“Former Vice President Joe Biden is claiming that some supporters of President Donald Trump back the notion that ‘all Mexicans are rapists’ and that ‘all Muslims are bad.’”
In 2016, Hillary Clinton also made a blanket statement, calling Trump supporters a “basket of deplorables.” She also declared that “Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.” Now Biden is picking up where she left off.
Biden in essence is attacking Trump’s awareness that jihad terror is a serious problem in America, and he’s using identity politics in the same manner as the Obama administration did, and that “progressives” do in general. Obama went so far as to scrub necessary identifier words from usage in counterterror analysis:
Before the Boston Marathon bombings, the Obama administration argued for years that there is a big difference between terrorists and the tenets of Islam….A senior White House aide in 2009 publicly urged Washington to cease using the term “jihadist” — asserting that terrorists are simply extremists. Two years later, the White House ordered a cleansing of training materials that Islamic groups deemed offensive.
Trump supporters are generally anti-jihad, not against Muslims as people. The inconvenient truth that Biden is obscuring is that jihad terror is backed by Qur’anic texts, as well as by the Hadith and the tenets of Islamic law.
It is flat wrong for Biden to draw the conclusion that those who oppose jihad terror are anti-Muslim. His claim reveals a lack of understanding about the intricate and indisputable connection between jihad terror and normative Islam, in which martyrdom for the sake of Allah — killing and being killed (cf. Qur’an 9:111) — is the highest calling.
“Joe Biden Claims Trump Supporters Believe ‘Mexicans Are Rapists,’ ‘All Muslims Are Bad,’” by Haris Alic, Breitbart, April 16, 2020:
Former Vice President Joe Biden is claiming that some supporters of President Donald Trump back the notion that “all Mexicans are rapists” and that “all Muslims are bad.”
Biden, the presumptive Democrat nominee, made the comment while addressing donors at a virtual fundraiser on Wednesday. In particular, the former vice president was asked if he was planning to reach out to Trump’s “base” during the general election campaign.
Biden, who has claimed to be the only Democrat capable of winning back white working-class voters, purportedly laughed at the idea of conducting such outreach.
“There are people who support the president because they like the fact that he is engaged in political division,” Biden told the donors. “They really support the notion that, you know, all Mexicans are rapists and all Muslims are bad and … dividing this nation based on ethnicity, race.”
The former vice president, though, did admit that he was hoping to entice some of the people that backed Trump in 2016 to vote for him this time around.
“The people who voted Republican last time … who don’t want to vote for Trump, whether they want to vote for me or not is a different story, but they don’t want to vote for Trump,” he said during the fundraiser. “They’re looking for an alternative, and I think, I hope to God, I can provide that alternative.”…
Tracie l Koehler says
Yes all muslims are bad when they run around our metro parks in the middle of summer wearing their black ghost customs, Take your Islam shit and go back where you came from or face a civil war !!!
Jaydam says
+1
Lydia Church says
How “bad” they are is directly proportional to how “devout” they are in following their religion according to the koran.
lucretia macevil says
So true – beware the tell-tale black ‘prayer bruise’.
Peacelover says
agree
Peacelover says
Tracie says it.
toomanyhobbies says
1.5 Billion muslims, 25-30% are Jihad 450 million want us dead… who here wants to take that chance??? show of hands….
Tammy says
Maybe that idiot should read the Quran! It say to kill anyone that isn’t Muslim ! Biden is so stupid
owensgate says
All depends on how you define “Bad”. If you equate “bad” with “SIN”, a rational comparison, then yes, they are ALL bad and ALL going to Hell. That’s a Biblical fact. Look it up. Acts 4:12, for example, and John 3:16.
James says
Islam and Muslims are two different things, as Bill Warner says. But by bringing excessive numbers of Muslims into the country and encouraging non-assimilation, the government is furthering the Islamist agenda.
Terry Gain says
Bill Warner concedes much too much. Every Muslim is an adherent of an evil and irrational ” religion”, which is an ingenious conquest ideology because, inter alia, it has the Golden Badge and protection of a religion.
commonsense says
Agree absolutely. Well and succinctly stated. Warner disappoints here, as, frankly, does, our own Christine Douglass-Williams, with this comment taken from her article under discussion: It is flat wrong for Biden to draw the conclusion that those who oppose jihad terror are anti-Muslim. His claim reveals a lack of understanding about the intricate and indisputable connection between jihad terror and normative Islam, in which martyrdom for the sake of Allah — killing and being killed (cf. Qur’an 9:111) — is the highest calling. If one opposes jihad terror, then one must perforce be anti-Muslim, whose theology mandates and glorifies warfare and killing in Allah’s cause (fi sabil Allah. Jihad and Islam are inseparable, for god’s sake.
Parenthetically, some years ago, Dr. Warner confirmed to me, as I had suspected, that his actual surname is not Warner; Warner is his nom de guerre, which he took because it referenced the term “warner” which is used in the Qur’an a number of times.
Giacomo Latta says
There is a possibility that a muslim in a muslim-dominated country is so due to the ever-present fear of not being muslim enough for others but once he finds himself in the free world there is no excuse for not attending one of Dr. mortimer’s deprogramming seminars of his own will. If you live in the West and you see a muslim you know exactly what you’ve got in front of you.
Emilie Green says
“They’re looking for an alternative, and I think, I hope to God, I can provide that alternative.”
Biden is a chip off the old block of East Coast liberal elites. He’ll provide the same UN-saturated, anti-America Democrat policies since Wilson. Trump may be from the East Coast, he may be party of an elite, but he is not a through-and-through liberal to the point of destroying America.
Peter Buckley says
The problem isn’t “muslims” per se. A large percentage of them wouldn’t know a Quran from a Beano . Another large percentage have only a vague idea (what their parents have passed down). Another large percentage have an idea, but choose to only do/ say the “acceptable” (at least in the West) stuff.
Muslims can’t help being born into this disaster called Islam. It’s not their fault that their parents haven’t yet left the faith.The problem is the effect their religion has on them when they DO follow it and take it seriously:
https://www.thelocal.de/20100606/27673
FYI says
7 things muslims don’t know about islam..
1}allah’s enemy is a MAN called the “king of kings”,MALIK AL MALAK.
{Sahih Muslim vol 5 hadith #5611}
2}muslims praying in public “to be seen by men”?
allah calls them HYPOCRITES
koran 4:142
3}allah the merciful?
No.
allah does not permit final penitence koran 4:18: a god who does not permit final penitence is NOT merciful.Or who sends women to hell for the ‘sin’ of being ungrateful{TAKFURNA}Sahih muslim 241
4}allah MISSED the Golden Rule which is defined as being equal to “the MEANING of the law of Moses and the prophets” by Jesus Christ in Matthew 7 v 12
5}The 2nd chief commandment of God Lev19;18 is IMPOSSIBLE in islam since infidels are classed as being inferior to muslims and “the WORST of created beings”koran 98:6.In fact islam contradicts and opposes BOTH of the two chief commandments{Deut 6:4-9,lev19:18} AND the Exodus 20 Decalogue.
6}the koran insists that only members of the Children of Israel{=the Jews,the Israelites} had the right to the prophethood.
muhammed-laughably -wasn’t from the children of Israel…so does not satisfy the koran’s own criterion of who was entitled to be a prophet{all the Biblical prophets do:they all come from the Children of Israel}
koran 45:16
7}allah CONFIRMS the Bible koran 3:3 ..and nowhere in the koran says the Gospel is corrupted.In fact-note to muslims who attack the Gospel..allah CONDEMNS any muslims who attack the Gospel:”whoso judgeth not by that which allah hath revealed such are evil”.Given that allah claims to be the author of the Gospel koran 5:46 he condemns anyone who attacks it in koran 5:47
see koran 5:46-47
muslims don’t know these things because they don’t read the koran and the ‘holy’ men of islam won’t tell them{they would lose their power in that case}
FYI says
typo
MALIK AL AMLAK[“the King of kings”]
{…I guess “allah” just doesn’t like infidels using his Arabic..or reading his “perfect” koran and finding all the errors in it which by allah’s OWN criterion of koran 4:82 shows that the koran,in its imperfections,can only come from “other than allah”:human origin.It’s allah’s little koranic joke..allah the greatest of all deceivers koran 3:54….geddit?}
muslims do 3 things to refute criticisms of their koran.
1]Fiddle the Arabic trick{to hide the errors..a diacritic here, a diacritic there..”oh you couldn’t possibly understand the koran.it is in classical Arabic”}
2]islamic whatboutery and deflection:change the topic.Blame the Jews ,Israel etc.If you are ex-muslim you can expect ad hominems and parody accounts as islamic apologists have to defend the indefensible.
3]Raid the Bible{usually say ,something in Deuteronomy}to discredit the Bible which is funny when you know that according to the koran k3:3,if allah claims he gave the Torah to Moses koran 2:87 and which he confirms as being true koran 3:3 then the author of Deuteronomy according to the koran is…allah:so muslims are attacking what allah claims he wrote.But muslims who attack the Bible don’t know that…
There is no evidence of corruption in the Bible:it is obviously the koran which is in error.
If you are a muslim:seriously,READ the koran for yourself away from the imams who have a vested interest in you NOT noticing the errors in it
{like allah has Mary in the christian Trinity koran 5:116,Jews don’t believe in any “ezra is the son of allah” koran 9:30}
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, Peter, most Muslims do indeed practice Islam.
Dan says
Then WHY aren’t there tons of “good” muslims reporting the “bad” muslims to the authorities?
Especially the imams– I mean the ringleaders, preaching all that the “Kill anybody not muslim.” b.s.
elee says
+1. The “moderate Muslims” aid abet conceal and subsidise the actual jihadists and never denounce their colleagues who do the actual violence. Plus, of course, we never know when a hitherto “moderate” Muslim will receive the call the activates sleepers.
elee says
Typo, sorry, should be “the call that activates sleepers.”
gravenimage says
Good point, Dan.
Sun says
+1
I also wonder where all the moderate Muslims are who actively protest every time after every Islamic terror attack, mass rape, or killing of non-Muslims occur…
Boromir's Horn says
Does this country really want to go back to another apology tour and not knowing what bathroom to use?
As Joe would say “Come On Man”
Hank Mansfield says
It’s a bit of gallows humor I’ve seen that applies here.
Obama picked Biden as Veep because Biden was a life insurance policy. Biden is such a stuttering cluster**** of a human being that nobody would be crazy enough to attempt to assassinate Obama as long as Biden was next in line.
gravenimage says
Actually, few Americans are given to assassination as a form of “protest”. This is true even with someone as appalling as Obama. And I’m glad of it–just look at what nations prone to murder their leaders actually look like.
Red Falcon 1325 says
Joe, you’re correct. Oh, wait. Joe, how many days since the last islamic terrorist attack somewhere in the world? Zero, that’s right!
jewdog says
It’s pretty stupid to knock voters since you wind up alienating doubters and undecideds. That’s a mistake Hillary made and now Biden is following in her footsteps. Notice that Trump, for all his insulting various individuals, does not insult blocks of voters.
gravenimage says
True, Jewdog. If Biden wants to win, he needs a lot of Trump supporters to vote for him. How will this help him? Never mind–he can’t stop himself from doing things like this.
Westman says
Sadly, Mr. Biden is losing his mental capacity for learning. It’s doubtful that he will ever read the Quran or be the US President. It seems doubtful that he has even written his talking point about Trump voters.
By all observation, the Democrat party knows he is becoming a liability and must not be the nominee. It is possible that Biden could be elected as a proxy for the Presidency while a more aggressive person is purposefully chosen for Vice President to take over the Presidency under the 25th amendment; however that would be the beginning of “banana republic” politics, and likely, cause future political violence for the US.
Terry Gain says
Westman
I would suggest a minor correction (an editing capability would be most helpful). Biden is not electable. My prediction is that he will be replaced at the D Convention. If not, I will be shocked if they are stupid enough to let him debate DJT
Hank Mansfield says
A Trump versus Biden debate would definitely occasion some popcorn.
Woke Infidel says
Agreed, Terry Gain. Standing up Biden in a debate with Donald Trump would be incredibly foolish and practically guarantee a Republican victory. Biden MUST be replaced; time will tell by whom.
James Lincoln says
Terry Gain,
I believe that you are correct.
Democrats are in a panic because they know that Joe Biden will crumble after just one debate with Pres. Trump – if not even before.
I mean, seriously, “Sleepy Joe” cannot even string two sentences together.
The Democrats are just trying to figure out how to replace him in some face-saving way…
andrew mckendrick says
Steve Bannon has a theory that Hillary will ride to the rescue at the last minute ,time will tell.
Terry Gain says
I disagree with Steve Bannon. i don’t think that Hillary is going to stagger onto the stage and rescue the Democrat party. Nor do I think that Michelle Obama will risk her vaunted and undeserved reputation by throwing her hat into the ring. Trump would trounce her as well. I think the Democrats will run a virtual campaign. They’re only hope, IMHO, is that this pandemic doesn’t go away.
I wanted to get a message to Graven Image that Avi Schiffmann’s coronavirus dashboard site is down. I noticed yesterday that he it had not been updated since Friday and I took the liberty of sending him a message on Facebook messenger asking if there was a problem. To my surprise he replied that the government was not letting him update his site. I asked which government and did not receive a reply, although he did indicate that they were working on the problem. The next time I visited his site, which was this morning, I noticed that his site is now down. I don’t know what to make of this. Perhaps there is an innocent explanation. Perhaps it is sinister.
gravenimage says
Hi, Terry. I am alarmed about Avi Schiffman–I hadn’t checked his site for several days.
I checked his Facebook page and his last post there was April 15. I tried accessing his Counter, and it keeps timing out.
https://www.facebook.com/AviSchiffman-102221691465519/
(note–I started this post early this afternoon, then got busy)
I checked the Counter just now, and it seems to be back up:
https://ncov2019.live/data
Of course, I don’t know if the site is still recording data. I hope so–this is the best overall Coronavirus site I have seen. That it was created by a 17-year-old is all the more impressive.
Terry, please keep us posted about Avi.
And I very much agree with you about Hilary. As disappointed as many are about Biden, I think substituting Hilary, who was not a hit even four years ago and has not maintained much of a public presence, would be even less popular.
That being said, I don’t think practically speaking that the Dems will be able to replace Biden at all. I could be wrong, of course.
gravenimage says
I just checked Avi’s site again now, and the numbers have gone up. This is a good sign that the site is working again.
gravenimage says
I don’t think the Dems will be able to replace him–he came out ahead after a winnowing of a pool of twenty-five candidates. Many in the party’s power structure would love to replace him–but I believe it would be too impolitic for them to do so.
Terry Gain says
No, not all Muslims are bad. Islam is clearly an evil conquest ideology, but some adherents of the ideology (and presumably a certain Pope) are perhaps just abysmally ignorant about the doctine and history of the ideology.
I would like to see Biden try to justify an ideology that was spread by the sword and has a 1400 year history of Jihad; that does not believe in free will; that mandates killing those who will not submit to or who renounce the ideology; and those who criticize either the so-called prophet of the so-called religion
Biden couldn’t have done that when he was all there. I would love to see Obama try to justify an ideology which is opposed to freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, freedom of and from religion, gender equality and equality of citizenship. Somehow, referring to the Crusades of the Spanish Inquisition wouldn’t cut it. Perhaps he would claim that Hitler was a Catholic.
Spencer and Wood and Christian Prince and hundreds of others, would wipe the floor with him.
janwog says
Not all Muslims are bad (idiocy) of Biden, but Islam is potentially a dangerous ideology, specially so called moderate Muslims are not on the forefront fighting against discrimination and persecution of non Muslims in many Islamic countries.
Terry Gain says
Janwog
What do you mean by potentially? We will not stop the ongoing Islamic conquest with milquetoast. You are among friends. You can speak truthfully and candidly. Be assertive.
gravenimage says
Thousands of dead Americans make Islam far worse than just potentially dangerous, janwog.
Woke Infidel says
BTW, as a footnote: Hillary Clinton’s original 2016 comment was that “HALF” of Trump supporters fell into her “basket of deplorables.” I cite a CNN (just for fun) article in which she later said she regretted it. https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-basket-of-deplorables/index.html
Terry Gain says
All of Hillary Clinton is deplorable.
James Lincoln says
According to the feature article:
“Biden told the donors, “They really support the notion that…all Muslims are bad…”
According to Merriam-Webster, the definition of bad – referring to a person is:
“morally objectionable : EVIL – a bad man”
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bad
Words and their definitions are important. muslims have a different definition for “bad” when referring to other muslims.
If one muslim states that another muslim is a “bad” muslim, it means that this “bad” muslim is not “islamic enough”.
If a non-muslim states that a muslim is a “bad” muslim, it means that they are “too islamic”.
As far as their devotion to islam, muslims range from being “muslims in name only”, all the way to being “devout violent islamic jihadis”.
All muslims have the potential of becoming more devout to islam which is very “bad” for society.
And a small percent of muslims leave their faith and become apostates, which is “good” for society.
Terry Gain says
Yes a good discussion of the bad and worse and Islam. If we were to discuss is lame in terms of the Good, Bad and the Ugly, I guess the Good is Islam’s warm embrace of those who join Islam. I can’t think of much good beyond that.
Terry Gain says
My dictation software refuses to type Islam. It types is lame. Yes, I need to read more carefully and not be in such a hurry before I hit the post comment button.
Peter Buckley says
I wouldn’t call 23% “small”:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/26/the-share-of-americans-who-leave-islam-is-offset-by-those-who-become-muslim/
In fact, given we know many apostates are too fearful of “going public”, that figure is almost certainly an underesimate.
gravenimage says
Peter, these stats overall are far from comforting.
Tony Naim says
Joe Biden should move to an Islamic country, to find out how long he can last!
Terry Gain says
Joe Biden was planning to visit a Muslim country, but he can’t remember which one.
ET says
LOL. aka lost and loony
Daniel R says
Not all muslims are bad. The very, very few that aren’t are either too indiferent or too scared to denounce and reject their evil, mysoginistic, discriminatory, totalitarian and antisemitic ideology-disguised-as-religion.
Terry Gain says
I have another idea concerning who will be the Democrat nominee. I don’t think Michelle Obama has what it takes to go up against President Trump. She would be risking too much. However I can see her accepting a Vice President nomination, on the not so tacit understanding that Joe Biden will soon be stepping down. That way, she would not have to debate Trump or go up directly against him and she could still become president in the near future. I think this is their plan.
Giacomo Latta says
” I can provide that alternative”
Way to blow it, Biden! You must always save the announcement of your strong point for the week just before the election date.
TKF says
Muslims run the spectrum of devoutness. Fact is, the Jihadis and Islamists and suicide bombers are the most devout. They are the ones who take the writings literally and act accordingly. Remember, while not all Muslims are the same…..Islam NEVER changes.
TKF says
If Biden is elected (Allah forbid), you can be sure as ten dimes make a dollar that he would immediately re-implement “Operation Head Up Ass”, in regards to Islamic terrorism.
John says
Hey JOE, ALL ISLAM IS BAD, BARBARIC Totalitarian Ideology of Male SAVAGES.
124andmore says
Joe, you are truly one of the most ignorant men on earth.
Linde Barrera says
Here is my response to Joe Biden: There is doctrine and there is human behavior. Often, the human behavior is based on the doctrine but not always. In the case of Islam, the doctrine admonishes Muslims to kill infidels, but most Muslims do not kill infidels. This leads me to conclude that Muslims are allowed to pick and choose what they like and what they do not like in Islamic doctrines. So then by picking and choosing, they are negating that all of the Quran is the word of Allah. So the outcome is confusion on the part of non-Muslims to fully understand what it is that Allah wants and how 95% of his followers do not carry out what Allah wants.
For me this shows Islam is the religion of Satan the devil.
Kepha says
Or, they are pragmatic; or, they have means for forgiving their erring members; or whatever.
I’m sure that not every superannuated Communist Party member engaged in terrorism or political murder, either.
gravenimage says
True, Kepha.
Kepha says
Joe, speaking as an Evangelical Christian, until you’ve tried it, don’t knock our custom of serving live-stewed liberated lesbians for Thanksgiving. A fat one serves about six families, dozen two-headed and polydactylous kids and all. There. I’ll bet any Democrat lurkers here believe this in earnest, rather than recognizing it as bitter sarcasm towards a false meme they seem eager to press.
Francis Weber says
If they have a Quran, love Muhammad and Allah they are bad,bad.
OLD GUY says
Joe’s been feeding at the trough of Soros and the Muslim lobbyist or any other foreign entity who will write him or his family a big enough check for 40 years. Joe’s for sale to the highest bidder.
Akaula says
This obfuscation of transforming the ideological proclivity for terrorism in to all Muslims are bad argument, is either intentional obfuscation or outright intellectual dumbness. A forest is dangerous does not imply all trees are dangerous.
Danger is in the theological stands of Islam and what its recommendations are to its followers.. That is like fores of Islamic environment created by its books.. It has nothing to do with all Muslims argument. Man has become senile.