FREEDOM CENTER WEBINAR: TEACH-INS FOR THE TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY
The Freedom Center is proud to announce our exclusive new webinar series, “Teach-Ins for the Twenty-First Century.” Join us as some of the leading thinkers and pundits on the scene today discuss key issues related to the coronavirus pandemic and its ongoing implications, confronting the Left, the jihad terror threat, and much, much more. Ask your own questions of our experts!
Our inaugural webinar:
Thursday at 7pm Eastern (4PM Pacific):
CORONAVIRUS: THE MUSLIM RESPONSE
Featuring
ROBERT SPENCER
ROBERT SPENCER is the director of Jihad Watch and a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center. He is the author of nineteen books, including the New York Times bestsellers The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) (Regnery Publishing) and The Truth About Muhammad (Regnery Publishing) and the bestselling The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS (Bombardier Books). His latest book is The Palestinian Delusion: The Catastrophic History of the Middle East Peace Process (Bombardier Books).
Spencer has led seminars on Islam and jihad for the FBI, the United States Central Command, United States Army Command and General Staff College, the U.S. Army’s Asymmetric Warfare Group, the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), the Justice Department’s Anti-Terrorism Advisory Council and the U.S. intelligence community. He has discussed jihad, Islam, and terrorism at a workshop sponsored by the U.S. State Department and the German Foreign Ministry.
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mortimer says
This discussion about the Muslim attitude to the coronavirus, and to virology in general, is a welcome chance to expose the medieval mindset of Muslims that they struggle assiduously to conceal from their modern, Western, globalist allies.
When the Globalists eventually realize how primitive and backward Islam truly is, they will drop these false friends as more of a liability than an asset to their globalist, utopian cause.
The Globalists should be reminded often that their deceptive allies are super-spreaders.
gravenimage says
Robert Spencer Hosts Freedom Center Webinar Thursday on Coronavirus: The Muslim Response
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In general, the Muslim response has been the worst in the world. Even where some Infidels have been foolish or dismissive of the threat, I have not seen anyone but Muslims deliberately trying to spread the contagion.
Looks like a good Webinar.
ELI says
“In general, the Muslim response has been the worst in the world”
Most Muslim countries went on lockdown early. Dumb clerics on youtube and anonymous twitter posts don’t count as a response. For example, Saudi Arabia took measures very early on. Motocco, Tunisia and Algeria closed their mostques weeks ago. There were riots in Jordan due to the stringent nature of the lockdown.
It is the Chinese response that was the worst because it was deceptive and led to the spread of the virus. However given that this is a hate site it is necessary to redirect the anger of people like you and blame Muslims.
” I have not seen anyone but Muslims deliberately trying to spread the contagion.”
Of course not! any news not involving Muslims is ignored by this website and wilfully by you. You can and will ignore the below links and accuse me of terrorism and some nonsense. In fact everyone on this thread will do their best to ignore any evidence which does not line up with a worldview which apparently must blame Muslims.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/white-supremacists-encouraging-members-spread-coronavirus-cops-jews/story?id=69737522
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/14/national/crime-legal/shimane-man-arrested-threat-coronavirus-train/#.XpamE8gzZPY
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/08/us/texas-spread-coronavirus-arrest/index.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-fbi-texas-man-facebook-post-spread-grocery-store-20200410-klyqgag27rhb7laepnigqt7jbe-story.html.
https://apnews.com/6900cd336520d54a963e000a54720ec3
Sun says
“Most Muslim countries went on lockdown early”
One should at least check the internet before posting such nonsense. Only Saudi Arabia acted early with the closure of Mecca and Medina on 02/27. Most other Islamic countries started by mid March to advised people to avoid mass gatherings and handshakes…
Rest assured, that Mr. Spencer is always well informed about his topics. The webinar will be a success.
PS: Your Texan man could be possibly a Muslim. Meanwhile, the licking of groceries and the spitting into the faces of kuffars to spread the virus is widely known in Europe.
Enjoy an disgusting example from Germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQrGPCwQPQ4&feature=emb_logo
Jenny H says
They should dump the scum back in his home Country as soon as possible, never to be allowed back in. I wish I knew what he was saying but, have no particular desire to learn Arabic. (Is it Arabic?) Anyone who acts like that towards a generous host Country deserves to be kicked out.
Sun says
Jenny,
He seems to be Tunisian. I found this text online. I don’t know if the translation is accurate:
“The West has stolen the wealth of the Arab countries and we have the right to take everything because everything is ours. The West has stolen Arabia’s natural resources. I want to take revenge for that.
I had a tough childhood in Tunisia. We lacked everything. I don’t take the sweets here in the shop. We have enough of that ourselves at home. I also don’t drink from the beer, because Ramadan will soon be there.
I take everything I want here because we have also been robbed. And now another sip of lemonade. There is everything here in Germany. Everyone is rich. The people here do not know poverty and are therefore not afraid of it. Everyone come to Germany and do as I do. “
gravenimage says
ELI wrote:
There were riots in Jordan due to the stringent nature of the lockdown.
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Well, this is just hilarious–ELI is admitting that Muslims were rioting over Coronavirus safeguards to show us how Muslims are complying with Coronavirus safeguards.
Does he even realize how illogical this is? Likely not. But then, Islam has *never* been know for its logic.
More:
It is the Chinese response that was the worst because it was deceptive and led to the spread of the virus. However given that this is a hate site it is necessary to redirect the anger of people like you and blame Muslims.
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Certainly, China’s response has been dishonest and completely inadequate, as I myself have noted here several times. The Communist Chinese, whatever their myriad failings, have not actually been violently resisting safeguards against the disease, nor have they been intentionally spreading the disease.
Many Muslims have, though–and have done so, moreover, often on the urging of their clerics.
More:
” I have not seen anyone but Muslims deliberately trying to spread the contagion.”
Of course not! any news not involving Muslims is ignored by this website and wilfully (sic) by you. You can and will ignore the below links and accuse me of terrorism and some nonsense. In fact everyone on this thread will do their best to ignore any evidence which does not line up with a worldview which apparently must blame Muslims.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/white-supremacists-encouraging-members-spread-coronavirus-cops-jews/story?id=69737522
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/14/national/crime-legal/shimane-man-arrested-threat-coronavirus-train/#.XpamE8gzZPY
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/08/us/texas-spread-coronavirus-arrest/index.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-fbi-texas-man-facebook-post-spread-grocery-store-20200410-klyqgag27rhb7laepnigqt7jbe-story.html.
https://apnews.com/6900cd336520d54a963e000a54720ec3
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Well, ELI here must have spent a lot of time tracking these cases down. He’s got some neo-Nazis–certainly mainstream Americans, no? sarc/off
I condemn all of these creeps. Will ELI do the same for his Muslims friends? Given the fact that he also refuses to say anything negative about Jihad terror, despite having been asked almost a score of times here at this point, I very much doubt it.
And my noting that ELI will not condemn Jihad terror–which is quite obvious to anyone reading here at Jihad Watch–is not the same as saying that ELI himself has committed Jihad terrorism. I have no idea whether this is the case or not, nor have I ever claimed that I do.
ELI also might want to check before spamming like this–in the last story, the perp in Florida *has a Muslim name*. He might want to make sure in future that his apologia for Islam actually works as just that.
Dapto says
Wait till Ramadan and then the whole world will see.
Dapto says
Only 7 days to go
Save Europe says
The only ‘positive’ regarding this vile virus, is that we are not out on the streets, en mass, whereby they can drive cars/vans/lorries/trucks into us.
Westman says
Since Islam is so inept about biology: I would like to hear the Islamic response to cloning animals, and/or to the eventual creation of life by humans through DNA synthesis. Would humans creating life contradict the exclusive powers of Allah? Does Islam have an answer? It’s only a matter of time.
gravenimage says
One of the reasons Muslims oppose this is because it does not involve men raping women.
gravenimage says
And no–I am not making this up. I read something many years ago from a Muslim cleric after the cloning of Dolly the sheep saying that Islam would never accept the cloning of humans–not for ethical reasons, but because it would undermine men’s control over women. It was only later that I learned that this was orthodox Islam.
Uma Maheswar Nakka says
Good Afternoon,
Looks more appropriate one .
Regards
Uma
Noam says
There is no place for logic in islam. Debating is futile with people who believe that blind submission is a virtue. By the way, life has never been created by humans nor do we know how the first life started.
mortimer says
Response to Westman: Islam is fatalistic. Fatalism results in inactivity, stagnation, torpor, backwardness, regression to the pre-rational, pre-scientific 7th century.
Anjuli Pandavar says
I hope that the Muslim response to the CoVID-19 pandemic will finally lay to rest the deluded notion held by many critics of Islam of “I criticise Islam, the ideology/idea/religion; I have no problem with Muslims as people.” I have been arguing for years that there is a *huge* problem with Muslims *as people*. In all the Muslim responses to the coronavirus, one thing has been consistent for all Muslims, “Allah will protect us; we redouble our faith in Allah.” At this point, because of this consistency, one can still say that Islam is the problem. But beyond that consistency, there have been almost as many responses as there have been “scholars”. It varies from place to place and from one week to the next.
This would have been inconsequential before the age of global telecommunications, but today we can all see what all of them are saying and doing, and it’s all over the floor. Not only that, we can this chaotic scrambling for an explanation and a way out almost live 24/7, leaving Muslims no time to come up with a unified Islamic response before their catastrophic backwardness and ineptitude is on every television and computer screen around the world, all the OIC’s hard PR work unravelling before their eyes. At this point it is *Muslims* letting Islam down. At this point, *Muslims* are the worst enemies of Islam (ya Allah! I never thought I’d find myself agreeing with Irshad Manji). And there is no escape. They are ensnared by their own faith.
The whole coronavirus experience is bringing to light another contradiction that hadn’t occurred to me before. The contradiction between Islamic faith and Islam as a faith. The more Muslims strengthen and affirm their Islamic faith, the more they undermine Islam as a faith. They more they go to the mosque, the more they die. And it is not even Ramadan yet. Muslim communities are gutted, bewildered and punch-drunk in the face of what’s been happening. It is incomprehensible. How can it be that the more they turn to Allah, the more their loved ones die? Even in Britain, not Iran, Britain, Muslims are now buried in mass graves (sure, the mass graves are to Islamic standards, but fine comfort that is).
What happened to the glib “scholars'” get-out clause of two months ago: “if a Muslim dies from the virus, then Allah has decreed it, and he will go the Heaven anyway. But whatever you do, don’t lose faith. Keep faith in Allah.” Well, “scholars”, speak up! What about the mass graves? Huh? Is it Allah’s decree to rid the world of the best of peoples? Is the hadith of Islam, in the end, being driven back to where it started proving true? Tell your congregations about that hadith, Yasir Qadhi. Tell your flock some truth, for a change.
Can I allow myself to see a glimmer of hope in all this?
mortimer says
Anjuli Pandavar raises a wonderful question: How do the mullahs argue their way out of the epidemic? They have to face up to MODERN VIROLOGICAL SCIENCE and THEY ARE UNPREPARED FOR IT.
All the mullahs have to offer is Mohammed’s 7th century STUPIDITY … the sun sets in a muddy pool, and camel urine will cure, and disease is not transmissible.
No one can believe in Mohammed with so many blunders. Did Mohammed get anything right?
mortimer says
Anjulis Pandavar refers to the grief that many Muslim families will suffer. Some of this grief will be due to the mullahs who encouraged them to congregate when doctors were begging people to isolate. Many of the deaths due to the virus will be due to the mullahs who believed in Mohammed more than in modern medicine.
How could Mohammed be so wrong? How can Islam betray so many? The mullahs know Islam’s errors, anomalies and contradictions. They have a duty to tell people that they have discovered Islam is false.
Terry Gain says
“I criticise Islam, the ideology/idea/religion; I have no problem with Muslims as people.”
Yes, it has never made sense to me to like or trust the adherents of an evil ideology. OTOH, there is nothing to gained by being rude. So while I do not hesitate to give Islam the ridicule it so richly deserves, I am no more confrontational with individual Muslims than necessary. I understand that leaving Islam is very hard for a lot of reasons. Confronting one’s parents is hard. Leaving Islam is treated like a betrayal, so it must be very hard.
Marie says
It’s amazing that the Saudi Cultural Mission et al funds the Imperial College of London’s Neil Ferguson who provided the Models to the world. Strangely, they also help fund the IMHE at Washington University– amazingly both Fauci and Birx compared their modeling with the IMHE and proclaimed their projections were in line as the country was shut down. I would hope someone, somewhere would be a bit curious as to who funds these folks as this to me is more than an “oopsie! we overestimated in our modeling.” And on another positive note, Mokdad from IMHE will be on C-Span later. Does the saying “ruin their house from within” have even more relevance given the state of the country right now?
Don’t ever think they are “uneducated” because they’ve been studying for years funded by their governments to study at all the top universities in the US (Suadi, Qatar, UAE) with a huge push starting about 10 years ago with the numbers growing annually. Trust me when I say there are lots of MD’s, MPH’s, DMD’s, JD’s etc. And if you don’t trust me about the funding for Neil F or the IMHE, wiki it and see the wonderful, cultural partnerships that have been made between those colleges and I would kindly suggest that Mr Spencer add that point to his talk.
Terry Gain says
I am interested in whether Mr. Spencer thinks that any of the data from Muslim majority countries is reliable. I am inclined to accept only 2 answers. No and HELL NO.
I am also intrested in knowing why Germany is doing as well as it appears, given its Muslim population. According to Avi Schiffmann’s site Coronavirus Dashboaard, Germany has suffered 3856 fatalities which make its death rate 46.4 per million. The death rate of the U.S. which has 33,373 fatalities and a population of 338.7 million is 98.53 per million. Up here in hockey country, Canada with 1048 fatalities and a populalation of 38 million (plus) has a death rate of 27.5 per million.
I appreciate that density, personal morbidity factors, tourism, travel bans, lockdowns, social distancing and the ethnic make-up of a country are all contributing factors.
I am of the belief that Muslims are less inclined to obey orders to socially distance than non-Muslims.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Terry. I don’t trust statistics from Muslim countries, either.