This piety endangers all the people with whom these mosquegoers come into contact.
“‘We don’t believe in corona, we believe in Allah’: In Pak, people continue praying in mosques,” AFP, March 28, 2020 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Islamabad, March 28: Worshippers crowded into mosques in Pakistan on Friday, defying warnings about the fast-spreading coronavirus and fuelling fears of a public health crisis in the impoverished country.
In contrast to many other Muslim countries, Pakistani clerics and government officials have refused to close mosques attended by millions each week, where hugs and handshakes are common.
The country’s leading religious scholars have only advised that the old and sick avoid prayers and instructed clerics to keep sermons brief.
“We don’t believe in coronavirus, we believe in Allah. Whatever happens, it happens from Allah,” said Altaf Khan, as worshippers wearing masks arrived for Friday prayers in the capital Islamabad.
Tiktok videos garnering hundreds of thousands of likes on social media in Pakistan have called for Muslims to attend mosques despite public health warnings.
“Most of the people are terrified,” said Islamabad resident Syed Ashfaq Ahmed after visiting a mosque this week.
“They went to the mosque to seek help from Allah.”
Pakistan has so far declared 1,235 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and nine deaths but there are fears that limited testing is understating the true scale of the outbreak which has infected more than 530,000 people globally.
The majority of its early cases have been directly linked to pilgrims returning from Iran, where for weeks authorities refused to close its shrines as the virus spread, exposing possibly tens of thousands of people….
Saudi Arabia has halted pilgrimages and closed mosques, while scholars in Egypt have issued a fatwa permitting the banning of public prayers to help contain the virus outbreak.
Turkey has shut mosques to mass gatherings while Muslim organisations in Indonesia called for Friday prayers to be carried out at home — though many ignored the advice.
Muslims turned out as normal in Afghanistan’s capital Kabul, however, where mosques were packed and prayer leaders called on their congregations to be brave.
“Allah will protect Muslims from disasters from the coronavirus,” a prayer leader told a crowded mosque in the city….
But Prime Minister Imran Khan has repeatedly refused to interfere in the issue of shutting mosques or even order a country-wide lockdown, citing the economic damage that could be unleashed.
“Religion is always the weakest link of the state institutions. The government fears the reaction from the clergy,” said Amir Rana, director for the Pakistan Institute for Peace Studies.
“The clergy has the ability to challenge their religious credentials and cause political damage.”…
mortimer says
But the coronavirus ‘believes’ in you … and is coming to Pakistanis who don’t maintain their physical distance… hard to do in burgeoning Pakistan.
Pakistan is so overpopulated and overcrowded that a huge increase in corona infections is likely.
Jon Sobieski says
It’s a good thing for infidels. Let the muslims believe in Allah.
Boromir's Horn says
Virus? Virus?? We don’t believe in no stinking Virus!
sweetolbob says
I believe you mispronounced the name of the muslims made-up deity.
It should be “Allagh (P’tooie)” ! Clears the throat and gets rid of that nasty gob of flem.
gravenimage says
So true, Mortimer.
Arthur says
Should be we worried if they die?
william carr says
Some call it faith. I call it dumb as a stump
mortimer says
Pakistan’s PM is not showing leadership to defend the health of the people. He is unworthy of his office.
PRCS says
As you note, with Pakistan being so overpopulated and overcrowded, maybe he he sees the pandemic as Allah’s plan to reduce the population.
Umaid V Gupta says
Allah is great and works in mysterious ways. To know Allah’s will you have to know how to read his signs.
Pakistan has just received over 600 million dollars from China to fight Corona.
But since dealing with a pandemic and viruses is nothing for Allah both the PM and Army have the opportunity to carry out their true purpose and to live their destiny.
The signs for Ghazwa e Hind are in the sky.
If corona kills a million people in Pakistan then there would have been a million Shaheeds. This is a small price to carry out Allah’s will.
Millions dead will also likely mean millions of dollars from the world.
Umaid V Gupta says
* if corona killed a million people in Pakistan then there will be a million Shaheeds.
revereridesagain says
What is that saying along the lines of, if your enemy is engaged in cutting his own throat don’t interrupt him? Of course the problem is that these foolish adults will spread the virus to defenseless children and others, both those who are stuck in the Muslim world and who have been invaded by it. At least some precautions are being taken in a few Islamic countries but Pakistan is hopeless.
I may be wrong but I have the impression that in major epidemics of times past devout people of other faiths at least had the sense to stay away from crowds.
mortimer says
The Islamists are indeed cutting their own throats by adhering to this superstitious, obscurantist, 7th century Death Cult which teaches that CAMEL URINE is good for you health and that cousin marriage is just fine.
In past epidemics, many people fled to the countryside. Pakistanis are trapped in their overcrowded cities surrounded by ignorant mullahs who refuse to close the mosques to save lives. They will be blamed in the coming death toll in Pakistan.
sweetolbob says
mortimer:
I can’t believe that any muslim mulla, or moulda, or what the hell ever, will ever be blamed for anything by the brain washed, head banging, muslim faithful.
All it takes to shift the blame is one spittle-coated, bearded, nightgown wearing, radical, death-to-infidels, nut to preach that it is Allagh’s (P’tooie) will.
Phil Copson says
“…The Islamists are indeed cutting their own throats by adhering to this superstitious, obscurantist, 7th century Death Cult which teaches that CAMEL URINE is good for you health and that cousin marriage is just fine….”
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The spread of disease through the insanitary toilet practices prevalent in Middle Eastern countries was widely publicised in an early US public-information release dating from 1959 and evidently aimed at teenagers:
Composed by 17-year old Chan Romero and disguised as an excellent rock’n’roll record under the title of “The Hippy-Zippy-Sheikh”, it’s blunt message: “You shake it to the left – You shake it to the right – You do the Zippy-Zippy-Sheikh-Shake with all of your might…..” was also distributed by The Beatles and The Swinging Blue Jeans. The message was reinforced some years later by the Georgia Satellites, though sadly with little effect on the sales of toilet-paper in Pakistan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69UMdyu30qQ
ELI says
“I may be wrong but I have the impression that in major epidemics of times past devout people of other faiths at least had the sense to stay away from crowds.”
Not really, it’s just not reported on jihadwatch
https://globalnews.ca/news/6735471/pastor-sunday-service-coronavirus/
https://www.jta.org/2020/03/18/israel/were-not-scared-some-haredi-orthodox-jews-in-israel-are-ignoring-coronavirus-social-distancing-rules
The idea being that only Muslims engage in such-behavior which is absurb but easily believed by many jihadwatcher.
gravenimage says
The foolish Infidel behavior ELI cites come from a single church and a small Jewish sect.
This is idiocy, no doubt, but how does it compare to *millions* of Muslims in Pakistan flouting common sense? The Coronavirus just spread to Gaza from two Muslims returning from Pakistan.
Since arriving here a few weeks ago, ELI has not said a single thing against Jihad terror. He either doesn’t care about it, or–far more likely–approves.
b.a. freeman says
“The idea being that only Muslims engage in such-behavior which is absurb but easily believed by many jihadwatcher.”
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of course, ELI, people of every religion will still tend to congregate to worship, so believing that only muslims do that is indeed absurD. however, i fail to see any claims in either the article or in earlier comments that only muslims are, or will be, doing that. which blog are U reading? and BTW, in case U hadn’t figured it out by now, the JW site is for news of the jihad ignored by leftist propagandists; since muslims are the only religion who can truly claim that mass murder, rape, theft, and other criminal and genocidal behavior are justified by their scriptures, there isn’t much discussion of similar hindu, jewish, or buddhist claims … because there are none, since none of any other religion’s scriptures orders such criminal behavior. if U would like, i’m sure that there are those here who can quote such scriptures from the quran and the kutub alsittah.
for starters, try quran 9:5:
… when the sacred months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the
islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the mushrikun wherever you
find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them
each and every ambush. but if they repent and perform as-salat, and
give zakat, then leave their way free …
here “mushrikun” means polytheist, which is what muhammed and his sock puppet god believed christians were, since neither understood the concept of the trinity; as-salat is islamic prayer; zakat is alms – which go *O*N*L*Y* to muslims, and never to non-muslims. this is allah speaking, who is muhammed’s sock puppet himself, saying that when the *PAGAN* holy months are over (rather inconsistent, wouldn’t U say?), the muslims should incessantly hunt down and kill non-muslims, until the latter give up and convert (and that *can* be “fake” conversion; so long as they *pretend* to be good muslims and follow all the rules, *they* *don’t* *care* … and their *children* will become *real* muslims). the “traditions” of muhammed – the kutub alsittah, or 6 “authentic” collections of ahadith – repeat stories of muhammed ordering that all apostates be murdered. here are 3 found in sahih al bukhari, the most reliable (sahih) of the kutub al sittah:
sahih al bukhari 9:84:57:
muhammed said, “whoever changes his islamic religion, then kill
him.
sahih al bukhari book 52:260:
muhammed said, “If somebody (a muslim) discards his religion, kill him.”
sahih al bukhari book 83:17:
muhammad said, “the blood of a muslim who confesses that none has
the right to be worshipped but allah and that I am his apostle, cannot
be shed except in three cases: in qisas for murder, a married person
who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from
islam (apostate) and leaves the muslims.”
here “qisas” is blood retaliation for murder (legal in sharia). although the kutub alsittah are not as “holy” as the quran, they are treated as holy, since they are the earliest documents available detailing much of muslim practice not defined by any other source.
of course, U are probably in the position i was in some years ago. although i had studied history in university, and have continuously read history from childhood to the present, i had read nothing of islam, learning only the dates of conquests, various leaders, etc. i am a born-again christian, and i thought that islam was much like mormonism – a follow-after religion that unsuccessfully attempted to incorporate christianity and judaism as a predecessor. and since all religions are alike in seeking after the divine, it *had* to be as innocuous as any other religion, since all are innocuous. before i became a christian, i was an atheist, and had what is probably a very common attitude among leftisth folks: i believed that *ALL* religions were stupid – pap for the masses, teaching the stupid among them to delay gratification in the present life in order to gain rewards in the “coming” life. since i believed that all religions were stupid, and because i had been brought up in a christian family (and trained to be atheist in public indoctrination centers), and thus knew that christianity was stupid, it followed that mormonism and islam (along with hinduism, jain dharma, zoroastrianism, etc.) were also innocuous and stupid. since i only had one life to live, i intended on spending exactly *NONE* of it learning about any religion.
as with anything which has little to no effect on one’s life, one may easily form such an opinion and hold it for decades … exactly because it has no effect on one. i lived decades of my life believing that islam was harmless. when “some people did something” (a unique view of mass murder) on 9/11, i went online and tried to figure out islam. rather than buying a book, i chose to look at what the quran says (at UCLA, UC berkely, or some other branch of the university of california), since it is the analog of the bible (or so i thought). since the “revelations” in the quran as commonly published are *NOT* in chronological order, and have absolutely no context – it *is* just allah talking, after all – i was unable to understand what allah was trying to say, and soon gave up. it wasn’t until years later that i found better explanations of the religion. these explanations all said that islam was evil, which i greatly doubted, so with my new knowledge of islamic scripture, i did some reading. i virtually s**t myself when i realized how poisonous this f***ing death cult is, and my mind was boggled by the fact that *N*O*B*O*D*Y* other than these “far-right islamophobes” ever mentioned the core beliefs of islam. when a u.s. president and his successor both claim that islam is a peaceful religion in the face of claims to the opposite from the “scriptures” of islam itself, it puts a whole new spin on “fake news.”
this begs the question of *WHY* nobody knows anything about islam. people on the left, whether in government, in the legacy media, in social media, in entertainment, or among my friends, are all apparently in the dark about the cult. i already knew that the left had conquered u.s. educational institutions, from pre-K to post-doctorate, and that it did nothing to teach or encourage critical thinking outside laboratories, so it became obvious that, like me, the casual/nominal leftists knew nothing because it didn’t affect them AT ALL one way or the other. letting “refugees” into the country sounds altruistic and good, especially since we are a nation descended from immigrants, so letting in a million or so (potential) thugs every year doesn’t seem dangerous to anybody who doesn’t know about that potential. as a pew forum on religion and public life poll found (released on 2013-04-30), which reported in detail (226 PDF pages) on the attitudes of the ummah, however, roughly 10% of the ummah (sometimes lower, but usually a bit higher, and in places like The Land Of The Pure (pakistan), *much* higher) can be considered pious. this 10% is pious enough to want to die while killing unbelievers, because only by doing so can a believer bypass the judgement and go *directly* to the 72 virigins. if we can count on ~10% of the ummah to seek out death while spreading terror and death among the unbelievers, then the hard-core left (as opposed to the 99.99+ % of nominal leftists) only has to provide cover for them by guilting the electorate into admitting ever more of the ummah. the beauty of the whole thing is that since nobody knows islam, nobody would *ever* suspect the left of perfidy, least of all the nominal left. in the end, when things are so bad that ordinary life becomes perilous, the leftists in government can declare martial law and secretly (under cover of martial law) instantiate a full-on socialist government, perhaps having to assassinate a hundred or so reluctant nominal leftists or adamant non-leftists, followed by the usual roundups and 9 mm. “re-education.”
so why would the left do it *this* way? well, one need only look at their record. other than weimar germany, where virtually everybody in government and academia was already socialist, and in relatively small and weak countries like venezuela, chile, et al., where socialism sounded pretty good to those who weren’t socialists, the left is unable to win at the ballot box. usually, they take power when society is in chaos and they can seize it (russia, china, eastern europe after WWII, vietnam, cambodia, etc.). most of the west has been out of their reach for most of the 20th century (with the notable exceptions listed above), but now, due in part to their seizure of education and its conversion to indoctrination, the entire planet and the whole species is coming within their reach (or so they think). and when they do take over, the socialist paradise will *not* be commie; it will be fascist … just like china is today (yes, it has a “communist” party, but they operate like the italian fascists and german national socialists).
the only thing they seem to have overlooked is the effect of their own brutality. yes, their violence and brutality will likely overwhelm americans – at first. the pious ummah, however, will be unimpressed, since they *want* to die while killing unbelievers (leftists), while the left will want to *live*, to a man. and once the socialists start rounding up and “re-educating” the american ummah, the pious ummah will have no problem opening the eyes of the 90% UN-pious ummah to true islam. guess which side would go down in a (q-t-l) fight (to the death) between these 2 groups?
i suggest that U *NOT* take my word for any of this. start by examining islam; english translations which have been approved by al azhar university in cairo (the unofficial official center of sunni islamic thought); they are available either at your local library, or in thousands of places online. read a few things from “Umdat al-Salik” (“The Reliance of the Traveler and Tools of the Worshipper”). read ibn ishaq’s “Sirat Rasul Allah,” or “The Story of the Apostle of Allah”), the first, and most-respected, biography of muhammed (put together from his own collection of hadith, and preserved by recensions by ibn hisham and al-tabari). in the end, U will find that islam is a death cult welded onto a gangsta culture in which criminal behavior (like raping little yazidi girls) is considered holy. the only god that islam honors is self, and any islamic “culture” is *EXACTLY* the same as ms-13 society, or mafia society (BTW, the ummah occupied sicily for over 250 years … so who do U think taught the mafia their ways?).
or U can take the lazy way out, and not check. that’s what i did for over 10 years after 9/11, and i regret every day that i wasted. if i am allowed to castigate head-in-the-sand americans of the 20th century, who didn’t realize how dangerous fascism, communism, and other varieties of socialism were, then i must humble myself and take the same abuse for *NOT* checking islam in the 21st century. if U think, OTOH, that islam is peaceful, and that i’m just a knuckle-dragging deplorable, then should U not be willing and *READY* to defend the harmless ummah by quoting ahadith and the quran to refute my benighted attacks? good people don’t stand by and let the defenseless suffer!
T.S.Rao says
You are plumb right. Nobody bothers to ask, why with the so called brother hood, no two islamic countries see eye to eye. Look how Pakistan is cozy with Chine, where Muslims are fried by ass everyday. Islam is not a religion. it is something else. Koran a murderous document.
PRCS says
During this global pandemic, others (Christians, Jews, Hindus and maybe others) are, or were, ignoring the warnings.
See links posted above for examples.
ELI says
Yes and recent news suggests that one of the starting points for the spread of the coronavirus was a religious gathering of….Christians. Strange, no mention on jihadwatch.
https://fr.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-bombe-atomique-rassemblement-%C3%A9vang%C3%A9lique-mulhouse-185500117.html?soc_src=community&soc_trk=tw&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvL0xRYkJIVzU2QjE_YW1wPTE&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAH7-LjS5RZ3sUPU1ENBrvbqIDBQlKy7uKsGlsTYnixf9JicWpEsIGB8eR33MKsFClzaXqRg5fdYK7WAawHhLEUF_F_QZte8U0_tt3loZXXzJIQqXQ7oCFL4bd0tv6vCM8Kts3q7LFMu1U14kcjC-mm5Ozw0_G2yB8dLIwnvELoDp
gravenimage says
If this is a reference to the fringe Christian group in South Korea that may have spread the disease there, they had a large religious meeting in mid-February. This was before many people had recognized that the Coronavirus was even a serious threat.
That is *hardly* the case now.
b.a. freeman says
so why do U think mr. trump closed off travel to and from EUrabia? and as far as that goes, people *still* aren’t taking it seriously; home improvement centers are as crowded as rap concerts these days. furthermore, as GI noted, the WHO didn’t declare COVID-19 a pandemic until almost a month later (started 2020-02-17, pandemic declared 2020-03-11)!
people are always foolish when disease is concerned. when one cuts one’s finger, one feels the pain and does something about it immediately. when one is *infected*, OTOH, it takes a while (perhaps 14 days in the case of COVID-19) before one is even aware of the infection. until sick themselves, most people don’t take it to heart. and as i noted above, the *religion* of the people has nothing to do with stupid decisions … except in the case of officials of the *PIOUS* ummah, who have called coronavirus a “soldier of allah,” and who *STILL* tell the pious to ignore the virus. can U name leaders of any other religion who are telling their followers – TODAY – to ignore it?
Umaid V Gupta says
As things stand now please name one Christian, Hindu or Jewish group in the world that is still urging followers to congregate?
Whereas a Christian group in South Korea or.a Hindu group in Kerala may have taken early warnings lightly (given the low density of cases at the time) and inadvertently caused the virus to spread, they have since changed their positions.
Compare this with Pakistani Mullas and leadership on the 30th of March.
I think the point of the Article is not to exempt irrational zealots of different faiths from scathing remarks. But just to point out what Islamic fanaticism is like, how it manifests in politics and how it informs world views within Pakistan.
Cynthia in California says
The (modern) stupidity of Islam never ceases to make me roll my eyes.
In the 14th century, when the Black Death roared out of Central Asia towards the West, towards the Middle East, towards India, and towards China, Islamic physicians used the same principles (if not actually better ones occasionally) to treat victims as did the Chinese and Indians. There were, of course, no treatments then that worked, but basics like avoiding the homes and businesses of known affecteds were universal.
One possible book is that by John Kelly, The Great Mortality.
These Pakistani stupids not only risk their own lives, but of course those of first-, second-, third-, and who knows what other -order contacts they have.
revereridesagain says
John Barry’s book on the 1918 “Spanish Flu” pandemic, “The Great Influenza”, is also interesting – and instructive.
gravenimage says
Yes–both good books, and grimly apt reading for today.
Buraq says
Well, the result will be ‘herd immunity’ in about a year. But the price to be paid for ‘herd immunity’ is a very high death toll of the weak, the old, the young and the sick …….. and the inbred from cousin marriages, popular in Islamic countries. Could result a massive drop in population!
Well, maybe not so bad.
gravenimage says
I’m not going to applaud the deaths of vulnerable people anywhere.
underbed cat says
They are all masked up, prevention just in case. China must have sent them supplies.
gravenimage says
You aren’t wrong:
“China sends medical aid to Pakistan to combat virus outbreak”
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-sends-medical-aid-pakistan-combat-virus-outbreak-69851504
sweetolbob says
Go figure ! China sends all kinds of help to the muslims in Pakistan while fighting their own muslim population. HUH ?
gravenimage says
I think in large part China just doesn’t want a raging epidemic on their border. Makes sense.
underbed cat says
Brokers sold massive amounts of medical supplies from the U.S.? Read a article from Forbes..3/30/2020 this morning ..that seem to explain the added to the problem of a foreign supply chain. maybe we were ready..while citizens in my state mostly unprotected…I noticed very few people 2 or 3 people in large box stores wore masks to protect themselves, and the public, so President Trump was correct, something was happening to supplies, some states/ hospitals had plenty most did not…and American ordinary citizens were unprotected and things were disappearing. The President getting the blame of course….but he stated he noticed the numbers were telling a story and wanted an accounting. The military had to build temporary hospitals those soldiers needed to wear masks, while in NY. I did not notice they had virus protective masks on their faces to stay healthy. Did the military have masks on the ships could they test the crew? So seeing the photo that in Pakistan, there were enough masks to protects the mosque,just in case, seemed strange where are these supplies that the United States could slso use? Who sold them at the highest price? Do churches have masks? Schools have masks? Could critical businesses reopen if we could be also protected? So this photo from Pakistan for this article caught my attention….
gravenimage says
I don’t think there is a conspiracy.
We just have a much greater demand for masks now.
underbed cat says
If you have been viewing videos from China during the covid-19 peak, nearly every citizen walking the streets had masks. The same type of hospital mask, or better, our medical supplies, even over the counter acetaminophen (and many medications) are now manufactured in China. This will change but it will take time. if citizens could have local supplies of mask the risk of spread or becoming infected with covid -19 while shopping for food would be far less.The supply chain in China shows the dangers of turning over our most needed supplies when a global pandemic hits China first. It is changing now, but everyone needs masks, there is a good supply of blue gloves. Now at least the government lifted the rules and ventilators can be sterilized and are going into production. No conspiracy just reality. Hope the medications approved will work for many people to reduce inflammation.
I just found it interesting that mosques have masks in Pakistan……churches do not in U.S.
gravenimage says
underbed cat, I have not found any indication that all Mosques in Pakistan have face masks. Links?
FYI says
“We don’t believe in coronavirus.We believe in allah”
allah:the ARAB god who calls himself “the greatest of all deceivers” koran 3:54
“No calamity befalleth save by allah’s leave”
koran 64:11
So the calamity of coronovirus must come from allah by the koran’s reasoning but of course muslims don’t read the koran.
The god of islam:a god you can trust?
underbed cat says
Better safe than sorry….just in case…if..it is a microscopic non believer. Sneaky stuff.
Gork says
In the scheme of things I would want to worry about, this doesn’t rate very high on my list. If they want to have large gatherings in the name of their religion, let them. If they start dying from the pandemic, well, that’s their problem. We’re in no position to help or stop them from this ill-advised stupidity.
The best thing we can do is to stay out of their country while the pandemic has its way with them.
gravenimage says
They will go on to infect those in surrounding nations like China and India.
Battle says
“We don’t believe in coronavirus.” “We believe in Allah.”
And not arresting or punishing thieves bullies and rapists who kidnap non -Moslem girls, forcibly convert them to Islam, then force marriage upon them, then rape them.
And imprison non-Muslims on lies they blaspheme Islam and never punish the accusee.
And believe in raping non-Muslim women.
And believe in polygamy..
And discriminate against Christians and Hindus in employment. Christians are employed in the sewers.
Christianphobia.
Hinduphobia.
FYI says
Advice from an islamic apologist to deal with coronovirus:just Smile.It helps.
“Prophet muhammed said ‘Even a smile is charity’…
So if you are feeling helpless in the time of coronovirus,just smile. it helps”
dr craig considine{ tweet 26 March}
{So craig’s school of islamic apologetics tells us his “prophet” muhammed, a mass murderer of Jews{Abu Dawud 4390} and the owner,buyer and seller of black African slaves{Sahih muslism 3901}has a solution to all this:smile}
who knew muhammed was such a kind,considerate,tolerant lovely man?
Muhammed :What a mensch!
That’s what the islamic apologists,especially the converts,want you to believe.
And if you were an enslaved African or a Jew about to be murdered by muhammed?
Just smile:it helps.
don vito says
The deen of the moskiteers is a vector, the deen must be sanitized for human use. I suggest the saracens in pakland set off their nuclear warheads (all the warheads), to radiate the deen, some saracens will survive, allah willing.
DHazard says
They are saying Muslims are protected from this virus AT THE SAME TIME Muslims and kafirs are BOTH dying from it. Muslims continue emulating Muhammad, down to his huge missteps in science, morality and common decency. He was an illiterate blah blah blah and so are they.
roberta says
Those muslims that are dying from corona are at fault. (They dont love allah enough.) The imams will pull that old card from their deck to avoid the blame for their stupidity and loss of life.
And the fools will believe them. Again!
sweetolbob says
Roberta:
Perhaps if they banged their heads harder, they would be protected from the Chinavirus.
What the heck ! They should try it and see !
tim gallagher says
Well, Muslims always have their nasty attitude towards non-Muslims, and, in Pakistan, there always seem to be these lynch mobs seeking to murder Christians and other non-Muslims, such as in the case of Asia Bibi, so I’m quite happy to see these ignoramuses shooting themselves in the foot like this, by being so unbelievably stupid in their attitude to the corona virus. That saying that they believe in Allah, not in the virus makes no sense at all. It is beyond stupid. They could believe in both their vile idea of what god is like and this disease. These attitudes are so staggeringly backward.
James Lincoln says
tim, the average IQ in Pakistan is 84.
That may help to explain a lot of these backward attitudes and beliefs.
https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html
tim gallagher says
James, that certainly explains a lot of the behaviours and attitudes that are found amongst the Pakistanis. If the average IQ is that low, then, unfortunately, there is probably not much hope of the place improving. A pretty hopeless situation, that’s for sure. Some of the Muslim attitudes towards the corona virus, in many countries, are staggeringly foolish.
roberta says
And on top of that, stupidity can be bred into a culture, Ive seen it.
The nature vs nurture vs (nature and nurture for pakeez)
tim gallagher says
Your comment is spot on, Roberta.
gravenimage says
Very true, Roberta.
gravenimage says
Pakistan: Muslims crowd into mosques, “We don’t believe in coronavirus, we believe in Allah”
…………..
How much suffering and death will these idiots cause?
Roger Grant says
Maybe they’ll do like the did in Iran. Stand outside the mosque and lick the golden doors to show their faith in Allah. I’m not sure how that was working out for them.
PRCS says
That South Korean Church was aware of the virus on March 1st. Members sprayed salt water into other members’ mouths with a squirt gun (no sterilization between one person’s mouth and the next) because they believed it would kill the virus. 46 of them were infected as a result.
Given the high R0 rate then, gotta wonder how many others were then infected by those 46 folks (or died themselves) afterward.
While slam is an effed up ideology and its followers are by definition stupid, they don’t have a lock on stupidity.
The link above concerns a French congregation.
PRCS says
While Islam
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3075421/coronavirus-salt-water-spray-infects-46-church-goers
CogitoErgoSum says
This is odd. Where is there anything in Christianity that would lead a person to believe that salt water is effective against warding off disease? I can’t find where Jesus ever said such a thing. Now, I could understand if they thought that their faith alone was enough to protect them, but salt water? On the other hand, I could understand Muslims spraying camel urine into their mouth because Muhammad recommended it as a medicine.
underbed cat says
Salt water can be deadly in very high concentration and volume. For me, with a gluten blistering skin disease, condtion the removal of using a salt shaker” added” sprinkles on food ended a blistering skin condition, that only returns if I use it again, was able to get off a potent sulfa drug used for condition. Still can’t eat gluten but skin blister clear and not itchy. Thank God for low salt potato chips with no surface salt visible. So it could be it lowers immunity to viruses, flues or colds as I have noticed when occassionally it is used or eat a salted cracker.
The spray may have been high concentration or contaminated or it was air borne. That is why masks that prevent or lessen virus transmission are so important, such as N-95.
underbed cat says
Well you can’t do this spray into peoples mouth without contamination….very bad idea of saliva…yikes.
PRCS says
Yes.
Yikes!
CogitoErgoSum says
If their religion requires them to huddle together inside a mosque, I say they should do it. I’m going to stay as far away from them as possible though – and when these Muslims get sick, they should go to the mosque to see whether Allah wants them to live or die. They should stay away from any hospitals. Medical facilities are for us Infidels.
sparks says
Darwinism might just solve the muslim threat for us
gravenimage says
The Coronavirus is pretty terrible, but it is not going to wipe out the Muslim world.
Goofy says
Allah knows best and still his followers are absolutely clueless!
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Awww…that is mean. The CoronaVirus believes in Mohammedanism.
Please, keep licking those Shrines, and Mosques. Thank You.
OLD GUY says
WOW I like the idea of muslims testing Allah by gathering together during the C-19 virus. Maybe they are right and will prove the teachings of Muhammad as superior to every other religion.
OTTER says
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/coronavirus-10-deaths-300-hospitalisations-linked-to-tablighi-jamaat-meet/articleshow/74902930.cms
See what’s happening in India. Same sick people.