, and walk through a major East Coast, or West coast college/uni.
Have fun!
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
I do object, however, to A.H.
AH?
Hugh Fitzgerald says
Anno Hegirae or Anno Hijra. 622 A.D.
mortimer says
There he goes again … waffling and pontificating about something that he has not studied nor understood. When Sanders says, ‘I’ll think about it’, he actually means ‘I WON’T think about it any more than I have up till now. Matters of religion don’t interest me in the slightest. I’m a non-religious, secular guy. Boring.’
Shallow Bernie is a fervid communist with no more than a passing interest in religion and with no respect for its significance in the lives of adherents. Judaism is welded to Jerusalem. Jerusalem is as important a religious and national symbol to Jews as Mecca is to Muslims… perhaps even moreso.
The Pally interest in Jerusalem is the old story of THE DOG IN THE MANGER. Jerusalem has never been of interest to Muslims unless some other group of people wanted it, such as the Crusaders. Pallies want Jerusalem so as to deny its use by Jews, even though Jerusalem is one of the focuses of Jewish culture throughout the millennia. To make another comparison, Roman Catholics see Rome as the ‘capital’ of the Papacy and the RCC. It would be unthinkable for Roman Catholics to be kicked out of Rome.
Sanders wants to peal back the things that make Israel a Jewish homeland, particularly Jerusalem, Judea and secure, defensible borders.
I doubt he has even bothered to inform himself about the historical and legal bases of the Jewish state, but it spite of his shallowness in the matter, he feels free to pontificate.
James Lincoln says
mortimer,
I make every attempt to conduct my life based upon factual, evidence based logic.
Physicians, engineers , etc., could not function effectively any other way.
Bernie Sanders does not even attempt to do this.
How can he live with himself?
LR says
It’s easy to live with oneself when one thinks they are right, whether or not they are.
I know at least one retired Physician who is in the ‘anyone but Trump’ camp. Bloomberg, whatever will do. I’ll bet there are many Physicians around here like that.
FYI says
You know what is horrifying?
A Socialist taking 3 private Jets to fly 95 miles miles from Charleston to Myrtle Beach.
{that is according to the American Mirror 28 Feb 2020}
“Three quarks for muster mark”?:how about 3 Gulfstreams for Comrade Sanders.
Of course the communists and Lefties always did love to lead the high life:Champagne Socialists they are called {or as the poor might say “How the other half live”}
Complaining about Capitalism never prevents Lefties from indulging in the fruits of capitalism,like those Soviet Party bosses with their private dachas hidden away from public scrutiny.
Why not go by car like the Proletariat ,Comrade Sanders?
Share the experience of the Ordinary Folk who don’t have the luxury of flying around on environmentally unfriendly private Jets.
And what about the environment and all that concern about climate change?
Let’s not forget the Lefty Social Justice warrior millionaires and billionaires:but they can afford to be “woke” as they fly around in their Jets desperately concerned about population control.
wpm says
He owns three homes each valued over 500 k a piece(in areas of New England where 500k buys a lot of home) spread the wealth Sanders just do not touch my stack jack.
James Lincoln says
wpm,
Yes, he should sell all 3 homes and send all profits to the IRS.
And then move into a low rent apartment…
Wellington says
Bolshevik Bernie is just the tip of the iceberg, only the part that is clearly showing. The iceberg in all its putrid depth is the Democratic Party and the multitude of ignoramuses supporting it.
mortimer says
Yes … Sanders is the ‘tip of the iceberg’. Another part of the same ‘iceberg’ is Antifa, the masked vigilantes who will be the future guards in the Gulag they are ghoulishly preparing for non-Bolsheviks and conservatives.
mortimer says
To look at Sanders with ‘The Squad’ is to look at the Red-Green Axis of Evil … the unholy alliance between totalitarian communism and supremacist Islam.
James Lincoln says
Spot on, mortimer.
Frances Weingarten says
Bernie Sanders has shown us enough times that he is not in the least knowledgeable about Israel and Israelis! There is really no further reason to communicate with him as his views and those of Israelis are counter productive! He is a socialist (whatever that might mean to him!) and his beliefs and ours don’t at all connect! He’s not a person whose presence might be welcome as he has a tendency to behave in a very beligerent manner when what he says hasn’t been accepted! We and Bernie should defiitely part company!
gravenimage says
I think what’s wrong with Sanders is worse than just ignorance.
E T says
Heaven forbid that I should use these words GI but me too.
Walter Sieruk says
To quote the first part of this jihadwatch article which is “During his appearance with the other Democratic candidates in South Carolina, Bernie Sanders was asked if he would “move the American Embassy back to Tel Aviv from Jerusalem”; he did not find that an outrageous idea. In fact, he said he would think about it, that it would be “under consideration.”
In other words Sanders must feel that moving the US embassy back to Tel Aviv is a good idea , maybe even even a great idea.
This is a is a further example of the phenomena that is known as the “Red /Green alliance”
For the Communists don’t believe in God and likewise the Bible. the Muslim do believe in the god of the Qu r’ran but not really in the God of the Bible and only give lip serves about have “Respect for the Bible.” but only as long is at fits with the Qu ‘ran and their Islamic agenda .
For if a person reads the Bible he or she will see that God had given all land that now composes the State of Israel, including all of Jerusalem, to the Jewish people. This may be found in the Bible, as seen in, for example, Genesis 28:13-15. 35:10-12. Deuteronomy 32:48,49. Psalm 105:7-11. 135:4. In other words the Jews have all this land , including the whole of Jerusalem ,by Divine Right.
In addition, that Sanders would take the idea of moving the American embassy back to Tel Aviv “under consideration” is a sign of a further policy of appeasement the Sanders will if President , cave in to the powers of Islam in many other times with other appeasement polices to the followers of Islam is this Red/Green alliance.
mortimer says
Sanders has not discovered yet that Muslims don’t want to compromise on Allah’s decrees. They consider Jerusalem and Israel eternal parts of Dar al Islam and they will die to evict Jews and Christians from what they consider to be Lower Syria.
For centuries, the capital of Islam was DAMASCUS (it was never Jerusalem).
The Pallies are so delusional, they cannot admit even the existence of the various Jewish kingdoms in Israel and Judea.
At the basis of the Pally movement is the hidden desire for a resuscitated caliphate in Damascus.
Rarely says
Perhaps it would be nice if one or two of Bernie’s detractors, who are so emphatic about his ignorance, would care to explain the distinction between Communism and Socialism — words that seem to be considered synonymous all too often.
BTW I sense that Bernie is a fool and a little bit nuts but that may only be because I disagree with his stand on many issues.
Wellington says
Socialism, Rarely, is Communism Light. Both involve government everywhere and a political police, with freedom absent—and prosperity too. Only the degree of this rot is a variable.
There. Such is the “distinction” that you wanted clarified.
E T says
It is like pot and coke, but we all know one does not lead to another right?
Infidel says
Socialism is Communism minus the genocide. As an example, India was a socialist country under its former governments
Infidel says
Embassies are interface offices b/w the governments of 2 countries, which is the reason that they’re always located in the capital of the host country. If the US moves the embassy back out of Jerusalem, then Israel should respond by moving their embassy out of DC to, let’s say, Palm Beach, so that their officials can lobby Trump’s successor allies after Bernie becomes president
Otherwise, just like the Palis claim Jerusalem, Pakistan could claim Delhi on the grounds that it was the capital of the sultanates as well as the Mughal empire after a while. In which case, Bernie could move the US embassy to India out of Delhi to some place like Kerala, whose people are typically on the same page as Bernie on both Islam and communism
gravenimage says
Bernie Sanders’ “Horrifying” Comment On Jerusalem
………………….
God, I hope this creep is not elected in November.
somehistory says
Even if sanders read the entire Hebrew Bible, and even if he included the accounts of Jesus and His disciples in their travels to Jerusalem and the sacrifices to God there; and even if he read the entire account of the history of the Jews written by those who lived then and wrote of what they knew…even then, he would not acknowledge the importance of Jerusalem to the Jews. Even then.
And, I have to disagree with this “it is an act of faith, not a dictate of history, that nonetheless places the “Farthest Mosque”on the Temple Mount.”
It is not “an act of faith” on the part of moslims. It’s two things: lust for being the most important, wanting what others have; and demonic inspiration to create hurt and trouble for others.
If faith was what moslims have, they would exhibit it; instead they exhibit the desire to hurt others, to rape and murder for a fake ‘god’ who is incapable of protecting himself, his ‘name’ and reputation of being so powerful. Supposedly, their fake ‘god’ is “merciful.” But mercy is never shown by moslims, not even to members of their family. Their fake ‘god’ is supposed to be so powerful…but he needs moslims to do his fighting for him. Their fake ‘god’ cannot even protect them from puny humans or tiny viruses…as they claim he is able to do.
It’s just that they cannot see themselves as not being on the top of the heap…all attention being on them, owning everything, and are being inspired by satan the devil, who is out to “steal, kill, and destroy,” in order to get everything.
Ginger Flowers says
Your insight into their motivation rings true with me.
Mike says
Bernie , can we have free mosques for everyone , too ? And Open Borders in Mecca ?
AnneM04031959 says
Well Bernie is guaranteeing a future Trump second term.
gravenimage says
Hope so.
LR says
If Bernie gets the nomination, and if people want to stop him getting in office, they better come out in droves, make a lot of fuss about what his policies would mean, and super try to make sure that doesn’t happen.
LR says
“Well Bernie is guaranteeing a future Trump second term.”
I don’t assume that for one minute.