The jihad does not pause for coronavirus quarantine.
“France: At least two killed, several injured in stabbing attack,” i24News, April 4, 2020:
At least two people were killed and several wounded in a stabbing attack in the French town of Romans-sur-Isère, local media are reporting, citing police sources.
According to the immediate reports, the attacker has been arrested. Police are currently investigating the motive behind the attack.
Conflicting reports are emerging on the number of injuries, ranging from five, as per France Bleu Drôme, to seven, as reported by the AFP. One of the wounded is in critical condition in the hospital….
According to some of the early reports, the perpetrator is a 33-year-old Sudanese asylum seeker, with withness [sic] accounts suggesting the attack was driven by a jihadist motive….
According to Le Parisien, the perpetrator lived next to the crime scene, and his roommate had also been arrested.
Frank Anderson says
“Police are currently investigating the motive behind the attack.”
ALL of us should take great comfort. (sarc/off)
tom parry says
THIS IS WHEN YOU SHOOT TO KILL
Frank Anderson says
T.P. in my US state and some others I think you are correct. But the EU in general has made self-defense a crime. The general rule, as shown by several prosecutions and convictions is that a person must let himself be murdered and leave the police to deal with the killer, which they do not have any enforceable obligation to do.
Remember the UK case were a man about my age was home when 2 “gentlemen” invaded and beat him, Somehow he got his illegal firearm, killing one and wounding the other. The homeowner was sentenced to I believe 15 years.
Self defense has been considered a basic and universal RIGHT, and in my opinion DUTY, as long as community civilization has existed. But not now. It is arguable that Greece must obtain approval from the EU, and the UN to defend its borders. If so, that is nonsense (I’m being restrained and “polite” with my language).
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonjour Franck,
“The general rule, as shown by several prosecutions and convictions is that a person must let himself be murdered and leave the police to deal with the killer, which they do not have any enforceable obligation to do.“.
In France that is not the case https://www.connexionfrance.com/Archive/What-is-the-law-on-self-defence. We are a nation of hunters, and self defense [légitime défense] is still being discussed when a violent crime involving self defense is committed https://blog.lefigaro.fr/frenchair/2013/09/self-defence-or-crime-a-jeweller-divides-france.html.
Keep in mind Europe has been ravaged by wars throughout its history, nevertheless I agree with you : we have the right not to accept the situation passively.
Take care of yourself
Amitiés
Frank Anderson says
Kevin,
I continue to thank you for telling me that milliards are used in place of US billions. When I saw German film from the extreme inflation during the Weimar Republic the narrator said billions when the picture showed a price tag in US trillions. I spent the last 2 years of 22 years in classrooms studying accounting. I can imagine the confusion and stress caused in international accounting by the different numbering systems. My effort to limit misunderstanding of numbers I write here is to write milliard/billion hoping that all who read my notes understand my meaning.
In some US states a law called the Castle Law has been adopted, which reduces the times people are arrested and prosecuted for acting in lawful self defense. Even if a person is not convicted of anything, the cost in money and emotional distress is enormous. The UK cases that have been discussed in the US make many people amazed at the upside down enforcement of law in “liberal” jurisdictions that put little or no value on citizens who should be protected and great value on people committing crimes up to and including murder.
I don’t remember if I told you about a discussion I had with a respected friend about self-defense. Recognizing that I have done many unpopular things in my life to cause a number of serious death threats, and had several attempts at carrying them out, I either hide in terror or am prepared to defend myself and the people around me who might also become targets, intended or accidental. My friend took the view that if someone came into the room to kill me, he would defend me with “a rolled up newspaper”. That of course would be useless in addition to being suicidal.
You know much more than I about the mass killings in France of a short time ago. I think it was 130 people dead. I have read that at the time, not only were citizens disarmed, so also was a substantial portion of the police force. That is where the US Second Amendment makes the US different. What good is a right of self defense if there is no way to exercise that right? Looking at the frequent reports of violent attacks in France, it looks like self-defense is an illusion instead of an accepted practice.
I suggest that self defense is not only a right, something we can do, but is also a duty, something we must do. Protecting ourselves by depending on others (the police) abandons our value as a resource to society. The police cannot be everywhere. There is a US case where the police displayed total incompetence to allow the rape and beating of a number of women for most of a day. The court ruled the police had no duty to the women to protect them. The police are there to “protect society”.
I live where police refuse to enforce many traffic laws, particularly speeding and following too close(ly). It makes driving a terror. No matter how fast a person drives, someone always wants to drive faster and refuses to pass. Following too close, tailgating, is not an accident or negligence: It is a deliberate decision to threaten the driver and passengers in the vehicle ahead with a deadly weapon that has been used a number of times worldwide to kill dozens or hundreds of people. In the US over 100 people a day are killed by vehicles, most from rear-end collisions. Over a thousand are injured.
When someone throws a rock off a bridge to kill someone in a passing vehicle who is totally unknown, it is called “universal malice” and is charged and prosecuted as murder. When someone hits and kills with a vehicle, there is no criminal charge and it is called negligence. But the police have “discretion” to ignore what happens in front of them. The rock was thrown deliberately and the vehicle is deliberately too close.
I think the point is that people ought to consider their self defense as “non-discretionary”. If the police cannot be depended on being present and taking effective action, then people either must, or be prepared to die whenever a criminal decides it is time to kill.
I wish you well. Frank
Lavéritétriomphera says
Bonsoir Franck,
https://french.yabla.com/fr/lesson-Mille-Million-Milliard-Big-Numbers-in-French-396
« The UK cases that have been discussed in the US make many people amazed at the upside down enforcement of law in “liberal” jurisdictions that put little or no value on citizens who should be protected and great value on people committing crimes up to and including murder. »
I find it hard to believe, I know the British and they are the kind of people who are not ready to remain passive and we, French, know a thing or two about that. Read a history book on that subject.
« I don’t remember if I told you about a discussion I had with a respected friend about self-defense… My friend took the view that if someone came into the room to kill me, he would defend me with “a rolled up newspaper”. That of course would be useless in addition to being suicidal. »
You summed up everything even if I do not agree with the American legislation on civilian arming.
« You know much more than I about the mass killings in France of a short time ago. I think it was 130 people dead. I have read that at the time, not only were citizens disarmed,..».
When my father died, we found his beretta well hidden in the house!
Many of us have in their possession hunting rifles (… and the rest) because we are a nation of hunters. In addition I think many firearms in circulation are not registered in France.
The past has proven repeatedly we are belligerent. For example “Duel of honour became so prevalent in France that Charles IX issued an ordinance in 1566 whereby anyone taking part in a duel would be punished by death“ https://www.britannica.com/topic/duel . The French nobility was destroyed by this stupid and dangerous “national” custom introduced in England by William 1 in the 11th century (judicial duel).
“I suggest that self defense is not only a right, something we can do, but is also a duty, something we must do.”
+1
“I live where police refuse to enforce many traffic laws, particularly speeding and following too close(ly). It makes driving a terror … Following too close, tailgating, is not an accident or negligence: It is a deliberate decision to threaten the driver and passengers in the vehicle ahead with a deadly weapon …”
Scary, but speed demons, reckless drivers, malice exist everywhere. However I heard Americans are more disciplined than French, they obey speed limits because (or so I thought) the American police does its job and hence Americans are better drivers (?).
“But the police have “discretion” to ignore what happens in front of them.”.
Disturbing, is the least I can say!
“I think the point is that people ought to consider their self defense as “non-discretionary”. If the police cannot be depended on being present and taking effective action, then people either must, or be prepared to die whenever a criminal decides it is time to kill.”.
I have already heard that, and that’s how problem and conflict arise, but let’s return to the specifics of what we’ve been talking about: supremacist discourse that have led to conflicts.
I would like you to look at this video even if the exodus is the subject. How can we not see the manifest parallelism with the Nazi Lebensraum? I think Nina Paley did a good job of summarizing the human nature, the desire to dominate, and of what is going on in the Mediterranean world, Europe and the rest of the world for thousands years. “This land is Mine” is the core problem. If the end of the video seems pessimistic, I still believe good triumphs over evil, life and truth triumph over all adversity and death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pKMV6e5kEo.
For better days
Amitiés
Lavéritétriomphera says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pKMV6e5kEo
Iambob says
I just heard about this from a Democratic congresswoman (another useful infidel) being interviewed by Chris Wallace. She referenced an attack, killing five people, by a crazy person in France.
Immediately, I knew (then) it was another Islamic terrorist attack. No mention, of course, of the jihadist being a Muslim migrant-as doing so (telling the truth) would be Islamophobic and ‘racist.’
The West will rue the day it turned away from the truth and ventured into the deceitful, self-destructive and suicidal realm of political correctness.
Islam is winning. The West is losing. And they know it. Sadly, and tragically, we don’t.
Frank Anderson says
Bob, some people cannot tell the difference between murder and suicide. I have seen suicide up close and personal. Suicide is my deciding to end MY life. Murder is my deciding to end YOUR life. The “leaders” betraying their fiduciary responsibilities to those they pretend to lead are not committing suicide. YOU cannot decide for me when it is time for MY life to end.
The difference is important, no matter who choses to ignore it. The people who were betrayed and murdered in WWII, Jews and others, did not commit suicide. They were murdered. In spite of that, Adolf Hitler and Joseph Goebbels preached that the people being murdered did it to themselves, therefor avoiding accepting responsibility for their actions in ordering the killings. Passing off the murder of Western Civilization as suicide is false, deceptive, misleading and serves only to help it continue.
Suicide is a tragedy which is blamed on the victim alone. Murder is a crime which should be charged against the perpetrator.
Michael Copeland says
“withness [sic] accounts suggesting the attack was driven by a jihadist motive….”
Good for them. This will make it harder for police to claim they do not know what the motive is.
Gradually the concept of jihad is entering the media.
mortimer says
Koran 47:4 “So when you meet those who disbelieve, strike necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens. That [is the command]. And if Allah had willed, He could have taken vengeance upon them [Himself], but [He ordered armed struggle] to test some of you by means of others. And those who are killed in the cause of Allah – never will He waste their deeds.”
Finally, the French police are admitting the jihad motive of the stabber.
France now has over 5 million Muslims. About 1/10 of 1 % … 50,000 Muslims in France will be ‘jihad-seekers’ who are willing to conduct militant jihad. It would take a team of four or five police detectives to survey each of them 24/7.
The request of Pres. Macron for a ‘made-in-France’ version of Islam is hopelessly naïve, since Islam is nothing more than the teachings in the Koran, Sira and hadiths. The primary source texts of Islam cannot be reformed, since they are considered to be ‘eternal, perfect and complete’. No one can improve perfection.
So Macron’s project is dead in the water. The only thing Macron can do is to fund organizations that help Muslims leave Islam.
Frank Anderson says
(sarc/on) “But Mortimer, that would be islamophobic-Macron”, (sarc/off)
We both know from reading and experience that the first step to dealing with any problem is to admit one exists. Macron, the Pope, Merkel, Trudeau, . . . have spent how many years and how many milliards/billions of dollars denying any problem between islam and non-Islamic citizens. They are trapped in their own lies. In order to deal with the problem new leaders must be found and placed who will start with the first step and continue the process of solution. The destruction and conquest of Western Civilization must be reversed.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, the French police are not admitting this–at least not so far–just some of the witnesses.
Goofy says
Why would any country let the enemy in behind its walls? The Muslims know no mercy in dealing with the infidels. This is not an EU matter and if they insist that it is everyone wants to get out.
Michael Copeland says
“Indeed, the disbelievers are ever to you a clear enemy.”
Koran 4:101
Savvy Kafir says
Good question, Not-So-Goofy. Allowing Muslims to live in civilized societies is unforgivably stupid. And if we do not correct this mistake, we will NOT be forgiven by future generations.
Jaydam says
Stand by for the media to announce that the perpetrator has mental health issues.
Emilie Green says
Before arriving on the scene of the murders French police texted from their car that “this had nothing to do with Islam.”
Westman says
More details about the attack. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-04/knifeman-in-southern-france-kills-2-in-attack-on-passers-by
“French media reports that there were seven other casualties, of whom three are in critical condition.
They also did not confirm reports that the man had shouted “Allahu akbar” (God is great) as he carried out the attack.”
Blurb1000 says
“Allahu akbar” meaning God i s grater. They mean their God i grater than your God. Heavenly racism.
Blurb1000 says
sticky finger… greater
gravenimage says
Thanks for that additional information, Westman–no surprise.
No Muzzies Here says
I could be mistaken, but I seem to perceive an uptick in the way Muslims are acting towards the free world. There seems to be more anger and violence than the usual amount. But I could be wrong. Perhaps we will know the answer sometime between April 23, and May 23, the dates for Ramadan this year.
gravenimage says
The more Muslims there are here, the exponentially worse the violence.
Blurb1000 says
No love beheadings?
gravenimage says
France: Muslim migrant with “jihadist motive” goes on stabbing spree, two dead, several wounded
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So it’s only the witnesses who understand the jihadist motive here–police are still “investigating the motive behind the attack”…
OLD GUY says
One of a thousand reasons to stop the migration of muslim and islamic people into Christian societies.
Omarthegod says
degenerate belief system