This is ridiculous, but that doesn’t mean it won’t work. Islamic law forbids Muslims to drink alcohol. It does not forbid them to pray in mosques that are next to bars.
“A gin bar and distillery planned for a building next to a central Chelmsford mosque could lead to an increased risk of drink–fuelled Islamophobia, objectors have claimed.”
That, too, is ridiculous. Millions of non-Muslims drink in bars, or at least they did before the world went mad, and are never overcome with “Islamophobia” as a result. The demand that this bar not be opened next to the mosque is a gesture of pure supremacism, an assertion of Islamic hegemony. Islamic law forbids the subjugated dhimmis to make public display of their religion, and also openly to display wine or pork. So the mosque goers are asserting Sharia stipulations over the non-Muslims. And in shattered, staggering, dhimmi Britain, they will likely succeed.
“Fears new Chelmsford Moulsham Street gin bar will create drink-fuelled racist attacks,” by Piers Meyler, EssexLive, May 13, 2020 (thanks to Tom):
A gin bar and distillery planned for a building next to a central Chelmsford mosque could lead to an increased risk of drink–fuelled Islamophobia, objectors have claimed.
The concerns raised ahead of a licensing meeting next week to decide the application of a new bar in Moulsham Street come three months after concerns were raised over potential plans to transform a Great Baddow leisure centre into a mosque.
Known formerly as the Farm Shop Café and then later Pause at 13 Moulsham Street, the venue is set to become a bar and shop on the ground floor, a gin distillery on the first floor and a gin school on the second floor….
A licence application has also been submitted to the council for the sale of alcohol on Thursdays from midday until midnight, Friday and Saturdays from midday until 2am and Sundays from midday until 11pm.
However the plans have sparked a slew of objections from members of the Muslim community who have worshipped at the mosque for more than 40 years.
Barbara says
More like they are worried the Mosque members will enjoy a drink after prayers.
andrew mckendrick says
Or maybe a few before prayers too.
william carr says
But a mosque on London’s Piccadilly close to Soho’s gay district will not encourage outbreaks of gay bashing or worse
Rufolino says
Any news as to whether Westminster City Council has submitted to the Piccadilly mosque plan ?
The local council for the above case will most likely cave to Moslem demands.
It’s the way the wind is blowing in the UK
martin says
You can register and leave a comment about the application – pass it on https://idoxpa.westminster.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=makeComment&keyVal=Q54UPMRPFSO00
gravenimage says
Thanks, Martin.
Verk says
Na, the preferred post-prayer of the Momo faithful is generally raping kuffar minors. Alcohol? Allah forbid!
Rev. G says
Maybe they can serve burgers and blt’s as well. Maybe name the place “Moo, ham, and meetings with Jinn.
spiro says
Don’t forget happy hour
ragged resistor. says
I suggest a non halal butcher specialising in pork applies for permission to open his business next to the mosque, time to turn the tide on old mo and his sheep/goats/camels, I see they want to have the call to prayer over loudspeaker as a daily occurrance in parts of londonistan now, guess what will be next
DHazard says
Friday nights might be a little problematic.
Westman says
Yes, with all that Islam-fueled intolerance and forbidding there will be a likely clash. Then they will play victim and decry, “Islamophobia!”
BookSheik says
I’d like to move a church to a Muslim country for the purpose of sitting and convening with all faiths. When (not if) my church is attacked I will cry out: Christophobia!!!!!! The Sharia enabling Western left will say: “You should have respected their customs etc.” When will the West demand RECIPROCAL treatment as Vladimir Putin did!!!!? Yes an Atheist ruler demanded that if a mosque will be built in Moscow a church or synagogue will be built in Mecca!!!!! Westerners have no knowledge of the faith that sustains them so they have no knowledge of how to sustain it. Non-believers are said to be legitimate and Allah-sanctioned prey for destruction. SUCKERS in the purist sense of the word. Sweden is waking up!!! Germany will soon follow Poland ain’t playing the dhimmi role at all!!!
gravenimage says
BookSheik, Putin currently claims to be a Christian.
Unfortunately, though, far from demanding reciprocal treatment, he has allowed full Shari’ah in Chechnya, including the persecution of Christians there.
Then, Putin not only allowed a mega-Mosque built in Moscow, he opened it himself alongside Erdogan and Abbas in 2015:
“Russia: Putin, Abbas and Erdogan attend inauguration of Moscow’s biggest mosque”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFpOA-HaLY4
I’m afraid you are quite mistaken about Putin–I wish you were not.
Louis Engelbrecht says
What a stange and paradox world we live in Muslimen coutries Christian and are kliied byMuslims, they have so much reason to live in contant fear for there lives. And thereagainst in the West all critrics of Islam are silenced by Islamphboia. Both ways are in favour of the Islam religion. Strange,. It is really a very strange world we live inb
Westman says
After a bit more investigation, I find the picture of the Mosque is quite misleading. It is the Mosque that is located in the wrong place; right in the middle of shops, courtyard restaurants, cobblestone terraces, and nightlife.
Use Google maps go to the Chemsford central mosque, UK, and go to the street view of the mosque on both Moulsham st. and Baddow Rd. It is the mosque that is out of line to try to prohibit more nightlife.
You can even walk down the side street(left side on map) and view the shops. Looks like a fun place, except for the mosque.
Westman says
After reading the original story, two things pop out: EssexLive is selling its own bias by hiding the fact that the mosque is in the wrong place, shops and night life in which there are many establisments offering alcoholic drinks, and that the sale of another location, the Hampton Sports and Leisure Centre, a nice, large, complex with outdoor lawn tennis and and parking, located right by newer apartment complexes, to the Muslim organization, will not have enough parking for the attendees who pack like dominos for prayers. There will be some conflicts with the neighbors on Fridays.
And one can be certain that the muslim organization will not be playing lawn tennis, rather, it will be pressuring the local zoning authority to expand the building by 3 times the current size or turn some of the beautiful lawn into asphalt. Then what, broadcast the adhan? The neighbors are about to lose what was a pleasant view and a bit of sanity.
Giacomo Latta says
At the end of the evening visitors to which establishment will leave the more”drunk?”
Robn Searle says
People don’t need a drink to realise how evil Islam is.
elee says
No shariah zones in the First World!
Eur says
No first world in sharia zones(all the world)…thats our terrible future.
Anjuli Pandavar says
I lived in London in the early 90s, and frequently heard white working class people demand in frustration, usually in incidents involving black people, Muslims, or any foreigners, “Whose f*cking country is this?” I thought such people racist and despised them. Now I’m no longer sure.
My immediate reaction to reading this piece was “Whose f*cking country is this?” And as much as I know about Islam and understand about Muslims, this kind of thing hits right to the gut, and I feel things and think things that I will not write on someone else’s website.
Henry Mansfield says
I’ve been in the US military and traveled for work, and in both cases there was some coaching before ever setting foot in another man’s country.
Even then, simple ignorance for local custom can contribute to the ‘ugly American’ image.
Muslim’s know damn well that nobody outside the Third World agrees with their stances, they talk out of both sides of their mouth because they can claim Islamophobia whenever the heat is on them.
Dude says
Hey. Islamophobia is your goal: fill their hearts with terror. If you want to blame someone, blame him. We do.
gravenimage says
What?
Dude says
8:12. SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
“I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.”
gravenimage says
Ah–right you are, Dude.
4dmin says
12. Your Lord inspired the angels: “I am with you, so support those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. So strike above the necks, and strike off every fingertip of theirs.”
PRCS says
“could”
Only one way to find out: open the bar and see what happens!
What? Makes too much sense, you say?
keith O says
Yeah, open the bar and open a eatery on the other side that specializes in pork ribs.
Make sure the smoke from the cooking blows into the jihadi barracks.
John says
And have a Gun Range next door also .
Henry Mansfield says
Are they afraid that a pub full of blokes will hear of yet another Muslim pedophile grooming gang and fly into an alcohol-fueled rage when they see some of the pious Muslim perpetrators in the parking lot?
Chrissie01 says
they stand a good chance of getting preferential treatment – because they are the much-to-be-pitied and persecuted minority.
Why such preferential treatment is granted everywhere – I really do wonder and keep throwing that question into the ring.
Why no Hinduism? Why not Christianity?
Why Islam?
What’s the point?
Thomas F Mills says
Who cares what these moronic twits think ? If they don’t like it go home. Why is so hard for people to realize islam is Fascism not a Religeon
John says
islam is a Barbaric Totalitarian Ideology of Male SAVAGES , will never fit into Civilised Nations . just BAN IT NOW.
prebangian says
is “drink–fueled Islamophobia” similar to Islam-fueled Infidelophobia”
Wellington says
“…Muslims enraged….”
Aren’t they always? Enough already with accommodating the fools (or worse) who adhere to this putrid religion. NO special leeway should be given to Muslims and they should be widely looked upon as the religious version of Nazis—the master faith shit versus the master race shit and all such effing nonsense.
Only when Islam is mocked, and mocked extensively, will any sane solution to dealing with this horrible religion begin to fall into place. Yes indeed, mocking evil forms a very important part of eventually eradicating evil.
I’ll put it another way: If you are a Muslim, there is something wrong with you. And if you are a non-Muslim who defends Islam there is something wrong with you.
Islam has aberration written all over it. My God, this is so obvious and yet so many, both Muslim and non-Muslim, remain blind to this self-evident verity that is staring them in the face.
James Lincoln says
Wellington says,
“If you are a Muslim, there is something wrong with you. And if you are a non-Muslim who defends Islam there is something wrong with you.”
Well put, that’s a keeper!
jayell says
Strange, I never thought that the nice old market town of Chelmsford, with its own Cathedral, would be desecrated by a mosque, still less the leafy nearby suburb of Great Baddow (used to be a respectable Essex village about 100 years ago). Yet here they are, the Disciples of the Great Pophet, just moved into the place and already throwing their weight around as usual. Shame that their comprehension of the English language is typically so bad that they still don’t realise that ‘islamophobia’ doesn’t exist, although they may have a point that a small minority of the patrons of the proposed bar might just forget to be their usual civilised selves if they’ve been celebrating a little too much. One thing is very clear from this, however; this action of theirs seems to demonstrate that perhaps they might just realise that Mr, Mrs. and Ms Average in the UK don’t really like them very much, or else they wouldn’t be getting nervous about the prospect of any antisocial behaviour. Now, I always thought that the usual civilised response to situations where one finds oneself causing annoyance or friction with others might be to (a) make oneself scarce, or (b) keep a low profile and avoid antagonising others or/and (c) modify one’s behaviour so that one avoids causing dislike or irritation. Sadly none of those seem to have occurred to our muslim friends, because attempting to.disrupt planning permission for a venue in a public street that would probably be very welcome to the vast majority of the local population purely for one’s own selfish motives doesn’t seem to be the best way to make friends, does it? Perhaps they think there’s some sort history in the UK of dubious relationships between hostelries and religious buildings? Well, here’s a funny thing; we’ve had churches and pubs virtually on top of each other for centuries here in the UK, and I believe that not far from where I am there’s a synagogue with a pub just up the road, and never a suggestion of any trouble. Yet the muslims arrive – and the good people of Chelmsford apparently have to be made aware that they’ve arrived even though no-one actually invited them. It’s difficult to understand the mentality of those who don’t appreciate how easy it is to outstay one’s welcome when one wasn’t really welcomed in the first place.
Wellington says
I learn from reading your “on the ground,” posts, jayell, about conditions in England because of that monumental nuisance which Islam creates in all Western nations (and yes, I know I should properly not refer to “England” but the UK but what the hell).
Tell me, have the English reached a boiling point yet, not only with Muslims but with pathetic non-Muslim excuse makers for the worst religion of all time like the clueless snobs who run the BBC and the MP rubes in Parliament whatever their party adherence?
Do you see any end to this nonsense? I certainly hope so, though I often fear matters have gone beyond a “retrieval point” for the England Winston Churchill did everything he could (successfully) to save it from the secular version of Islam which was Nazism. I very much hope I am wrong in this conjecture. Would love to be.
As an American from the across the Pond, I wish traditional England well (what’s left of it).
As ever I remain
Incorrigibly, defiantly and non-Islamically yours,
Wellington
gravenimage says
And note that this Mosque looks like a Christian building that Muslims took over.
BookSheik says
I’d be happy if they’d hold their “peace” and assimilate like everyone else!
David says
I only have one word for your post, BRILLIANT.
As the mus said recently regarding blasting calls to bow etc, out over the locals, “Get used to it” The smell of gin brewing, bubbling away, making evil (lol)
Dave from San Antonio says
Don’t like it. Go find a country where drinking is prohibited and move there.
gravenimage says
They want to force the entire world to submit to Shari’a law.
Old Fat Bald Socially Inept Ron says
What would the owners and patrons of a forty year old pub, or BBQ be accused of if they were voicing objection to having a mosque moving In right next door?
RACISTS !!!
BIGOTS !!!
Two way streets don’t exist in Islam.
Rob R (Brit stuck in Britainistan) says
Oh look. Here’s exactly the kind of clash of interests that “islamophobes” have been warning about for at least a decade if not more.
If Brits and Muslims can’t live side by side without obvious conflicts like this, who thought it was a good idea to try and put them together?
Rob R (Brit stuck in Britainistan) says
Not a lot of coverage of this one on UK TV or radio… just a small article in local press it seems!
Brits can’t handle dark and unpleasant realities like this and they shout down anyone who tries to talk about them, using the word…”racist”..
tim gallagher says
I believe, given all the endless Muslim terrorist attacks and Muslim violence, that the bar and distillery, and the non-Muslims there, will be in danger and that there would not be any problem with “Islamophobia”. The Muslims always whinge about the threat of attacks from non-Muslims, but it is almost always the violent Muslims who attack the non-Muslims. This strikes me as being the usual crap, the usual rubbish about how Muslims are the victims. I don’t know why anyone swallows such garbage. I would definitely be concerned that the Muslims who attend this mosque will attack this proposed bar.
James Lincoln says
tim,
This feature article made me think of an analogy…
I was in the grocery store the other day getting ready to buy a pork chop.
I had this feeling that in the near future, a muslim may approach me and say something like: “You can’t buy that because it is against my religion.”
I would reply: “But it’s not against my religion”.
And then he would say: “But my religion is the one that counts.”
Wellington says
That day’s ‘acomin, James, if we allow Islam to prevail. And no IPA either.
tim gallagher says
Spot on, James. In Muslim countries, there is never any tolerance, never any give and take. Anywhere that islam takes over, it is disaster for all the non-Muslims. I’ve been struck for years now by the way that the tolerance is all one way. So many people in our societies seem to be constantly falling over themselves to prove how nice and tolerant they are towards Muslims, but the attitude is never returned by the incessant whiners, the Muslims. As Wellington mentions, if Islam ever does get the upper hand in our societies, life will be hardly worth living for all of us non-members of the barbaric cult.
mortimer says
The bar is more likely to support DRINK-FUELED JIHAD. Muslims I’ve met love beer.
mortimer says
Allah wants Islamophobia and tells Muslims to create it in the hearts of the dirty kufaar through jihad.
The Islamophobia accusation is a classic case of ‘blame the victim’.
Phil Copson says
“…. or else they wouldn’t be getting nervous about the prospect of any antisocial behaviour….”
—————————————————————————————————————–
They aren’t “getting nervous about it” – they’re highly delighted at being granted this wonderful opportunity to throw their weight about / play victim / demand preferential treatment / make the unbelievers bow to their will.
gravenimage says
Yep.
gravenimage says
UK: Muslims enraged at plan to open bar next to mosque, claim it will lead to “drink-fueled Islamophobia”
……………….
More calumny against civilized Infidels, and attempts to enforce Islamic norms on the unbelievers in their own nations.
PRCS says
Whether one thinks of Islam as just a religion, or a theocracy, it is an ideology, a belief. its only provable facts:are (1) the very hateful, scientifically flawed Qur’an and ‘the faith’s’ other texts do exist and (2) a billion+ human beings–around the world–believe them to be true.
What he ideology teaches, like a never fired gun, is physically harmless Muslims who carry out its hateful passages are what ‘filthy unbelievers’ actually fear.
The term ‘Anti-Muslim’, though so many oppose it, is the reality.
smooth lee says
You don’t need to be alcoholically infueled to be opposed to islamism.
gravenimage says
So true. I rarely drink, and I hate Islam.
tgusa says
A bar on one side a pulled pork sandwich shop on the other sounds good. If they want to enforce their culture customs and practices on us lets give it back to them by enforcing ours on them. No more of the one way street regarding culture customs and practices.
Michael Copeland says
A large mosque is proposed at Piccadilly Circus, where there are many bars.
Could the Chelmsford muslims send in their objections?
AnnChristine says
I am so vey pleased that I have experienced life before Mass Immigration 30 Years ago——West Indians came in the 1950’s——–People complained but these people never demanded we change our lives for them
They integrated and we all got on with what we were doing——Now ISLAM are here taking advantage at every step of the way——-I know for sure If we are fortunate enough to know When or If ISLAM leave our beautiful Islands ———-They most certainly will MISS our company and everything they have abused——We of course will put the Flags out Have Parties galore and we will never ever MISS ISLAM We are Christians and UK is a Christian Country
GOLDMANN says
Ann , England is not a Christian country anymore ,not for the last 25’ys. ? I hope they get permission to have a gin bar. Loads of Muslims drink after they have killed people !! Hypocrites!!? And take drugs ,just proves the Religion is RUBBISH AND FALSE .??
No Muzzies Here says
“Muslims enraged.” What else is new? They wake up enraged. They are taught that violence and anger are the proper responses to any slight, no matter how insignificant. That alone disqualifies them from living in civilized countries.
libertyORdeath says
As usual the muslims are victims even before anything happens. What a slippery slope the U.K. is currently sliding down.
Esme says
Good news – the council granted the licence for the Gin bar and school.
Plus the mosque expansion is in financial trouble
https://www.savethehamptons.co.uk/a-real-tonic-and-gin-for-moulsham-st?fbclid=IwAR2m43iTUTZeWjsdJLMGp0O44i0zVx3lRHliYFWMBVm9r8KHeZDcZQzqcDs
gravenimage says
So good to hear, Esme! Thank you.
David says
Delighted to read this news. Well done, keep the gin pot boiling, 24/7
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
“A gin bar and distillery planned for a building next to a central Chelmsford mosque could lead to an increased risk of drink–fuelled Islamophobia, objectors have claimed.”
Well then muslims should understand how we feel about their mosques, mosques that worship a demon god that commands terror against unbelievers, anti-Western sentiments, and a host of human rights abuses that are 100 years behind the times.
Muslims can be remarkably hypocritical, they feel totally justified in seeing the worst in a perfectly legal drinking establishment, but g-d forbid we should even question islam’s violent doctrines in the context of all the terror they do against gays, unbelievers, children and women, and human rights in general. Yes, drinking establishments come with their own set of problems, but they are infinitely better than those mosques that worship and teach violent and hateful teachings as divine truth. “Islamophobia” is just a hyperbolic term invented by these supremacists and their leftist allies to diminish our justified fears of islam’s violent supremacist agenda. If we non-muslims react in fear it’s for a good reason, and the reason is islam’s 1400 year history of violence and hate for allah up to the present day. I got a suggestion, muslims, clean up your own house first, like the murder in your own religion and the terror it inspires, and the sexual mutilation of girls and misogyny in general, the hatred and too often murder of gays, apostates, and other religions. Then I promise you, people will listen to your criticisms of those wanting a little “drinky” merriment and togetherness in a bar or lounge. Sound fair? my little religious hypocrites that can’t see the forest for the trees.
OLD GUY says
Islam can’t stand up to criticism, so anything that is said negative no matter how true can not be spoken about islam or Muhammad. Muslims always bring up islamophobia to stop freedom of speech when it comes to something or someone they don’t like. One thing for sure they can’t hide the violence, hate and terror that islam has created towards mankind and if pointing those atrocities out is islamophobia that means the truth and history of the world has to be rewritten to meet Islam’s needs. Sounds like Islam follows the rules of most dictatorships change history and silence any one or group that disagree with it’s ideology.
FYI says
And what about the increased risk of ‘islam-fueled infidelophobia’?
That usually happens in the neighborhoods where they build their mosques.
Bring back Noise Pollution Laws and enforce them.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
When the move was on to build the Ground Zero mosque was when I first heard of Greg Gutfeld. He suggest that the properties either side of the mosque be made into porno bars, preferably with shemales undulating in the windows in a slow rhythmic sex dance. I’ve loved the guy ever since.
Woke Infidel says
If you move into Western countries, you have to expect to run into Western democracy…the bar has as much “right” to exist as the mosque, and in a democracy they may exist side by side. The complaint is groundless. But, we’ll see what happens.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; In uino ueritas, and that is what Muhammadanism fears.
Move the Mosque.