“A bid to build a 1,000 capacity ‘mega-mosque’ in one of London’s most iconic buildings has been met with a rash of last-minute objections from locals, with concerns citing its close proximity to the city’s world-famous historic gay quarter. The plans submitted to the City of Westminster Council surround the Trocadero building…on Picadilly Circus in London’s cultural hub in the West End. ”
A mega-mosque in a historic gay quarter is odd, given that normative Islam prescribes the death penalty for gays, as well as coverings for women and abstinence from alcohol, but clearly the mosque leadership doesn’t care about the impact on residents.
Westminster City councillor JP Floru said: “This is not a small scale mosque catering for local demand. There are fewer than five per cent of Muslims living in this area, who use small local mosques. Setting up a 1,000 capacity flagship mosque right next to the long-standing gay district of Soho will damage local cohesion…..The area is already heavily overcrowded — imagine adding another 1,000 after Friday prayers — road traffic will have to be stopped. Let’s keep central London for entertainment use, and place new large places of worship where there is local demand for it.”
The Islamic call to prayer (adhan) is also now being blasted on loudspeakers in London during Ramadan, with the stated reason being to comfort Muslims during the coronavirus lockdown. Are Muslim leaders willing to sign a document that the adhan, which declares Islam to be supreme, will not continue once the lockdown ends?
There is a pattern to be noted in what Councillor Floru describes above that relates in general to the demands of leaders of organized Islamic centers, mosques and groups. First, they are presented as demands which are needed, and opposed only by “racists” and the “intolerant.” Demands by these leaders also exceed those of any other group; others generally worship in peace and with consideration for the larger community. Islamic supremacists infringe on the rights and peace of communities (eg. with the adhan); they cause disruption and division, and tearing away at of social cohesion in Western societies. Anyone who opposes them is called “Islamophobic” for doing so.
Some non-Muslims Westerners view Muslims as disadvantaged, oppressed, in need of help, and in general as victims. Therefore, they tolerate Muslim leaders’ excessive demands, and even aid in the fulfillment of these demands. This is also why Muslim rape gangs, violent Somali gangs in London, jihad attacks, illegal Muslim migration, Islamic hate preachers, etc. are allowed to proliferate. It is because of identity politics and the soft bigotry of low expectations against Muslims: they are an “oppressed” group, and so are not expected to be civil.
No other religion makes demands of societies that cause widespread disruption and that challenge societal freedoms. Yet in every Islamic country, those of other faiths not only lack equal status, but hold inferior status, and the persecution of Christians and other religious minorities remains a critical issue.
“Residents Voice Opposition to 1,000-Capacity Mosque on London’s Iconic Piccadilly Circus,” by Oliver JJ Lane, Breitbart, May 18, 2020:
A bid to build a 1,000 capacity “mega-mosque” in one of London’s most iconic buildings has been met with a rash of last-minute objections from locals, with concerns citing its close proximity to the city’s world-famous historic gay quarter.
The plans submitted to the City of Westminster Council surround the Trocadero building…on Picadilly Circus in London’s cultural hub in the West End. Under the new design, the basements and part of the ground floor would be converted into a 1,000 capacity mosque.
The property is owned by Malawian-born, London-based developer Asif Aziz, and the conversion of part of the iconic building is being shepherded by his registered charity the Aziz Foundation. Among the trustees of the charity are Mr Aziz himself, and Talat Malik — a trustee of the Wimbledon mosque.
Stating that nurturing “disadvantaged communities who often lack representation and voice in mainstream society” is part of the mission of the foundation, the planning documents submitted to the council names Sheikh Sulayman Van Ael as the intended imam for the mosque. Sheikh Van Ael is a self-described Dutch Muslim convert who was born into an atheist family but found his faith in his teens.
While the application was lodged with the council in February, the council has seen a late surge of opposing statements to the plan from Londoners expressing apparently serious concerns. One of those is author and former Westminster City councillor JP Floru, who told Breitbart London the scale of the development and its proximity to the Soho district were worrying.
Soho, historically a centre of London’s gay and alternative culture and whose bars, cafes, and nightclubs lie just yards from the Trocadero building, has been cited in a number of responses to the planning application.
Mr Floru said: “This is not a small scale mosque catering for local demand. There are fewer than five per cent of Muslims living in this area, who use small local mosques. Setting up a 1,000 capacity flagship mosque right next to the long-standing gay district of Soho will damage local cohesion.
“The area is already heavily overcrowded — imagine adding another 1,000 after Friday prayers — road traffic will have to be stopped. Let’s keep central London for entertainment use, and place new large places of worship where there is local demand for it.”
Adding a remark on the apparent attitude of the council to the application, Floru added: “Perhaps it’s a sign of the times that local councillors have kept quiet about this application, and this controversial proposal for a mega-mosque on Piccadilly does not seem to have been in the media at all.”….
Jagf14 says
The level and the extent to which we are catering to the muslim community is becoming utterly absurd. Why do Muslims need extra comfort during this pandemic..?? Are they better than anyone else or just more sensitive ..?? Is it because Muslims deserve extra comfort all the time because every single person that does not conform to their beliefs is automatically labeled as racist..?? Is it because they collect benefits like leaches from social services and do not contribute in anyway to the general welfare of the countries they live in…??
People of other faiths are in as much need of “comfort” during this pandemic, if not more.
Why should Londoners or anyone else in many other parts of the world cater and succumb to the childish demands of Muslims exclusively…??
Enough of this political correctness BS.
Rufolino says
Islam defines the term “brass-faced” !
Islam wants to put a mosque in the Trocadero Building. Why ? Because it’s so conspicuous ! Piccadilly Circus is the centre of London (Times Square is the same). They do this everywhere, to make the population take notice that their rulers have arrived. It’s policy.
Of course they know it’s on the edge of a district popular with gay people, and they look forward to making their presence felt. They are asking for trouble.
It would be insane for Westminster City Council to ok this plan. But who knows how far their arms are bound behind their back.
And if it doesn’t happen this year, many plans like this are bound to happen in the future as Moslem influence grows.
Philip D Ritchie says
They are doing exactly as they say they would. This is their slow but deliberate move to moslemise the west. If you say no then you’re a racist. I believe we have lost the battle to them already because we have too many indolent, lazy citizens who will not do what it takes to get rid of them. We allow liberals to shout the rooftops in support of political correctness `bs’. Farage, Britain First and other groups who support stopping this `bs’ have been maligned, harassed, criticized and even jailed for their ideas on stopping this cult. When we allowed high percentage of immigration we were doomed. It will need strong willed politicians and citizens to stop this but I believe overall it is too late!!!!!!!!
David says
Spot on, 100%. Where do I sign?
Jane London says
They are wimps and it’s simply a ploy to state that they are in Britain and going to stay. It’s a lot of rubbish and shows what it would be like if they did manage to take over. We have to fight it and fight hard. This cannot be allowed to happen widely.
Tangata says
Why?? It’s the $$$ and the Power of guaranteed votes was directed by their mosques.
mortimer says
Britain is at a crossroads. If they do not make the right choice, they will disable their own culture, and enable a vicious, backward, supremacist Death Cult.
The government should clandestinely fund deprogrammers to argue Muslims out of Islam. Once they see the Koran is of human origin, they leave Islam instantly.
Frank Anderson says
Mortimer, a nuclear armed death cult having US made Trident missiles on board nuclear powered submarines! What a wonderful prospect? Almost as good as a nuclear armed France with breeder reactors and hundreds of bombs already in inventory. What a fantastic prospect for world peace? Somebody has got to be kidding? Huh?
James Lincoln says
Frank,
If the stuff really hits the fan, is there any way that the United States can proactively secure the nukes, subs, and missiles, etc.?
Frank Anderson says
James, I dread the prospect. Look what Churchill had to do to the French fleet in North Africa when France fell to the Germans, and the sailors refused to come to the UK. There are hundreds, perhaps several thousand nuclear weapons in Europe that the US does not control. And with all the reactors in both countries, especially the breeder reactors in France, a flood of newly manufactured weapons with mature, sophisticated and tested designs would follow.
There are 2 books to read if you want to learn more.
The Effects of Nuclear Weapons, published by the United States Government Printing Office. and On Thermonuclear War by Herman Kahn, published in the 1950’s. All this arms control nonsense with Russia is a mindless, delusional joke.
James Lincoln says
Frank,
Much thanks for the reply.
I’ll check out those two books…
Frank Anderson says
I first read Kahn’s book in high school. A nuclear trained retired officer told me about the Effects book in law school. Kahn’s book may take some effort to find. He spent hundreds of pages thinking the unthinkable. I have no reason to disagree with his work.
You are familiar with Churchill’s order to the UK navy regarding the French fleet? Really sad day. But extremely necessary.
Dawne Swift says
We don’t seem to get a choice. The establishment seems almost impossible to get round without armed revolution (the last resort). Look at what we had to go through to get our democratically voted choice of leaving the EU. A large proportion of British citizens cannot stand what is happening here but those in positions of power pay no attention to this whatsoever. ~And we aren’t allowed even pepper spray here. I’d have to travel to Germany to get some to smuggle in. It’s a police state realistically.
Rufluc says
Sadly I have to agree with you Dawne…..unless of course you’re a Muslim then anything goes!
gravenimage says
Right now patriotic Britons are speaking out against this. Making your voice heard is an important step.
Jocelynn Cordes says
How awful. I’m sorry to hear about your limited defenses. It seems so surreal to me, as I live in red-neck country. Here, the question is not whether you have a gun in your home, but whether you have what amounts to an arsenal.
James Lincoln says
Jocelynn Cordes,
I live in the “liberal” northeast United States.
It’s getting harder and harder to put up with the liberal – or even outright leftist crap – which includes even members of my “extended” family.
Just a couple of weeks ago, my sister-in-law asked me who I favored for the upcoming presidential election, presuming that it would be a Democrat. I told her “Pres. Trump” and gave my unemotional evidence-based reasons. I thought that she was going to have a stroke…
I’ve actually considered moving to redneck country, or maybe even Poland or Hungary. As soon as the pandemic winds down, I plan to take a trip to Budapest – for starters…
Frank Anderson says
James, no place is perfect. But come south to Alabama, even further south to south Alabama. Visit and see for yourself.
James Lincoln says
Frank,
Absolutely agree, no place is perfect.
When I was in flight surgeon school at NAS Pensacola, I rented a condominium in Perdido Key, right on the beach.
From there, I would explore the Gulf Shores in Southern Alabama. Very nice, I was impressed. Nice people too.
As far as Poland or Hungary. It would only be a “vacation property” while maintaining my primary residence in the United States…
Frank Anderson says
Two of my favorite places to visit are the Aviation Museum in Pensacola and the Air Force Museum near Destin. My uncle was fascinated by helicopters. My near hypnosis comes from looking at radial engines and Gatling guns. The Air Force museum has a full scale cutaway of an R-4360, 28 cylinder radial engine, and many Gatling guns in addition to a “whole bunch” of airplanes. It’s been quite a few years since I have been able to make the trips in person, but I can still in my imagination. Maybe some day I’ll get to go again. Come South for safety, hospitality and friendship. There are some really good people here and more are welcome.
gravenimage says
Jocelynn and James, I have the same problems in the San Francisco bay area where I live.
Joe says
To quote a great man”we must be made literally mad, it is like watching a nation build it’s own funeral pyre”
w says
Where I live 3000 people objected to a Mosque in a former factory building, pretty much all the surrounding populace, the applicants changed the application to include a multi faith room, and sports hall for the community, but the majority of the building will be a mosque even with over whelming objection from the surrounding community the application was granted permission.
They know which boxes to tick to guarantee planning permission they play the system and get their way in the end.
So far work on the building has not started I suspect this will be because they will have applied for grants to ensure as much tax payer money is used in the conversion of the building as possible,
gravenimage says
Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller have worked hard against the Ground Zero Mosque.
Westman says
Perhaps there is a larger picture here, not unlike Rome, where huge cities finally exceed their taxing ability to pay for the repair of an aging and crumbling infrastucture. The city’s citizens start moving out or dying of old age and the next generation goes to more economical/younger cities, which creates a surplus of old housing and pockets of affordable but small and old housing then taken by immigrants and minorities. Unlike Rome, the new arrivals can get subsidized housing and a dole and live better than formerly. Eventually, even the financial sector might move out, leaving London to deteriorate.
Allowing this mosque in London would just be another incentive for citizens to leave and another brick in the creation of Londonstan.
James Lincoln says
Many good points made, Westman.
If that mega-mosque gets built, surrounding property values will plummet.
Rufolino says
This may sound like contradiction James but I doubt very much that property prices will plummet near this planned mosque.
The big mosque at Baker Street, near Madame Tussaud’s and Regent’s Park, had no effect on property prices, which remain so high that only Middle Eastern millionaires can afford them !!
Jocelynn Cordes says
How many mosques do you have in London? For Chrissakes, what was the point of fighting the Nazis?
James Lincoln says
Thanks for your reply, Rufolino.
I guess it’s an indication of how far Islam has infiltrated the UK.
At least, for now, in the United States mosques tend to lower surrounding property values – especially if the community allows the amplified islamic “call to prayers”.
Walter Sieruk says
Wow, those stealth jihadists never stop pushing Islamic ways on the nations and cities of the West .In an every way that they are able What total Islamic all they have.
The locals are right and have every right to oppose the construction of that mega-mosque in London ,
For if the British locals don’t object and put up resistance to the building of that huge intrusive mosque the Muslims engaging in this Islamic project will view as a sign of weakness as well as lack of will the part part of Westerners.
Furthermore,such building a grand mosque in London has symbolic meaning in the minds of many Muslims .Which is they will see that large Mosque in London as a symbol Islamic claim victory over the capital of a Western nation
Lory says
Furthermore,such building a grand mosque in London has symbolic meaning in the minds of many Muslims .Which is they will see that large Mosque in London as a symbol Islamic claim victory over the capital of a Western nation”
From all the well though tout commentary here, this stands out to me as the central point from Walter Sieruk.
Just as in smaller places.
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elee says
Britons, your fathers’ finest hour was their heroic resistance to an anti-Semite. Did they shed their blood so freely to see this day?
infidel says
That will become the HQ of terror in the UK rightaway…
Dude says
VICTORY !!!
Submit or die, kafirs.
They will be forcing people out of the area fearing being physically harassed, sliced. Then it will spread like a virus throughout Britain.
Dumbasses!
Chistopher Watson says
There are already 2 very large mosques in London: one in Whitechapel Road and one in Regents Park. Now they want one in Piccadilly Circus. There are lots of reasons why this is a stupid idea. It is one of the busiest traffic hot spots on the planet; it is one of he busiest places for theatres and cinemas on the planet; very few muslims live in the area; to build any sort of religious centre in Piccadilly Circus is total insanity.
Rufluc says
From their point of view it is a symbol of their power. To be able to build a Mosque in a place like Piccadilly would show the world that they have ultimate power over the ‘politically correct’ poisoned West and all its liberal left Dhimmi’s, who are so readily prepared to kiss the feet and lick the a***s of their Muslim masters!
Rufluc says
This is just part and parcel of the continuous ‘creeping’ nature of this parasitic cult. They play the poor, innocent, underprivileged, victimised members of our society, whilst steadily growing in numbers, strength and in land area spread. Slowly colonising vast areas of the West as each year passes.
As stated above:
‘Some non-Muslim Westerners view Muslims as disadvantaged, oppressed, in need of help, and in general as victims. Therefore, they tolerate Muslim leaders’ excessive demands, and even aid in the fulfilment of these demands.’
In other words, the mindless pathetic lunatic leftie liberals among us fail to see what is happening before their very eyes. They are blinded by the true nature of Islam, and are totally bereft of any sense to identify its impact on our society like the rest of us are able to do,.And indeed, they prefer to aid and abet it’s evil wherever it’s influence and lies come into play.
We have seen the way tens of thousands of under aged British girls have been treated like pieces of meat whilst they are hooked on drugs,plied with alcohol, branded, beaten, tortured, gang raped and pimped out by tens of thousands of filthy, evil, deprived Muslim men. Which is exactly how they were able to do this on an industrial scale for over 40 years with total impunity…..and STILL it goes on in the UK unabated today!
This mosque MUST be opposed in every way, otherwise it will become yet another symbol and milestone marking their progressive takeover and conquest intentions to overthrow the West!
gravenimage says
UK: Locals oppose plan for mega-mosque in one of London’s most iconic buildings
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Just appalling–this is another Victory Mosque. I am at least glad to hear that there is a lot of opposition from patriotic Britons.
Dapto says
when Charles becomes king he’ll announce he reverted to Islam in the 90’s and will make England a Islamic state.
gravenimage says
Yes–things may become *even worse* in the UK under Charles.
smilie says
The day is not far for Britain and France,that they will not be in a position to oppose any misconduct or anti national activities done on the part of British Muslims,otherwise they will be termed as anti secular or anti Muslim .Just as present Indian majority and government is been criticized of.
Owen Morgan says
The whole point of a mega-mosque, of course, is to change the character of a neighbourhood beyond recognition. It is a symbol of islamic supremacy. Even though there are very few muslims (compared to other parts of London) in the Picadillly area, that would soon change, if the mosque got the go-ahead. Inconvenience and annoyance would be inflicted on non-muslims and that effect would be entirely intentional. Over time, the anti-social presence of the mosque and the influx, temporary at first, later permanent, of activist muslims would drive out residents and businesses and a famous part of central London would turn into another Bangladeshi ghetto.
James Lincoln says
Correct on all points, Owen.
Giacomo Latta says
Someone should open a pub next door and call it ”The Gay Pig.” I wouldn’t want to own any shares in its insurance provider though.
gravenimage says
Muslims are whining about this sort of thing as well, Giacomo:
“UK: Muslims enraged at plan to open bar next to mosque, claim it will lead to ‘drink-fueled Islamophobia’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/05/uk-muslims-enraged-at-plan-to-open-bar-next-to-mosque-claim-it-will-lead-to-drink-fuelled-islamophobia
Tangata says
Just follow the money trail and you’d see that Saudi,or UAE or Qatari oil money will be behind this! And behind the approvals greasing to push this through.