Once they get out, they will become loyal, stable, productive members of German society, no?
No. Because nothing whatsoever will be done while they are in prison to try to ensure that. The Islamic principles that likely contributed to their thinking this was acceptable behavior will not be challenged; to do so would be “Islamophobic.” What are those principles? A survivor of a Muslim rape gang in the UK has previously said that her rapists would quote Quran to her, and believed their actions justified by Islam. Thus it came as no surprise when Muslim migrants in France raped a girl and videoed the rape while praising Allah and invoking the Qur’an. And the victim of an Islamic State jihadi rapist recalled: “He told me that according to Islam he is allowed to rape an unbeliever. He said that by raping me, he is drawing closer to God…He said that raping me is his prayer to God.”
The Qur’an teaches that Infidel women can be lawfully taken for sexual use (cf. its allowance for a man to take “captives of the right hand,” 4:3, 4:24, 23:1-6, 33:50, 70:30). The Qur’an says: “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.” (33:59) The implication there is that if women do not cover themselves adequately with their outer garments, they may be abused, and that such abuse would be justified.
But none of this can be spoken in Europe today.
“This is the punishment for the accused of gang rape in the Laupheim solar park,” translated from “Das ist die Strafe für die Angeklagten der Gruppenvergewaltigung im Laupheimer Solarpark,” by Laura Liboschik, SWP.de, May 27, 2020 (thanks to Medforth):
For Judge Franz Bernhard it is clear: on November 13, 2019, the three men, at the age of 19, 20 and 32 years, raped a 14-year-old and sexually assaulted her 13-year-old friend. They did this in Laupheim, in the Vorholz solar park on the B30. All three were sentenced to prison terms of several years.
Victims were rendered lacking in will by means of alcohol and drugs
The men, who have been in pre-trial detention since the crime, admitted to the sexual acts, but they said they were consensual and that the girls did not tell them their age. “We don’t believe that,” said Judge Franz Bernhard in the justification for the judgment. According to the court, the 14-year-old girl had been rendered lacking in will – through alcohol and drugs. She even vomited several times and fell asleep.
According to the court, that night the two girls asked on social media about where they could do something. As a result, the three men now convicted reportedly responded. They picked up the girls at night and took them to the garage in the Laupheim solar park on the B30. There they then committed sexual assault on the victims.
These are the punishments for rape in Laupheim
The oldest defendant, 32 at the time, was sentenced to a total of 3 years and 6 months for a violation of the Narcotics Act and for sexual acts on the 14-year-old girl. He had also rented the garage in the solar park where the deed took place.
The judge sentenced the youngest perpetrator, aged 19 at the time, to 3.6 years – both for rape and other sexual acts with the 14-year-old. Also because of the sexual abuse of children on the 13-year-old, who had to watch her friend’s rape. However, he was convicted under juvenile justice provisions. The personality of the Syrian has significant deficits, both “in terms of his image of women as well as in education and language,” said the judge.
The district court of Ravensburg sentenced the then-20-year-old brother to 3 years and 6 months under adult criminal law. This was because of the sexual abuse of children to the detriment of the 13-year-old, and because of sexual acts with her 14-year-old friend.
Two other men aged 27 and 34 were said to have been present. They were investigated for failure to intervene and for drug-related offenses. They are still at large, since the conditions for an arrest warrant have not been met.
DHazard says
This unjust sentencing is still at least something. Elsewhere the girls would be found guilty of zina and sentenced to stoning. Fortunately common human nature usually supersedes Allah’s rules in these kind of cases (gang rape without 4 male witnesses).
gravenimage says
Well, yes–Germany is still better than Shari’ah hell holes.
I believe this is the very definition of damning with faint praise…
tim gallagher says
The sentences in Germany are too light, but, what you outline there, DHazard, about the truly bizarre “justice” that islam would impose ( you know, stone the female victim, etc) shows how totally sick, warped and just downright insane islam is. Islam’s view of things is off the planet insanity. How anyone thinks that barbaric Islam can fit into our western societies is completely beyond my understanding. 100% incompatibility with our societies’ far better values.
Debbie A. says
You are absolutely correct. If not stoning, then buried and stoned. I e seen videos of very young girls in school uniforms Stones to death by many men. Dispicable.
william carr says
“that night the two girls asked on social media about where they could do something” In other words they advertised themselves on social media as available to sexual predators. This is an important point that many here are missing. Should they have been raped? no of course not, but I am sure teenagers these days are not so dumb as to meet strangers unsupervised and not understand what can happen. For Muslim men being alone with women not related by kinship or marriage is an invitation to sex. This should be taught in schools and by parents but of course that would be ‘islamofauxbic’ (sic). This going on all the time in Europe and this is how it starts.
gravenimage says
Germany: Muslim migrants rape 14-year-old, sexually assault 13-year-old, get 3 1/2 years prison
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Ludicrous short sentences. And will these Muslim rapists be deported after they get out? I doubt it…
ArmyAviator says
Germany is THE place to commt CRIMES…if you are a Muslim!
gravenimage says
Oh, I don’t know–Sweden, Britain, France, and the Netherlands are pretty “good”, too…
Wellington says
Enshrined in the Islamic theological blueprint is the sanctioning of rape under certain “conditions.”
This is sick stuff and no religion should EVER sanction rape under ANY conditions.
But Islam does, and as can be found in Suras 4, 23, 33, and 70. “Captives of the right hand” rot.
And, as well, Islam in its theory (and so often times in practice) also sanctions death for apostasy (e.g., Sura 4:89) and even death or severe bodily harm for any criticism of Islam, Mohammed or the Koran and as upheld by every major school of Islamic theology, Sunni or Shiite, to this very day, for instance the four major Sunni schools—the Hanafi, Hanbali, Shafi and Maliki.
To all Muslims I assert the following: Your religion is a farce of a religion; it is sick to its core and has been from its inception. I am no more interested in Islam being reformed than I am in Nazism or Marxism being reformed. Take it from here.
TruthSeeker says
The girls won’t be even 18 and these guys will be out of prison. Congrats Germany for showing the world how easy it is to rape German girls and not stay locked up too long.
mortimer says
Let us all be ‘Islamophobic’ if that is the right word for this. Let us all tell Muslims that the Koran is obviously of human origin. The Koran makes errors that are historical, logical, grammatical and ethical.
The cruel Bronze Age moral system of the Koran makes it unsuitable for the human rights concerns that we cherish in the 21st century.
The Koran is the work of a 7th century highwayman and slavetrader from the driest, most hostile climate on earth.
Lakshmi says
Shame Germany for letting ur kids down
mortimer says
ISLAM’S TRADITIONAL RAPE CULTURE IS WELL KNOWN TO MUSLIMS MALES
… it is their interest to know …
The Islamic RAPE CULTURE has an unbroken chain of authority that goes back continuously through 1400 years to Mohammed. Mohammed only punished a man for raping a Muslim woman (but not a kafir) in one of the hadiths. Raping a non-Muslim is never a crime. It is no more than perhaps a misdemeanor at most…that can be ‘paid off’ if necessary, but usually, it would be considered ‘the kafir woman’s fault’.
Sharia law contains no punishment for this crime when a Muslim male rapes a kafir.
The basic principle is that non-dhimmis have chosen to reject Islam and are ‘at war’ with Islam. The term is ‘kafir harbi’. The property, person and honor of a ‘kafir harbi’ are ‘mubaa’ or licit to the jihadist. It is in other words ‘permitted’ or ‘licit’ to dishonor a ‘kafir harbi’. Non-Muslim women who are not submitted to Islam would fit the description of ‘kafir harbi’, so they may be raped freely.
RonaldB says
The appropriate focus here is German law and German enforcement. Apparently, German law is very heavy on requirements for the woman to say “no” and very light on penalties for rape. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36726095
I would guess that a big factor was the interaction of the girls with the rapists before the rape actually occurred. Apparently, there was some texting back and forth. Once the girls became incoherent with drugs and alcohol, the rapists could claim they thought the girls were consenting.
In my opinion, the Germans are suffering from ossification of the law and of their desire to maintain their culture. I can see the same trend in the US, where black rioters and ANTIFA vandals are treated with kid gloves because a couple of rogue cops killed an unresisting suspect and were duly charged with murder. I can see no circumstances where a 13-year old girl can be mistaken for being able to give consent. It’s time to tip to the other side, and start imprisoning rape-gang Muslims for long periods, giving the benefit of the doubt to their victims. Will the Germans do this, or are they too far gone towards cultural ennui? I don’t know.
gravenimage says
These are young minors–they cannot give consent, and the rapists knew they were *way* underage.
Adam says
Must be one of those “moderate-Nazi” and “moderate-muslime” things. Different cultures can be so hard to understand sometimes.
I’m working on it.
Peter WF says
The message from the administration –
Citizen children are expendable. There are plenty of migrants to take their place.
Thomas says
Sickening.
Jyoti Prakash Mitra says
In Europe, natural citizens must interact with Mullahs ‘conditionally’ or else must not meet them. There is no need & Christianity will survive. Only prison term will not reduce Sharia led rapes & murders. Mullahs are after keeping a mark of the Sharia in European values. To deal politically, punishments must be scrutinized. It’s clear in Jihad that rapes are mandatory.
ploome says
but Merkel is taking a firm position
Germany’s Angela Merkel turned down Trump’s G7 Summit invitation over coronavirus concerns – or whatever
but muslims raping German children can be tolerated
smart Germans-they have appropriate government
Jake2169 says
All over Europe this is being seen as “acceptable” because the cowardly authorities want the public to see these acts as being a part of normal multiculturalism. The governments with the unabated support of the Mainstream Media want people to look on these heinous acts by Muslims as ordinary life in today’s modern world. The fact that these crimes are being committed by followers of the backward religion of Islam is brushed under the carpet. The authorities know that they made the biggest mistake in the history of the world by allowing Muslims to take a foothold in their countries and then begin to make demands seems to have been overlooked by the so called intelligent political classes. As a result of their gross stupidity many of our young girls will be subjected to rape, abuse, and mistreatment at the hands of these sub humans and the predators will get a free get out of jail card. If they aren’t freed, some limp-wristed, terrified judge will hand down a pitiful jail sentence, where once inside they’ll get together with other Muslims and plan their next campaign.
James Lincoln says
Jake2169 says,
“The authorities know that they made the biggest mistake in the history of the world by allowing Muslims to take a foothold in their countries…”
Some authorities do recognize the mistake, some still do not.
After all, muslim migrants are STILL flooding into Western Europe…
Rufolino says
Out of interest James, which authorities DO recognise their mistake in letting Moslem migrants flood in ? I can’t think of any.
Not the UK. A recent Prime Minister said Moslems made “a fantastic contribition” to the life of the nation. “Fantastic”, yes, but not in the sense he meant.
Roger Woodhouse says
Our governments are to weak to admit they got it wrong.Whenever will we get an appology for this heinous crime against the people of the West? Like the corona virus which will be proven in time to have been a massive overeaction ,no one will be blamed.Jake is 100% correct.There will be hundreds killed in the coming civil war but still no one will be blamed.
Henry Mansfield says
As riots envelop the USA over a minority dying soon after being arrested I wonder why riots don’t take place in majority-white countries after the hundredth time in a few months people see a three sentence summary of rape jihad against children in their newspapers.
Don Ameche says
I agree. It’s beginning to appear the German’s ( Europeans in general perhaps) really don’t care at all about their own people, their own families and their own children.
After hundreds of events like this and nothing is even said about it….. I don’t know how else to interpret it.
Linde Barrera says
Perhaps the people in the German government today “identify” with the rapists and look the other way, not wanting to cause trouble since a thousand years ago the barbaric tribes in Germany raped and pillaged also. Not being sarcastic here, but could some Germans see this as “identity politics” akin to their own genetic background from centuries ago? There are many Germans who feel guilt for the Holocaust and other historic barbaric events as well, yet most Germans alive today were not even born when the barbaric Holocaust was taking place.
gravenimage says
Linde, no sane person has to feel guilty over what their ancestors did over a thousand years ago.
Roger Woodhouse says
The problem is that ‘the people in the West ‘have been ‘conditioned ‘by decades of leftwing brainwashing.Their abilty to ‘discriminate’between right from ‘wrong’has been illiminated.They only accept wooly minded teachings to the extent that ‘criticisism’ of any kind toward our ‘leaders’is a punishable offence.Their brains have been addled by a constant stream of pap by the MSM .Trumps attempt to ‘drain the swamp’is totally lost on them.
Bhaskar Mittal says
Europeans are mediocre. They should actually have given death in public place.
ehdillon@charter.net says
No excuse for being soft on child rapist. These are the worst type of criminals and need to be dealt with severally not patted on the head and told to be good boys. 20 years and castration seem more appropriate if you want to discourage this behavior.