He is, of course, recommending Sharia as the alternative. And we can all see by how well-run and prosperous Sharia states are. But the advantage that Khamenei has is that when someone in the West points out that Sharia states are human rights basket cases and economic disasters, the one who notices is excoriated as “Islamophobic.” Criticism of Sharia is already immensely stigmatized in the U.S. And so the proponents of Sharia can and do advance their agenda essentially unimpeded.
“Iran’s Khamenei Praises Islamic Response to Coronavirus: Applauds ‘Powerful Hand of the Infallible Imam,’” by Simon Kent, Breitbart, April 9, 2020:
Western civilization is facing decline and fall as it struggles with the Chinese coronavirus pandemic, Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei said on Thursday.
Khamenei made a point of reminding Iranians that the U.S. is the main enemy and mocked Americans who fought over toilet paper at stores and purchased firearms as a sign of Western weakness.
“The problem of corona should not make us ignorant about the plots by our enemies and arrogant powers,” he said.
He lamented that “confiscating other nations’ masks and buying guns” as well as fights over toilet paper are the “logical and natural outcome of the philosophy that governs western civilization,” the offical IRNA news agency reports.
“Confiscating other nations’ masks, emptying shops, fighting over toilet paper and long lines for buying guns during the coronavirus outbreak are the logical and natural outcome of the philosophy that governs western civilization,” Khamenei said in a live televised address which he also relayed on Twitter:
While lamenting the perceived failure of the west to cope in the pandemic, Khamenei congratulated Muslims for their resolve, saying that in the history of humanity, people may rarely witness a situation like today “in which all in human society need a savior.”
He said Islam has the answer to mankind’s search for that savior.
“Today, after experiencing various ideologies from communism to pretentious, western, liberal democracy, mankind does not feel at peace. Mankind is not happy. Few eras in the history of mankind have witnessed such a strong desire for the sublime truth, for a Savior,” he added.
He explained “human wisdom is a great blessing, which can solve many problems but not all of them,” before again pointing to Islamic notions of divinity for inspiration against what is offered by the U.S. and other countries.
The supreme leader went on to allege in some western countries, “the elderly, the disabled and people with major problems are not a priority to receive medical care.”
Khamenei said all of this “is a result and product of the dominance of western culture, which is based on materialism and atheism.”…
Gork says
I’d rather fight over toilet paper than watch my community get sick, and have many die. But to each his own.
mortimer says
MUSLIMS SHOULD NOT USE LESS THAN THREE STONES TO SCRAPE THEIR ANUS … for the complicated details … read following …
TOILET ETIQUETTE FOR MUSLIMS
1 Do’s and Dont’s
1.1 Say a prayer when entering, to ward off jinn and demons
1.2 Remove your rings
1.3 Do not face nor turn your back to the direction of the Ka’aba
1.4 Do not hold nor touch the penis with your right hand
1.5 Do not stand while urinating
1.6 Do not uncover your private parts until after squatting
1.7 Do not soil yourself with urine, this is a major sin
1.8 Do not speak while in the toilet
1.9 Clean yourself with an odd number of stones
1.10 Do not clean yourself with less than three stones
1.11 Do not use dung or bones
1.12 Do not use your right hand
1.13 Wash yourself, once you’re done
1.14 No need to cleanse your anus when done in a river
1.15 Say a prayer when exiting the toilet
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Toilet_Etiquette
mortimer says
Note: Muslims think that JINNS (both male and female) hang out around toilets because the eat the waste.
But … to mock Muslim toilet etiquette would be ‘Islamophobic’.
Ashley says
Goodness! FIFTEEN steps to take a simple crap/piss.
This toilet etiquette must be a real bitch to follow during a bout with diarrhea…
Boromir's Horn says
Well Ashley, in that case, you need a bucket of gravel
Terry Gain says
Wow. So many rules.
I guess with all these rules you shouldn’t conclude a settlement with another lawyer while sitting on the throne. But what if you did? I guess the settlement would be voidable, if only she knew. Is there a limitation. for atonement? And what if the lawyer on the other side was a former nurse? Do the rules still apply?
I know, way too much TMI. But as they say, confession is good for the soul. And they are never wrong. But who are they? I shall look to Allahb for the answers.Not.
revereridesagain says
Eeet ees a holy theeng! Eeet ees a sacred theeng!
There’s nothing quite like watching an entire religion make a fool of itself.
Francis Weber says
What happened to flushing the nostrils 3 times with water to get Satin out?
gravenimage says
Khamenei: “Fighting over toilet paper is the logical outcome of the philosophy that governs Western civilization”
…………………..
Who is fighting over toilet paper? There is a shortage in many places, but that is different.
Pious Muslims, meanwhile, are happy to wipe with rocks. No wonder Iran, with its terrible hygiene, is leading the world in per capita Coronavirus deaths.
Mischief Maker in the Land says
But …but …but “Fighting is prescribed for you”, says the Koran.
mortimer says
If there are no stones or ‘pebbles’, they may wipe with sand or ‘clean dirt’.
FYI says
Question for islamic scholars regarding islamic toilet etiquette…
1}How does allah enter the bathroom given that he has only one foot{..if he has one shin then presumably he has one foot..}
2}How does allah cope in the bathroom with his TWO RIGHT HANDS?
{given rule 1:12 in mortimer’s illuminating list given above}
3}Regarding 1:7 above:It being a major sin to get urine on yourself.
Say,what do you think about muhammed…being constantly covered in semen.
{Sahih Bukhari 232}{Sahih muslim 669}
Aisha said “I used to wash the semen off the clothes of the prophet and even then i used to notice one or more spots on them”
Disgusting:but surely an honor for any muslima to wash the ‘holy’ prophet’s Sacred Underpants.
Westman says
Islam is a skidmark on the Iranian nation and Khamenei is the chief spreader. Don’t let his monologue fool you. It’s the same stuff the Soviets were saying before the fall of the USSR.
Kamemei is frightened, with good reason, that his days are numbered. Unlike the time of Muhammad, today’s Muslims have a window on the rest of the world and Islam, particularly Iran’s Islam and Ayatollah, are found lacking. He’s got the dummies under control, not the thinkers.
J says
Hey that dude actually was right for once mankind does have a savior he called Jesus Christ you idiot LOL
Wellington says
This man is a disgusting asshole. Amazing how Islam elevates people like this wretched man to a position of high status.
And thus again demonstrative of how Islam gets matters, how appropriate, ass-backwards—and replete no less with stones in odd numbers for wiping one’s ass.
Holy Hell, how did this religion ever get traction in the first place? Islam bespeaks, I would contend, to the basest aspects of the human species. And perhaps this is the very reason why Islam has been so successful over the centuries (minus the slaughters aplenty of course), to wit and a la Annie Lennox, a hell of a lot of people want to either engage in abuse or be abused. Islam is ready-made, superlatively so, for this double whammy and bespeaks ill most definitely of our species as a whole that such a miserable excuse for a religion remains a major religion of the world to this very day.
Time once more for a beer, a BLT and a Beethoven symphony, all of which I might add, that not only the Islamic world could have never created but to this very day seeks to prohibit.
I despise Islam. A la Luther at Worms in 1521, I can do no other. Now for that beer.
mortimer says
Agree with Wellington. But not merely a pompous ass, Khameini is a MAJOR CRIMINAL and a THIEF who has an estimated personal wealth of multiple tens of BILLIONS (USD) obtained by robbing his own country. The same goes for members of his family.
“The US Embassy (in Baghdad) … said that forty years into the clerical regime, while many Iranians suffer from poverty and extreme economic conditions, Khamenei owns assets worth an estimated $200 billion.
In a 2013 Reuters investigative report titled, the “Assets of the Ayatollah”, the news agency estimated Khamenei’s wealth at $95 billion.”
https://irannewswire.org/us-embassy-says-khameneis-wealth-worth-200-billion/
andrew mckendrick says
The only comforting thought I get from that information….there is no pockets in a shroud ,and Khameini must be near fitting time.
Michael Copeland says
“The essence of his doctrine was violence and lust: to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature”
– John Quincy Adams, 6th president of the U.S.
Westman says
Notice how the death rate from Covid-19 in Iran is normalizing toward US rates while trenches are loaded with bodies and the not-too-smart congregate. Khamenei is the chief liar for the regime who can’t even control their most ardent followers. Trump was right in ending the false nuclear treaty which was hollow with lies from the beginning.
It appears that Iran can only free itself from Khamenei’s regime through civil war due to the great number of new “true believers” that have been indoctrinated since 1979. Given today’s access to communication, the stark reality of the declining economy, the regime’s incompetence, the wasting of resources in military clandestine operations, and the retarding effects of Islam are clearly shown to every Iranian citizen.
The IRGC is a mercenary army, the SS-like barrier that stands between the thinkers and Khamenei. And, like all mercenary armies, its loyalty is to whoever reliably pays the army. If the citizens or a war choke the goverment’s revenue, the IRGC falls apart.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
Though I have not noticed any ‘fights over toilet paper”in the Western world, were there any they would certainly be preferable to fights among Muslim over who gets to use three, or five, or seven stones.
Wellington says
+1. And demonstrating again that mocking evil is the next best thing to crushing it.
gravenimage says
🙂
CogitoErgoSum says
Maybe we can convince him that it would be the best of both worlds to use sandpaper.
mortimer says
CES, they would be using sandpaper if Mohammed had said so. They may, however, use *sand* for wiping.
Westman says
Such an odd place for calluses.
gravenimage says
Probably not, Westman, given pious Muslims have calluses on their foreheads from banging them on the floor.
Francis Weber says
There have been fights here in Sydney Australia!
CogitoErgoSum says
He doesn’t like atheism, communism, confiscating things or the coronavirus. Sounds more as if he’s talking about China. They are Infidels too – but he needs their help for the time being. Eventually he’ll turn on them too – if his own people don’t turn on him first.
Boromir's Horn says
It’s in our nature to sin. It’s also in our nature to resist and repent, and thus improve ourselves. It’s the summation of these struggles, which side holds sway, that we, at the end of the day are measured. Every sect of society has moved in a forward direction throughout history, except for one, the muslims.
They long for the day to be relevant and in power, like the were back in the 8th century. But that was along time ago.The rest of the world has moved on. Yet there they remain, a backwards and bloodthirsty tribe, banned from a seat at the table.
Rarely says
Another logical outcome of Western civilization’s philosophy is actually USING toilet paper.
gravenimage says
Excellent.
FYI says
Logic?What would a muslim “holy” man know about Logic?
Khamenei subscribes to an ARAB god al lah who admits to being a champion deceiver k3:54 and he follows the sunnah of a polygamous,cross-dressing freak muhammed who admitted to being a false prophet{al tabari 6:111}
His “holy” koran is so replete with errors..scientific,theological,logical,historical,geographical and even in the Arabic grammar..that by allah’s own criterion of koran 4:82,it shows that the koran in its imperfections actually cannot possibly come from God but must come from “other than allah”
So we have a false god,a false prophet,a false scripture, a violent religious cult and the ‘holy’ man of islam is so lacking in Logical reasoning faculties that he cannot{or more likely doesn’t want to}figure it out.
“fighting over toilet paper”:that’s like fighting over the ‘holy’ koran given that it is not worth the paper it is written on.The koran should be used to clean cat litter.
islam and Logic:separated at birth.
Carol says
Well what do you expect from people who are still living in the 7th Century. They listen to a prophet who was mentally ill and expect to be saved by worshiping a fake moon god. prophetofdoom.net
Prophet of Doom is the best-documented, most comprehensive, presentation of Islam’s five oldest and most reliable scriptural sources. Ishaq’s Biography of Muhammad, Tabari’s History of Islam, and Bukhari’s and Muslim’s Hadith, were used to reorder the Qur’an chronologically and to set its surahs into the context of Muhammad’s life. When this evidence is evaluated systematically, the only rational conclusion is that Islam’s lone prophet was a ruthless terrorist, a mass-murderer, a thief, slave trader, rapist and pedophile.
CogitoErgoSum says
Yes, this is the way to put things into their proper context.
Francis Weber says
Did you forget necrophiliac?
James Lincoln says
I guess the take home from this is to never pick up a stone in an islamic country…
commonsense says
…or bring it home in a suitcase. Unless you wash it in boiling water and bleach first.
Dude says
Fighting over vaginas is the logical outcome of the philosophy that governs the desert religious cult.
Whatever is scarce becomes the focus of a society’s foolish existence.
So sad to see the base qualities of man oozing out of to the slime to capture the precious paper or sense pleasure. All the murders, rapes, and slavery for centuries however, completely dwarf the evil of the supermarket battles for Charmin.
Yet they will ridicule, not seeing the monstrosities of their own philosophies and past and present and future.
Simply, very very stupid people – donkees and camels and jackals.
Francis Weber says
Very hard to wipe your ass with a vagina!
tgusa says
When you don’t use toilet paper there will never be a need to fight over toilet paper.
The fact is, toilet paper is bulky and takes up a lot of storage room of limited capacity. There is also a very small profit to be made. The combination of the two make it unfeasible to stock a large amount from a business and supply stand point.
In spite of that I think we are all a helluva lot cleaner than the three stone users.
tgusa says
From what I have seen out there I believe that the toilet paper supply chain issue in the USA has been rectified.
Anjuli Pandavar says
“Today, after experiencing various ideologies from communism to pretentious, western, liberal democracy, mankind does not feel at peace. Mankind is not happy,” says Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
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This leaves me a little confused. Khamenei’s predecessor, the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the then Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, whom the current Supreme Leader presumable respects, famously declared, “Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humour in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious.”
Ayatollah Khamenei’s statement could mean any of a number of things:
1. Misery all round: all of mankind is now Islamic. Manifestly untrue, but then from Khamenei’s recent utterances on the coronavirus pandemic ravaging his country, it isn’t entirely clear that the distinction between truth and untruth has any meaning for poor man, still grieving from the loss of his beloved protégé, Qasim Soleimani. Perhaps that’s it. Nothing serious. It will all be cleared up later.
2. Misery all round: all of mankind is infidel. Manifestly untrue, there are many Shari’a states and even a couple of Islamic republics (although, alas, from the ummah’s point of view, no caliphate). But going by Allah’s track record in protecting the ummah, in particular the Islamic Republic of Iran, a mess, and not to mention the four-year caliphate, obliterated, perhaps all of mankind is infidel. Sayyid Qutb come back; all is forgiven.
3. Ayatollah Khamenei’s statement abrogates that of Ayatollah Khomeini, and Allah did, after all, create man so that he could have fun. Did the pitiful state of the Islamic Republic of Iran after such a spectacular run of calamities finally bring the Ayatollah to an epiphany? His predecessor “Sign of Allah” was wrong? Not very likely. An octogenarian has no business dabbling in kufr.
So I am left none the wiser. Perhaps ELI can throw some light on this.
But the Supreme Leader has touched my heart. As someone not far away from old age myself, I am moved by the Ayatollah’s concern for the elderly during this perilous time for them. Khamenei alleges that in some western countries, “the elderly, the disabled and people with major problems are not a priority to receive medical care.” This might well be true. But I would like him to take comfort from the fact that in the Little Satan, the elderly, the disabled and people with major problems *are* a priority to receive medical care.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/is-humanity-having-an-admirable-moral-moment-a-philosophers-pandemic-insights/
https://www.israeltoday.co.il/act/help-the-aged-survive-corona/?ref=home-act
With his stature, chances are the Israeli authorities would look favourably upon a citizenship application from Ayatollah Khamenei, after all, since 1989, about 30,000 Iranians emigrated to Israel. OK, they were Jews, but, you know, high office, long service and all that, Allah could, just for him, briefly look the other way, have a little kip or something (it’s been a while, after all), you know, a little bit here, a little bit there, something can be worked out. So if, five years from now, you should happen upon a black-shrouded, white-bearded figure hunched-upon a beach in Tel Aviv, straining to see the girls go by, take a closer look.
Francis Weber says
Well said/written!
Ren says
What about fighting and killing over a pedophile and a terrorist?
Aunty Podes says
Khamenei of course has no use for bog paper to wipe his arse. His good book reserves his left hand for that purpose. He also uses his left hand for wagging at infidels and picking his nose.
Leonard Feinman says
It seems easy to make fun of Americans beause of an artificial toilet paper shortage. Especially funny coming from somebody who uses their left hand to wipe.
So, right, who needs toilet paper?
commonsense says
Khameini laments the failure of the West to deal with the coronavirus. But it will, with certainty, be the West itself which will develop effective treatments to combat the virus. Both Satans, Great and Little, are in contention to be in the forefront. From Iran and other Shari’a states, the world will be the recipient of nothing but hatred and invective.
If the Mullahs were true to their beloved Islam, they would refuse to allow the use of any newly developed treatments to fight this virus, even if, as unlikely as it is, such treatments were developed in Muslim countries, since such treatments would be bid’a, or innovations, which are haram, i.e. forbidden in Islam. The correct Islamic prescription should instead be an extra dose of urine from a she-camel. Khameini needs to take a refresher course in Islamic Science and Medicine 101.
Quazgaa says
I replaced TP with the quran.
Now I’m hemorrhoid free.
Allahusnackbar!
Rolf Wittwer says
Wastewater treatment plants are non-existent in most Islamic countries. After using sand, grass or at least 3 stones, the fingernails are cleaned with teeth. Soon 2 Billions proofing their backward lifestyle day by day.
That’s why they claim to be the most superior, proudest, best, honest and cleanest culture on Earth.
All of Islam urgently needs a comprehensive reformation before one of their brain-disabled people presses the red button on which “NUKE” is written. Incest could then be a real excuse.
Peter says
No doubt, Khamenei follows the perfect example of the Muslim prophet and uses sand, rocks, and palm leaves to wipe himself. Or did he need a fatwa permitting the use of toilet paper? Hmm, books have paper, too.
OLD GUY says
Islam and its sharia laws are totally disgusting.
Loki says
I have a truckload of red pumice landscaping rock for a contract that I am working on.
If any mussies are short of toilet rocks I can help you out for the amazing price of one gold dinar per sharp rock.
( IQ 70 people should buy into this 🙂 )