“Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not.” (Qur’an 2:216)
“Philadelphia Islamic Scholar Nafis Abu Zayd Sparrow On George Floyd Protests: Demonstrations Are Useless; Real Revolution Requires Bloodshed, African-Americans Must Fight For Land, Jews Have Their Own ‘Police State’ In NY,” MEMRI, June 2, 2020:
On June 2, 2020 Philadelphia Islamic scholar Nafis Abu Zayd Sparrow uploaded a video to the Maktabah Ibn Taymiyyah YouTube channel in which he shared his thoughts about the protests surrounding the death of George Floyd. He said that there is no basis in the Quran for demonstrations, for “spitting in the faces” of people in power, or for saying bad things about President Trump. Comparing the black community to the Children of Israel, whom he said would kill their own prophets, he said that one must fight in order to attain freedom and that this is what had been advocated and spoken about by Malcolm X, whom he said had been the leader that had adhered most closely to the Quran and the Sunnah. Sparrow said that if people who are fed up with the system want to make a difference, they must become a formidable and respected foe. He explained that it takes some “real fighting” to stand up, that revolution requires bloodshed, and that America’s indigenous blacks should fight for their own land, similar to how Asians have Chinatown and how the Jews in New York have their own “police state.” Sparrow elaborated that he is “all for” doing what Malcolm X had advocated, and he said that since people are not ready for any form of Jihad, they should be quiet, supplicate to Allah, and inspire others. Sparrow was formerly an imam of Masjid Tawbah in Philadelphia but was dismissed due to “attacks and slandering of known Salafis,” according to the mosque’s Twitter account. He currently runs the Maktabah Ibn Taymiyyah Islamic library and learning center and he is also affiliated with the 5:2 Initiative. For more about Nafis Abu Zayd Sparrow see MEMRITV clip #8661.
Nafis Abu Zayd Sparrow: “Even scholars of the past, they mention clearly that there is nothing found – no basis whatsoever – in the Quran or the Sunnah for demonstrations or protests.
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“When Allah told [Moses] to go back to deal with this tyrannical ruler, to deal with this tyrannical system – did He tell him to spit in their faces? Did He tell him to stand outside and do public demonstrations? Did He tell him to behave a certain way – to clown the President, make up all types of memes, say this about the president because it is the way you feel? Did He say to do all of that, and talk bad about Pharaoh?
[…]
“So all of this Tweeting, speaking, celebrities – don’t follow them. ‘F Trump,’ that sounds good… Don’t follow them.
[…]
“To get freedom, brothers, it takes fighting, I’m sorry, unless you have got divine intervention.
[…]
“Moses didn’t need an army to fight. But go to Muhammad. Didn’t Muhammad have to fight? Go to all the prophets before – get your verses at the verses – did they not have to fight?
[…]
“I challenge you, show me where your power to vote ever changed anything. ‘Oh, we got Obama into office’ – and what did Obama do? Show me! People are not listening. We, as Muslims, have to use our insight. Show me!
[…]
“I am saying that if you want to separate from the racism, from those people that are embedded with racism – then you have to remove yourself from the system itself and you have to create your system within the system. That is what I am saying. And you have to become a formidable foe. And since we are not going to do that, we have yet to do that, and we have not shown to do that – then can you please stop with these senseless causing-more-harm-than-benefit demonstrations and being somebody’s guinea pig. That’s what I mean – a public demonstration within a public demonstration. They set you up and they put you there and use your call, your outcry and your outrage to make their own agenda. Then they bring other people, anarchists, Antifa, whatever you want to call them – different people came out and they all exploited the George Floyd situation.
[…]
“But if you truly want to stand up then it’s going to take some real fighting, and that is what Malcolm X was saying. It’s going to take some blood-shedding – that is what Malcolm X was saying. Because revolution is land and that is what it is about. You are fighting for land. That is what you are fighting for. And if you really want that, that is what you are going to have to do. Power respects power.
[…]
“We have a protocol in Islam already for how this is supposed to be done.
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“You gave Chinatown [sic] a Chinatown. You gave the Jews a whole police state in New York – think about it. All these other different minorities – you gave them things that they can do within their respective lands – you just didn’t give it to the indigenous black person.
[…]
“Where are you on the frontline? What skill are you utilizing to put forth to fight against this oppressive regime? You are not even talking about that. You haven’t… You are probably out of shape. You haven’t even put yourself in shape. You are probably not ready for any form of Jihad – period.
[…]
“You really want to do it? Then go back, listen to what Malcolm X said, and let’s do it – and I am all for it, if you want to do that. But if you are not, and I know we are not – and we are nowhere near that – then what we need to do is be quiet, inshallah, offer supplications and be an inspiration to others.”
Dude says
And the decentants of the slaves should listen to the one that divined slavery, murder, robbery and rape as desirable for mankind?
Is this cleric nuts? No, he’s just suffering from delusions of grandeur, the psychotic requisite to embrace this abominable desert cult.
revereridesagain says
He’s also reading the writing on the wall and knows there are enough blacks in the BLM movement who will take the advice of the historic enslavers of African blacks because their own mindless hatred of whites and Jews is more compelling. At least, for now.
Wellington says
+1.
Yes, this turkey is a very confused person, but then all Muslims are (and especially black Muslims and most especially black Muslim women).
Wow, when Antifa and BLM are still not enough, per this black Muslim “thinker,” you know that person is functioning in Bizarro World, which actually would be an appropriate synonym to describe Islam, to wit, it’s Bizzaroism.
I would add here, having been born in Philadelphia, this black Muslim turkey spouting separationist nonsense (and other nonsense) is as far away from the man who founded Pennsylvania, one William Penn, as you can get. Instructive and telling that a 17th century man was far more enlightened than this 21st century man.
Thanks again, Islam, for not addressing the “better angels of our nature.” Islam never has. It never will. Islam drags down the human species all the while asserting that it is uplifting it. What a lie, what a crock of shit, perhaps the greatest lie over the longest period of time in man’s history.
Sad, tragic and destructive beyond virtually all measure. That’s Islam for you. No doubt.
Thanks for nothing, Islam. And, oh, btw, the character of Mohammed is that of a delusional, psychopathic, narcissistic and brutal man, though a very clever malevolent figure. Well, cleverness and malevolence have often gone hand in hand. Think Stalin. Think Hitler. Think Mao. And most definitely think Mohammed.
James Lincoln says
Wellington says,
“Islam…perhaps the greatest lie over the longest period of time in man’s history.
100% true. At least the Nazi lies were time-limited.
I’d like to include a quote by Joseph Goebbels minister of propaganda for the German Third Reich under Adolf Hitler.: On the “Big Lie”
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/joseph-goebbels-on-the-quot-big-lie-quot
Rufolino says
Isn’t there a thing called “sedition”, inciting violence against the state ? There used to be. Isn’t this imam guilty of it ? Or maybe I’m dreaming.
David says
Black Lies Matter!
James Lincoln says
You hit my funny bone, David!
Sabri S. says
More generalized rubbish. If Islam was so bad, why did the world NOT have these problems in the middle east prior to the forced creation of Israel. As I have been to both New York and Phliadelphia, I can attest to the business and educational acumen of jews and asians. Marching, so called civil rights, voting and protesting have done NOTHING for african-americans. In the 1960s, weak minded blacks sat at counters and begged racists for cold coffee and stale donuts – and they called it a Civil Rights Movement. That was laughable then and it is even more ridiculous in 2020. Blacks in America, whose free labor helped build the wealth of America will get nowhere until they one:
1) educate themselves and create their own economy
2) Arm themselves en masse, and be willing to take up arms against the racist police
3) stop being colonized by Christianity, and take down that picture of Cesare Borgia, commonly called Jesus from their home walls…..it is NOT Jesus, whose skin was black and who spoke hebrew and Aramaic, of which neither language had the letter J. His name is Yeshua.
4) Learn their real history, and not from the perspective of former slave owners either.
Sure, there was the Arab slave trade. However, slavery has existed since the beginning of mankind. And no one tops America or Israel in terms of enslaving the world and their history of fomenting misery wherever they go in the world. Islam is the future in America and it is none too soon. It is a better way, especially for the oppressed and downtroden in the world.
Ecosse1314 says
Wow.sub-saharan jews in the first century middle-east. FYI Jesus would be neither white nor black.probably olive skinned.
Giacomo Latta says
”business and educational acumen of jews and asians”
Well, those are two huge sins right there. As Archie Bunker would have said, they might not be in the top ten but they are definitely sins. As for being taken into slavery, where are your shackle marks, sport?
Wellington says
Sabri S. The world has had a problem with Islam from its inception. It is the only religion that calls upon its believers to make war upon humanity “until all religion is with Allah.” {Sura8:39} Well over a hundred passages in that wretched, sometimes incoherent work, the Koran, call for force to be used to spread Islam. Disgusting.
As for your take on the Civil Rights movement in he 1950’s and 1960’s, it was quite successful, including the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. For you to assert that this civil rights movement accomplished virtually nothing is ludicrous on its face. It transformed America and made blacks completely equal under the law. And speaking of law, what about Sharia, which guarantees permanent second-class status to non-Muslims wherever Islam dominates? Islam is one of the most discriminatory systems anywhere on earth. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
As for blacks educating themselves and being a healthy part of the American economy, are you not aware there are millions of well educated blacks in America who are physicians, lawyers, bankers, businessmen, teachers, etc.? Your ignorance is stunning—or is it your mendacity? Not sure.
Your call for blacks to arm themselves is a call to violence and is reprehensible. But it is so fitting considering that Islam’s resort to violence has been a feature of it from its warped, brutal founder onward.
Colonized by Christianity? No black in America is forced to be a Christian nor if a black ceases to be a Christian does he have to worry about being killed, contra anyone leaving Islam for which the penalty to this very day is death (e.g., Sura 4:89—“those who leave the way of Allah seize them and kill them”).
As for Jesus being black, you’re a moron. Jesus was Jewish, born to Jewish parents. And so what about the letter “J?” Transcriptions into other languages often result in alphabetical adjustments. Your pathetic attempt at linguistics is risible.
Islam tops the Western world easily so where slavery is concerned. First of all, Islam began enslaving people, including black Africans, as far back as the seventh century, while the Western world began this hideous practice only in the fifteenth century. Moreover, the Western world was the first civilization to realize slavery was wrong and took all kinds of measures to end it. Islam never on its own accord ended slavery. It was forced to by the West (e.g., the British Navy and Army doing a great deal to end African slavery). Moreover, the West has profusely apologized for slavery while the Islamic world has NEVER apologized. The West also did not castrate black male slaves but the Islamic world did. I don’t need any hypocritical Muslim preaching to me about slavery.
So much of what you wrote, Sabri S., is true rubbish, so you were just engaging in projection when you accused me of writing rubbish. Those who adhere to an iniquitous ideology, like Islam, regularly engage in projection. You certainly did.
As for America and Israel, they are two of the brightest lights in the world. America is indeed, as Abraham Lincoln said, “the world’s last best hope” and Israeli-Arabs have more freedom than do Arabs in the over twenty Arab countries that exist. This is telling and damning in its own right.
Islam is a mortal enemy of freedom and other good things like equality under the law, romantic love, a true Golden Rule for all and, oh yes, fun, or should I say general happiness. Well, when you adhere to a religion that says you are slaves of Allah, not much can be expected in the fun or happiness departments.
Virtually everything you wrote, Sabri S. is dead wrong. Fitting since Islam is dead wrong about so much. The more you try to defend Islam the more you only reveal how awful it is. So very fitting.
b.a. freeman says
“…why did the world NOT have these problems in the middle east prior to the forced creation of Israel[?]”
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it DID have them, Sabri; U are just not apparently well-read enough. U could start with mark twain, in “The Innocents Abroad” (see https://gutenberg.org/files/3176/3176-h/3176-h.htm), in which he writes (near the end of chapter XLIV) how 25 000 christians were murdered in 1861 by “turks” (pious muslims) in damascus and environs, and how the pious muslims who did it could not be troubled to clean up the piles of infidel bodies, so that they rotted in place. and this was one of the LESSER attacks on non-muslims. in conquering the middle east, the pious ummah did as pervert muhammed did, and “made a great slaughter in the land” (surah 8, ayah 67 of the foul quran).
so i guess that U, too, are all for theft, rape, child rape, slavery, murder, and genocide … so long as the victims are non-muslim. of course, U *could* just be an indoctrinated – and therefore ignorant – modern nazi (national SOCIALIST), and in truth, there is no shame in ignorance, which is just lack of knowledge, but one should make every effort to remedy that situation. otherwise, U could come by my house with a molotov cocktail and a tire iron, and i can cure U of your mind disease … but the cure is terminal, and .45 caliber. i won’t tolerate thugs attacking my community, but i am always willing to talk with somebody with whom i disagree. are U?
gravenimage says
The appalling Sabri S. wrote:
More generalized rubbish.
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Actually, the above story is very specific. Note that Sabri S. has no problem at all with Islamic Scholar Nafis Abu Zayd Sparrow calling for the murder of Infidels. But then, why would he?
More:
If Islam was so bad, why did the world NOT have these problems in the middle east prior to the forced creation of Israel.
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This is, of course, absolute claptrap. Muslims there regularly oppressed, abused, and murdered Jews and Christians. The Ottoman Empire had such abuse codified in its laws, and who can forget the Armenian Genocide, which targeted *all* Christians? Apparently Sabri S. hopes we have.
More:
As I have been to both New York and Phliadelphia, I can attest to the business and educational acumen of jews and asians.
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Does Sabri S. want us to ignore Black high achievers and Black-owned businesses in New York and Philadelphia? Apparently so.
More:
Marching, so called civil rights, voting and protesting have done NOTHING for african-americans. In the 1960s, weak minded blacks sat at counters and begged racists for cold coffee and stale donuts – and they called it a Civil Rights Movement. That was laughable then and it is even more ridiculous in 2020.
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Note that Sabri S. is sneering at all the progress made since the Civil Rights Movement, including sneering at Blacks themselves. This should not surprise. See Wellington’s post above for more information.
More:
Blacks in America, whose free labor helped build the wealth of America will get nowhere until they one:
1) educate themselves and create their own economy
2) Arm themselves en masse, and be willing to take up arms against the racist police
3) stop being colonized by Christianity, and take down that picture of Cesare Borgia, commonly called Jesus from their home walls…..it is NOT Jesus, whose skin was black and who spoke hebrew and Aramaic, of which neither language had the letter J. His name is Yeshua.
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Where to start? Actually, more and more Blacks in America *are* educated. The claim that they are not is sheer calumny.
As for 2), Sabri S. is essentially calling for more violence ala the Black Panthers and other violent groups. These thugs–unsurprisingly–largely murderously turned on each other.
As for 3), the claim that images of Jesus are modeled on Cesare Borgia is ludicrous. Images of Jesus in the West predate the birth of Cesare Borgia by centuries. Again, Sabri S. hopes we are ignorant of this.
Then, the idea that a Jew born in the Levant would be black is ludicrous. He would, as Ecosse1314 noted, likely have had olive skin.
Then, Sabri S. noting that Jesus is Yeshua is particularly bizarre, since Muslims claim that Jesus was actually a Muslim prophet named “Isa”, whose main purpose is to murder Christians. Has he forgotten what his own foul creed demands?
Then, it is Islam that enslaved Black Africans for centuries–including almost all of those who would make the middle passage to the Americas.
Christianity was key to the abolishment of slavery. Not so Islam.
In fact, Sabri S. does not mention that his coreligionists are *still* enslaving Blacks in Africa. Note that he has *no* problem with this. But how could he? The “Prophet” himself took, kept, and traded slaves–including many Blacks.
More:
4) Learn their real history, and not from the perspective of former slave owners either.
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Obviously Sabri S. has not read any history from the last century and a half, if he thinks that it is all from the perspective of slave owners. Either that, or he hopes that we haven’t.
More:
Sure, there was the Arab slave trade. However, slavery has existed since the beginning of mankind.
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Civilized people condemn slavery–Sabri S. will not. Islam enslaved *millions* of Black people and others for centuries. America and the West abolished slavery–the Muslim world never has. There has been no abolition movement in the Muslim world. This scourge is still rampant in Muslim Africa today in places like Sudan and the Islamic Republic of Mauritania. In this last country and estimated 17% of the population is enslaved. Sabri S. will say *nothing* critical of this horror.
More:
And no one tops America or Israel in terms of enslaving the world and their history of fomenting misery wherever they go in the world.
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Ah…right. Never mind that Israel is the sole democracy in the Middle East. She is surrounded by unfree Muslim nations, And America is the freest nation in the history of the world.
So what does Sabri S. mean here? Just that neither of these nations is imposing the horrors of Shari’ah law, and they often act against Jihad terrorists who would do just that.
More:
Islam is the future in America and it is none too soon. It is a better way, especially for the oppressed and downtroden in the world.
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So actually being *enslaved* is better for the downtrodden? Of course it is–that is how Muslims think.
As for “oppression”, Muslims consider this to be any constraints on being able to violently impose brutal Shari’ah law on us all. And he desperately hopes that Black people will fall for this.
gravenimage says
Fine posts from Wellington and b.a. freeman.
Wellington says
Excellent analyses and criticisms in your 3:32 P.M. post of today, gravenimage.
Of course, Sabri S. will learn nothing from them, just as a rube like “Rod” never learns. For totalitarians and their lackeys, facts are always optional, if even important at all. Castigation and hatred of the “them,” minus facts, serves as what is imperative (N.B., when people like Sabri S. and Rod are confronted by facts, they either don’t respond at all or with just more emotional, non-factual rot).
Propaganda, emotion and general ignorance are the “domain” of these lesser examples of our species. Such as them will almost certainly never “get it” but this is NOT what is most troubling, troubling though it still is. What is most troubling is that ordinary good people will do nothing in the face of ignorance and evil. They will let it happen.
And both the Judeo-Christian tradition and the humanistic tradition as exampled from Aristotle to Ayn Rand convey with alarm how this is the greatest bane to mankind, to wit, not ignorance and evil but not standing up to ignorance and evil. If anything is clear, this is clear. Crystal clear.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Wellington.
Agree with your points.
Michael Copeland says
“The essence of his doctrine was violence and lust: to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature.” —
John Quincy Adams, sixth president of the United States
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/04/quiz-who-is-being-referred-to/
gravenimage says
Good point, Dude. The Black people still enslaved today are enslaved by Muslims.
David says
Boko Haram specialise in that as well as slaughter.
william carr says
slavery, murder, robbery and rape Just like the Nazis in other words. Islam is just the same as Fascism in every detail
Chris D says
Fighting and Bloodshed…. from a “religious leader” of the Religion of Peace. Uh Huh.
keith O says
I’ll lay money on the fact that you won’t see this pratt on the front lines fighting for what he tells people to believe in.
He’s just another shit stirring mouth piece, another Muppet who likes to make noise and get others to do his dirty work for him.
Should be arrested for inciting violence.
Wellington says
He also makes me think it should be a misdemeanor for manifesting massive ignorance. Not really, of course, but my blood was up.
God, how I hate monumental stupidity. Muslims in our era (actually, any era) have practically a “corner” on this. But then I recall Leftism’s many monumentally stupid sins and, all of a sudden, it’s a toss up.
owensgate says
“…fighting and bloodshed are needed.” How positively astute for this cleric, albeit for not knowing a different solution to the planets problems would allay the violence; the Biblical prognosis for the End Times scenario, the “Lawlessness”, will come to pass – but not in the cleric’s expectation.
Beverly says
Someday I am going to get an answer to this question from a Muslim – if Allah created everything with perfection, then why did he create a slew of people who needed to be killed?
sima skarica says
And why does this cleric want to live in America which still a democratic country. Except for Israel, there are no democratic countries in Muslim lands
Go try to live in Syria, Iraq Iran etc
David says
Why? Because he thinks islam will conquer America. Dream on….
gravenimage says
Exactly, David.
David says
To give muslims something to die for?
gravenimage says
Philadelphia: Muslim cleric says demonstrations are useless, fighting and bloodshed are needed
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Nothing is ever enough for Muslims unless it involves a lot of dead Infidels.
God, I hate Islam.
Mount Zion says
This is plain and simple incitement to violence , I’m asking myself why he is not beeing charged , there are laws in place that would allow to throw his sorry ass in jail he also uploaded that Video on a Youtube Channel which is in itself prove enough . If you say the slightest thing against Islam no matter how truthful it may be you get in a lot of trouble
Politicians , headmasters , professors , police chiefs had to apoligize or resign for speaking out against FGM , death penalty for apostasy , the status as second class citizens for non muslims , honour killings and and and….but when it comes to an islamic scolar inciting peopleto shed blood nobody says buh .
gravenimage says
Yes, this *is* incitement to violence–the only thing not covered by freedom of speech laws. He *should* be prosecuted.
James Lincoln says
+1
Charlie says
That’s good. I got the distance, give me a minute and I’ll have the windage. Then GO!! 🙂
Honest Ali says
Listen to him closely. He is repeating what Muhammad said… “don’t fight unless you are sure you can win”…
He is also saying that protesting is letting others use you for their own agenda. And he is saying… “get your body fighting fit”.
He is also suggesting that Muslims establish no-go zones… Sharia zones…
You guys are getting outraged and hung up on the obvious fact that he is in favor of Jihad. But of course he is, he is a Muslim. Him being in favor of Jihad is a given. Pay attention to the other things he is saying.
Muslims didn’t conquer most of the world by being stupid. Listen, and learn a thing or two, so we have a chance to save Liberty.
tgusa says
The leftist enablers in positions of power have lost their grip on the movement they supported and inspired. The sharks are now circling the non conforming leftist leadership. The question is, what should we do if the privileged left call for outside help? What should we do when they want to bug out of their areas? Should they be allowed in to non leftist areas. I don’t think they can be trusted and I know their weakness in the face of the mob is a danger to others.
The civil war on the left has begun but because I prefer to avoid civil war I think we here in non leftist lands need to think hard on what we should do going forward. In every way shape or form the left is on a collision course with the past. They will revert to times and practices of the past thought to be long gone.
James Lincoln says
tgusa says,
Regarding: “The leftist enablers in positions of power…”
“What should we do when they want to bug out of their areas? Should they be allowed in to non leftist areas.”
Great question, and I don’t have a great answer that would pass legal muster. I would prefer to keep lefties out of red state strongholds, but how would you do that?
Leftists from Western Europe are also looking at muslim-free safe havens like Poland and Hungary. If they’re not kept out, Poland and Hungary will go the way of Western Europe…
GreekEmpress says
Where has Frank Anderson been?
I haven’t seen him n JW lately.
The question of legalities made me think of him. If I recall, he’s a lawyer? I hope he’s ok—
gravenimage says
I hope he is OK too, GreekEmpress.
gravenimage says
I see that Frank was posting on the “Pope silent about captive Italian woman’s possibly forced conversion to Islam” thread just a couple of days ago.
GreekEmpress says
Thanks gravenimage. I must have missed it.
gravenimage says
Thanks, GreekEmpress. I know Frank’s health has been shaky, so I worry, as well.
US infidel says
The prophet Muhammad said you should listen to your chief even if he is an Ethiopian with a head shaped like a raison. The raisonheads are so stupid they will do our bidding for us. Unbelievable why a black person would want to be a mudslime . Maybe Muhammad was right
Michael Copeland says
“And he bought him for two black slaves.”
One of Mohammed’s purchases.
David says
They are probably following the example of Muhammad (I am the greatest!) Ali. Hey, isn’t that blasphemy? Allahu Akbar (Allah is greater!)
I just read that Akbar means ‘mouse’ in Hebrew. Now that is funny!
jayell says
“Muslim cleric says demonstrations are useless, fighting and bloodshed are needed.”
But I always thought that a muslim ‘demonstration’ was ‘fighting and bloodshed’ anyway! In fact, a ‘muslim’ ‘anything’ usually ends up as fighting and bloodshed with a bit of death and destruction thrown in – that’s the way they communicate. So civilised!
Rob R (Brit stuck in Britainistan) says
What has the killing of George Floyd got to do with this idiot’s religion?
“Opportunist” isn’t even the right word for this whacko, makes him sound too human.
David says
Did he really say”Oppressive regimes” ? He must have been talking about islam!
Just had an email from my local paper: ” Man seriously hurt outside local mosque. Thought not to be a race crime”. Well that’s okay. What a relief.Muslims fighting amongst themselves.
gravenimage says
“Oppressive regimes” is anything where everyone is not under the Muslim heel.
gravenimage says
Firstly, this site is run by Robert Spencer, not his ally Pamela Geller.
Then, it is my understanding that all new posters automatically go through moderation. So no–you were not censored.
OLD GUY says
Fighting and bloodshed are truly the islamic way of life. Muslims oppress everyone under their dictatorship ruled and that is the goal of islam, total control.
Abdulrahaman shehu zulkifli (@ShehuZulkifli) says
I see many fools commenting and I know ? now whites are just hypocritical,sorry Christian’s,all wat sm of u say about Islam is sheer ignorance u are still blind and heart blinded..u hv Android u should search about those verse u are commenting,it is a revelation not written by any one,
gravenimage says
Abdulrahaman shehu zulkifli (@ShehuZulkifli) wrote:
I see many fools commenting and I know ? now whites are just hypocritical,
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How is opposing the call for murderous violence “hypocritical”? Of course, Abdulrahaman shehu zulkifli does not say. Note that he himself does not disapprove.
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sorry Christian’s,all (sic) wat (sic) sm (sic) of u (sic) say about Islam is sheer ignorance u (sic) are still blind and heart blinded..u (sic) hv (sic) Android u (sic) should search about those verse u (sic) are commenting,it is a revelation not written by any one,
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How have any of those commenting here gotten anything wrong? Note that Abdulrahaman shehu zulkifli does not say. The idea that we would love rape, enslavement, and murder if only we read enough about it is just sickening.
I have read the Qur’an multiple times, as well as many of the Hadith and the Sira. The idea that these horrors become more palatable with repetition is grotesque.
gravenimage says
One other point–note that Abdulrahaman shehu zulkifli assumes that all Americans are Christians–this is very common. Muslims assume that everyone in the West is Christian, in fact.