In the U.K., a university lecturer has been fired from his job for expressing, in a private conversation with a colleague, admiration of Jews for what he saw as their unusual talent in physics and mathematics.
The story is here.
A British university professor has been fired for, in part, saying that “Jewish people are the cleverest in the world.”
Stephen Lamonby, 73, a lecturer at Solent University in Southampton, made the remarks in question during a meeting with another academic, the Daily Mail reported.
These were comments made in a private conservation, not in a classroom. It was Lamonby’s personal observation that Jews displayed special abilities in math and science. Why should anyone take offense?
The other academic, Dr. Janet Bonar, said she had a degree in physics, and Lamonby asserted Jews had “a particular gift” in that field.
Bonar objected to this, to which Lamonby replied, “I believe that Jewish people are the cleverest in the world. They are much maligned because of it.”
Why did Dr. Bonar object? Was it because she disagreed that Jews had “a particular gift” in physics? Or was it because she did not think that any comments about “Jews” – or, presumably, any other ethnic or national group – was permissible in our hyper-vigilant woke societies?
Dr. Lamonby thinks, based on his lifetime of experience, that “Jewish people are the cleverest in the world.” Is he not entitled to express this opinion, which is the very opposite of antisemitism? And when he adds “they are much maligned because of it,” isn’t it true that part of the “maligning” of Jews by some antisemites reflects their resentment that Jews are indeed perceived as “clever”?
Is there any evidence to support Lamonby’s remark? How about the Nobel Prizes? Up until 2019, Jews – who constitute only 0.2 percent of the global population — should have won two Nobel Prizes. They have won 206.
That’s 40 percent of the economics prizes, 30 percent of the prizes in medicine, 25 percent of those in physics, 20 percent of those in chemistry, 15 percent of those literature, and 10 percent of the peace prizes. There is no Nobel in mathematics, but three separate prizes for achievements in mathematics – the Fields Medal, the Abel Prize, and the Wolf Prize – are given. Of these, Jews have won 27% of the Fields Medals, 30% for the Abel Prize, and 40% for the Wolf Prize, again out of all proportion to their numbers.
Isn’t Lamonby entitled to have taken note of that amazing over-representation of Jews as Nobel prizewinners in the sciences (medicine, physics, chemistry) and in mathematics (the Fields, Abel, and Wolf Prizes)? And isn’t he further allowed to take note of his own experiences, over a lifetime of teaching, in coming across an unusual number of talented students, colleagues, and teachers in science and math who turned out to be Jews? Why is making this sympathetic observation unacceptable – so unacceptable, that he lost his job over it?
“I asked if you were Jewish because of your ability with maths/physics etc., which is a specialty of theirs,” added Lamonby.
His inquiry was meant innocently, and admiringly, but apparently taking note of ethnic and national differences in the fields people excel in is no longer to be allowed.
Speaking at a disciplinary hearing, Lamonby said he was “excited to think she might be one of them — excited to meet a Jewish physicist, who had been my heroes since boyhood.”
He continued, “My comments were simply stating that, arising from my lifetime of experience, I have come to believe that certain nationalities have developed a higher level of skill in some areas.” Does anyone disagree with this observation?
“This is directly related to the level of exposure to criteria such as industry and education,” he stated. “This is not radical thinking; it is simply a view that reflects environmental privilege in general terms.”
Lamonby said he was using “positive stereotypes” and made similar observations about other groups, such as “Germans are good at engineering” and “the Japanese and the Americans are all good engineers in my opinion too.”
Is it terrible for Lamonby to harbor these thoughts? Are they beyond the pale? Should he lose his job for holding them?
He also noted, “I have a soft spot for young black males. I do think that they are underprivileged and many without fathers etc. need all the help they can get.”
Lamonby was dismissed for “gross misconduct.”
At an employment tribunal following Lamonby’s dismissal, Judge C.H. O’Rourke found, “While Mr. Lamonby sought to argue that his stereotyping (which it was) was positive, such ‘positivity’ is nonetheless potentially offensive to the recipient. A Jew told they are good at physics — because they are a Jew — may well consider that as demeaning their personal intellectual ability/hard work.”
Judge O’Rourke fails to see that there is a difference between Lamonby’s expressing what he has noticed in his career – an unusual facility of Jews (students, colleagues, teachers) in science and mathematics – and what Lamonby most certainly did not do: ascribing any particular Jew’s success in those fields, not to individual merit and hard work, but only to the fact of that person being a Jew. He is not “demeaning their [a Jewish scientist’s or mathematician’s] personal intellectual ability/hard work” in any way, but merely expressing his belief, based on observation, that Jews have shown an unusual talent for mathematics and physics. That does not take away from an individual’s achievement. As Lamonby said at his hearing: “My comments were simply stating that, arising from my lifetime of experience, I have come to believe that certain nationalities have developed a higher level of skill in some areas.”
Is it now impermissible to make such observations? Would it be offensive to state, for example, that French cuisine is unusually refined, that the French produce an unusual number of master chefs, and that this can be explained by how much attention is given in French culture to the art of cooking and to the celebration, with Michelin stars awarded to their restaurants, of chefs who occupy a prominent place in French culture, much different from the lesser position of cooks in, for example, the U.K. or in Germany or Russia? Or we might note that Italy has produced a great number of first-class opera singers, and that can be attributed not just to native talent, but to the role of music in Italian culture, including the early cultivation of talent (with instrumental music taught in Italian elementary schools). Is one not allowed to notice any of these national or ethnic differences, these differences in cultural emphases? Why? Are we to maintain the fiction that all ethnic and national groups are equally adept in all possible endeavors? Must we not notice, must we never comment on, the unusual number of Russians who can be found among the world’s best ballet dancers and chess grandmasters? And can’t we take note of the unusual number of Jews who have been outstanding scientists and mathematicians, without losing our jobs?
“Secondly, it could also be simply grossly offensive, as the person may not actually be Jewish, but feel some characteristic is being ascribed to them,” O’Rourke added.
Why would it be “grossly offensive” to ask someone with unusual abilities in science or mathematics whether that person might be Jewish, all the while explaining why the question was being asked? It was a friendly, even admiring, inquiry, not offensive in any way. No “characteristic” was being ascribed to Jews save that of unusual talent in mathematics and physics. Lamonby was inquiring of Dr. Bonar (who is that uncommon thing, a female physicist), whether she was Jewish out of pure curiosity; he had noticed in his long career that many Jews were exceptionally talented in those fields and wondered whether she too might be Jewish, as further evidence for his hypothesis. It’s hard to understand why she took such offense – she could simply have answered “No” — or why the university, prompted by her quite unnecessary complaint, made such a fuss and discharged Dr. Lamonby for his “gross misconduct.”
The judge concluded, “Thirdly, even if they are Jewish, they may quite properly consider it none of Mr. Lamonby’s business.”
If Dr. Bonar thought “it is none of Dr. Lamonby’s business” whether she was Jewish or not – he was merely wondering if she might offer one more example of what he had previously observed (that is, Jewish students and colleagues who displayed special talents in science and mathematics) — she need only have said so. For Dr. Bonar not to let the matter drop, but to make a formal complaint against Dr. Lamonby, which in the end led to his losing his livelihood, was a grotesque reaction, as was the opinion of Judge O’Rourke at the employment tribunal hearing. Dr. Lamonby was fired for “gross misconduct” – all because he dared to express his admiration for Jews, as being exceptionally “clever” and displaying unusual talent in math and science. Should we all be ordered never to generalize about any ethnic or national group? Here’s what we will not be allowed to say: “Russia produces the best ballerinas. France produces the best chefs. Kenya produces the best marathon runners. Norway produces the best skiers.” All strictly verboten. What about such statements, that one hears quite often nowadays, as “all whites are racists”? Curiously, that seems to be okay. No one making it would lose his job. But someone who objected to it just might.
Lamonby has claimed he was a victim of political correctness, saying, “You can’t make any comments [in universities] now because they are totally obsessed with racism and to talk about Jews in the context of racism is crazy because they are not even a race, they are an ethnicity.”
“Free speech is totally dead in universities,” he declared.
Certain kinds of speech are, however, still allowed. Speech that praises Jews may be “totally dead in universities,” as Dr. Lamonby to his sorrow found out, but speech that denounces Jews in Israel as “colonial-settlers,” “racists,” and even “Nazis” (as in the claim that “Jews are doing to the Palestinians just what Nazis did to the Jews”) is to be found on BDS-welcoming campuses all over the place.
That’s where we stand today. Praise the Jews for intellectual achievements, in a private conversation, and you must now be prepared to lose your job for “gross misconduct.” Denounce them for every sort of evil, and you will be invited to address the U.N. General Assembly, or to run for Congress, or to be quoted on social media by dozens of admirers, each with millions of followers. Moral topsy-turvydom. Get used to it.
PRCS says
“These were comments made in a private conservation, not in a classroom. It was Lamonby’s personal observation that Jews displayed special abilities in math and science. Why should anyone take offense?”
Why did Dr. Bonar take offense?
Maybe because it’s an idiotically stereotypical thing to say.
Does Lamomby also believe that about Asians (and no, I don’t mean those ‘Asians’)?
carpediadem says
It might be reasonably stereotypical but it was not offensive at all and he should not have lost his job over it!
Hugh has it spot on.
This whole affair is disgusting.
PRCS says
If Lamonby believes that Jews are a ‘race’, then what he said is racist.
Dr. Bonar took exception to that, and he was an idiot to have said that.
Phil Copson says
You’ve lost it this time, PRCS: I believe that Africans are a race and are generally better than the Japanese at basket-ball and boxing – how does being aware of observable facts make me a racist ?
PRCS says
Observable facts?
Africans are not a race, Phil,
Pray Hard says
Crybaby much?
NYgal says
Oh dear. Lets us walk on eggshells from now on and talk exclusively about weather. That should be safe enough. I’m Jewish and I didn’t find Lamonby in the least offensive. We Jews may not be a separate race, but we did maintained our separateness in diaspora for more than 1800 years, making us in some ways unique, while in others, like any other ethnic group.
Until the end of the 19th century we were completely cut off from the scientific and cultural life of the countries we had lived in, unable to attend universities unless we converted and denied our heritage. It is therefore understandable that some would find it unusual that there was so much scientific achievements among Jews once the doors to the mainstream education and culture were cracked open.
By the way, some stereotypes are not offensive and quite a few are true.
PRCS says
I’m Jewish and I didn’t find Lamonby in the least offensive”
Though others may.
mortimer says
List of Jewish Nobel laureates: Wiki
Nobel Prizes have been awarded to over 900 individuals, of whom at least 20% were Jews although the Jewish population comprises less than 0.2% of the world’s population.
PRCS says
Not BECAUSE they are Jews.
But that those individuals worked hard.
As did the other 720 individuals.
Pray Hard says
Oh, sorry, I meant to say, leftist crybaby much?
PRCS says
Childish much?
Anne Smith says
Unfortunately this whole affair speaks eleoquently about the stupidity which pervades most of Britain today.
David Curtis says
I agree, totally wrong the judge is a “””!!!!^^%*
william carr says
That Judge is a complete idiot and his arguments are nonsense. If I said that Asians are good at mathematics would that be racist also, Or if I said Africans are good at music A remark in a private conversation is not gross misconduct,
especially when it is in praise. I wonder if Dr Bonar is actually an anti semite herself, she is certainly a very unpleasant person
Westman says
This whole “discrimination” thing is getting absurdly, ridiculous.
Are you married? If so, you made the most discriminating, “racist”, action of your life; choosing your companion on the basis of religion, race, sex, physical appearance, and personality. Don’t lie about it. We all make discriminating judgements.
Judge O’Rourke, and the university administrators look in their mirrors and straightaway forget what kind of men they are…
SANJAC1836 says
This could be something out of an Orwell novel. Insanity is rationality. Rationality is insanity.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
The truth must out.
Now it’s that the truth must *not* out, if it has any potential at all to be hurtful or otherwise threatening to the feeling of security in another.
Orwell was prescient, a great writer and thinker, but even he could never have imagined this, where we are now. It feels surreal, but is real.
Marttheman says
It seems that a minority of people are holding the majority in check with their pc bs. This topsy-turvy-dom should be put back in its upright position. Normal people should take a more aggressive (verbally speaking) stance. As soon as you get a whiff of pc nonsense break it immediately. Attack aggressively. Take no words back, because that gives you a weaker position. This is not about a reasonable debate. This is about a power game. Like torture is not about trying to get the right answers, it is about torture for the sake of itself. Up until now most people didn’t understand this kind of rhetoric, but you have to see through it and counter it as soon as it occurs. You have to learn to speak Jordan Peterson style. Not everyone has the gift of the gab, but practice makes perfect and a nasty look can say more than a thousand words. You can show that you are no push over anymore. When we break the pc habit, our lives will improve because of it. Give it a shot and be relentless.
James Lincoln says
+1
Pray Hard says
Thank you.
Anne Smith says
Couldn’t agree more.
Unfortunately most people are too cowardly to do this and are silenced or acqiesce in dumb terror.
David Curtis says
So we are wrong to praise or criticise anything, anyone now. Road to hell.
Rufolino says
True. A lively exchange of contrasting opinions is almost impossible in the UK now.
As is, the expression of trenchant views in conversation.
Everyone is frightened to death of “causing offence”.
No one will speak up.
So nobody says anything the least bit stimulating,. It’s too risky.
The road to an intellectual hell is being paved, and down this road we are proceeding.
RichardL says
the UK has been lost a long time ago. However, Mr Lamonby was not a “university professor” and I also think that him “being fired” is an bit of an embellishment because he was 73 and was not a career academic (he has 0 publications to his name). I don’t go to conferences in the UK anymore, although I enjoyed being a guest in an Oxford college. The country is a allahist and Orwellian shithole.
Pray Hard says
What does your initial statement have to do with anything? Does having 0 publications make the behavior of Bonar just fine? And, oh, “an allahist”, mmmmmmm kaaaay?
RichardL says
I get where you are coming from, but JW is my go to site because it is very factual. Any exaggeration in any official report here can be used by the other side. So, the man was not a university professor, he was an occasional lecturer. That is a major difference: if I lose my job, I am unemployed. That gentleman might get a bit bored, but it has almost no impact on his finances. These old guys lecture after a career because they like teaching and sometimes they use their ‘salary’ to make their classes fun for all.
gravenimage says
Wait–you think it was fine to fire him for saying something nice about Jews because he’s old and doesn’t have enough published work to his name? **Good God**.
RichardL says
see above. You should know me better, graven!
gravenimage says
I hope so, Richard–but being fired is not just an issue if it is someone’s main source of income. This is still appalling crushing of freedom of speech.
Rob says
Putting aside the political correctness issue, wouldn’t it make sense for the “oppressed” people of today to emulate the Jews, the most oppressed people in history, in valuing education, hard work, nuclear family, personal responsibility, etc.?
PRCS says
Re: hard work.
Some say the same about Asians.
terry sullivan says
but not moslems
gravenimage says
+1
Phil Copson says
Would Janet Bonar have complained had Dr Lamonby enquired whether she had any other background than Jewish ?
If he’d complimented her on her outstanding knowledge of Persian poetry and understanding of Moorish architecture, and asked if she had a muslim background, would this have attracted the same degree of indignation ?
I’m certain it wouldn’t – because pandering to islam is de rigeur amongst the chattering-classes, and to have taken exception to the question might attract career-ending charges of “islamophobia”.
Being Jewish – on the other hand – is definitely out-of-fashion, and Bonar was so determined not to be associated with Judaism – even as a compliment – that she immediately set about throwing her colleague under the bus to prove her woke credentials.
By extension, if no particular characteristics can be ascribed to the Jewish people without attracting punishment, then presumably the self-important and grandstanding Judge O’Rourke is even now setting about banning the Koran from Britain on the grounds of it’s extensive litany of lies, hatred, and calls for the extermination of the Jewish people ?
Or then again, maybe he’s just smirking with satisfaction and preening himself on his cleverness in sucking-up to islam by destroying the livelihood and reputation of someone who stood with the Jewish people ?
What do you think…?
mortimer says
Yes, it is politically correct to admire and praise Muslims. Which race is Islam?
FYI says
But it is TRUE the Jews are particularly gifted in that field.How is that NOT a compliment?
{Einstein,Oppenheimer,Feynman,Emmy Noether…}
{I have always been impressed in particular by the intellectual humility of Feynman and eternally grateful to him when he stated that
“Nobody understands Quantum Mechanics”.
I loved the deterministic Newtonian model in school but then at college I was confronted by the probability distributions,randomness,indeterminism and weirdness of QM because it made little sense except in a mathematical way.QM spoiled my nice little Newtonian vision of a clockwork determinism.The Universe is more complicated than we ever thought.So to hear Feynmann saying “nobody understands QM ” was a great relief to me especially coming from somebody so gifted in the field,as QM is utterly counter-intuitive but we know this Theory works as that is where electronics and computers come from.I also liked Feynmann’s love of practical jokes and how he disdained groups elitist groups like mensa …That is a true scientist}
One outstanding Mathematician was surely Emmy Noether{…she is worth looking up}
It seems doc bonar does not get the irony of this;it is a compliment,not an insult.
Her speciality is “semiconductors and fabrication techniques”.
Speaking of fabrication..this imagined slight is a reflection of the silliness of many an academic in today’s PC
world.
Dr Lamonby should be immediately reinstated:this is ridiculous and a shameful ill-treatment of Dr Lamonby.
Pray Hard says
Bonar is an emotionally retarded leftist attention whore. Her intellect is a separate issue.
PRCS says
Mind read much?
Andrew Walker says
+1
Krishna says
Such an insane level of political correctness in UK even China is better at tolerance its seems
Gloria says
Truth will set you free. What we have lost is freedom in a PC world!
Gloria says
Truth will set you free. What we have lost is freedom in a PC world!
Antiislamicman says
The UK has gone mad
Roland says
Janet Bonar is a contemptible little Bolshevik snitch.
PRCS says
Do you know her?
jewdog says
I think academics are good at being jackasses. They have a special ability to bray and snort, and can be very stubborn. They are wonderful at carrying heavy loads up steep mountain passes, especially if you dangle a carrot in front of their noses.
jca reid says
Speaking the Truth will be deemed a Revolutionary Act – Orwell. This is completely insane. A guy quotes Basic facts & is sacked for it. What would have happened if he quoted other facts re. Nobel Prizes. e.g. Harvard Uni., USA & King’s College Cambridge, have each separately produced Many MORE Nobel Laureates in the Sciences than the ENTIRE Islamic World. What would have happened if he’d cited various studies into IQ, Races, Geographical Locations? This includes the UN Study figures. There are IQ Tests out there that transcend languages/culture etc, so can be given to any individual. China averages about 100; Hong Kong China about 101.small number; Europe & Nth. America, both 100; ISLAMIC WORLD 80 & sub – Saharan Africa 40 – 50. These are the FACTS. Facts don’t give a damn for your opinion or feelings.
A few years ago I saw on Facebook, Astro-Physicist, Neil de Grasse Tyson for the first time. He was talking about the Arab/Muslim World & Science. He put up the figures comparing Muslim & Jewish Nobel Laureates. figures accurate up to 1999, I think. The Jewish Laureate numbers hammered the Muslim numbers, (who had 3 in around 100 years). The Jewish number was around 25% of ALL scientific Nobels. It worked out comparing populations, the Jews had a 100 fold over representation!
Perhaps this woman ought to have a go at Tyson & get him sacked?!
In the past (19th Century), Scots were way over represented in Medicine compared to England. Scotland produced 7 times as many doctors than England with only 1/7th of the population numbers.
Re. this business at Southampton Uni. The Government’s Ministry of Education had better get involved. Perhaps it can be arranged for Ms. Bonar to be picked up by some Muslim men & introduced to Islam & they can play the “Taharush” Game with her, as happened to a Parisienne lady a few years ago.
gravenimage says
Good for Neil de Grasse Tyson!
Ade Fegan says
We really are screwed
Ade Fegan says
But jew hatred from muslims ? .. well that’s just dandy !
FYI says
muhammed famously hated Jews.
muhammed mass-murdered the Jews{Abu Dawud 4390}
muhammed stole from the Jews of khaybar
muhammed falsely accused the Jews of worshipping someone called ‘Ezra son of allah'{koran 9:30}
muhammed went to his grave cursing Jews{sahih muslim 1082}
muhammed died after being poisoned by a captured JEWISH woman whose family he had killed
So muhammed dies in agony..KILLED by a JEWISH WOMAN{the worst possible assassin for muhammed who hated Jews and said women were stupid}
and is Judged by..
a JEW
[Jews would say it is YHWH,In christianity the Judge is Jesus Christ who is..JEWISH:But you see either way it is JEWISH.muhammed is totally screwed!muslims of course won’t get that…]
gravenimage says
So true, Ade.
James Lincoln says
Since 1990, Kenyans have won the Boston Marathon 21 times.
Kenyans possess superior ability in running the Boston Marathon.
The above, in a brain-dead PC World, is a “racist” comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_winners_of_the_Boston_Marathon#Men's_open_division
Pray Hard says
Jews and some Asians have the highest IQ’s on the planet. It’s a simple fact. Attention whores like Bonar are the ones who should be fired or just burned at the stake. That’s all this was about … leftist attention whoring. Or maybe she thought that if she could get him fired, she might move up the academic ladder. Or, maybe at 73, the university just wanted to get rid of him. Either way, the UK is lost. NEVER apologize or explain a completely rational statement. Make the leftist cucks deal with it.
PRCS says
All Jews and some Asians?
gravenimage says
Japan, China, South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan–all among the highest IQs in the world.
Places like Bangladesh and Iraq, not so much…
PRCS says
Because Judaism is a religion, not a race:
https://www.slayerment.com/asians-have-higher-iqs-blacks-hispanics-and-whites#:~:text=Following%20Asians%20with%20the%20highest%20IQs%20you%20have,to%20IQs%20you%20have%20Asians%20at%20the%20top.
gravenimage says
This is a complicated subject, PRCS–Jews may be considered Jewish on the basis of ethnicity, religion, or culture.
But Judaism and the cultures I listed above do indeed have traditions of considering study and scholarship to be important.
But I have certainly known individuals of varied ethnicities who are dedicated to education–people are individuals.
Islam’s rejection of reason and any study not related to the Qur’an does not help, though.
PRCS says
“people are individuals”
Precisely.
gravenimage says
PRCS, one can recognize–and champion, as I do–people being individuals. That does not mean that we have to ignore statistics..
PRCS says
If DNA is the reason Jews–the world over–have a ‘special gift’ in that field, I would be interested to see the stats.
gravenimage says
I never once said this was due to DNA, PRCS–I think this is more to do with religion and culture.
DH says
Whenever your little toe touches the cold water of IQ people all the way across the lake start screaming “Racist!”. This is what is implied and what is factually correct. Muslims should be emulating successful, philanthropic, creative, life affirming Jews instead of blaming them. But everything is upside down and backwards now so Quran Word Salad is back on the menu at the trendiest restaurants in the trendiest cities not yet owned by China. More frightening is the prospect that these dhimmi-wits will gain more control over other people’s eyes, ears and tongues in the coming years.
PRCS says
Or emulate Asians:
https://www.slayerment.com/asians-have-higher-iqs-blacks-hispanics-and-whites#:~:text=Following%20Asians%20with%20the%20highest%20IQs%20you%20have,to%20IQs%20you%20have%20Asians%20at%20the%20top.
gravenimage says
Many people can excel if they apply themselves.
PRCS says
Given opportunity, maybe most.
gravenimage says
Agreed, PRCS. Of course, Muslims have opportunity in the West–but many reject it due to the diktats of Islam.
Rob R (Brit stuck in Britainistan) says
The only thing that anyone cared about here was finding an excuse to fire someone so they could feel powerful. That is all.
That is all that this current woke insanity is about, an excuse to act like hissing deranged snake creatures towards your fellow human being.
Clive Delmonte says
Do the circumstances of this case warrant an appeal to a higher court or judicial body ?
gravenimage says
I hope so.
gravenimage says
U.K. Lecturer Fired For Making Admiring Comments About Jews
…………..
Just appalling–yet who can really be surprised?
Phil says
No I won’t get used to it and I refuse their bullshit.
Janice Mermikli says
In answer to ” NYgal” (No “reply” link under that comment):
I entirely agree with your comment, but would like to add the following ways in which Jews are unique:
(1) They came back from the brink after the Holocaust nearly wiped them out in Europe (and would have done the same worldwide had the Axis powers won the War).
(2) They not only returned to their ancestral homeland and won it back against great odds, worthy of the ancient Jewish heroes (think of David – before he became king – and the Philistines, Gideon and the Midianites, or Joshua capturing the city of Jericho, for example.)
(3) They resurrected the long-dead (as a spoken medium) language Hebrew and turned it into a wonderful living language.
For me, together with the extraordinary intellectual gifts that an ethno-religious group who comprise only 0.02% of the world’s population display, all the above are the marks of a special “nation” (for want of a better word, because “race” is not correct, seeing as there is only one human race.)
My Christian convictions have always led me to believe that the Jews are the Chosen People.
Idol and Icon says
I’ve taught mathematics to international students for over 10 years, by far the most able students were Chinese, fact. Why because they work hard from an early age. Studies show they are naturally gifted with numbers partly due to their language. And the most gifted were Chinese girls. By comparison British girls, those not in private schools, are lazy, an attitude that is self defeating, and prefer idiot culture.
David Curtis says
Surely your comments re English girls is “Potentially”, enough to get you also fired. Or do you teach in a sane Uni?
Proud Kafir says
About Christian notions of chosen people: Even Einstein or Theodore Rabbi did not believe that the Jews were the chosen people. But then, ethnic groups / religions groups do author their own future. Jews have authored their success excellently well. So have have the Japanese after 1945. So have the Chinese after the Boxer Rebellion. So have the Italians and Germans after 1945. The Russians after the Russian Revolutions made excellent strides in space and science.
The English conquered the world and the sun never set in the British Empire. Even now the English have conquered the world with their language. The Chinese have done so with their martial arts and cuisine. The Indians with yoga and spirituality. The Germans with their engineering…and list can be extended to many groups for admiration.
So any admiration for any group for their achievements should evoke inspiration and not protest. Dr. Bonar should realise this as an academic. Loss of job for this is just a sign of things to come… Do not talk..only being self-gagged is safe bet.
Some groups (obvious names will not be given out here) have distinguished themselves in bombs, terrorism, forced conversions, female oppression, non-believer oppression, etc. They are “distinguished” in a different way.
Vito E says
Dr. Lamonby declared “Free Speech is totally dead in universities”. He is so right.
You’ve got Judge O’Rourke basing the termination on: “potentially”. Judges remarks: “Such positivity is nonetheless “potentially” offensive to the recipient”. Imagine being positive & now the speech police are basing their censorship on “potential” impacts of being POSITIVE! How Dare Dr. Lamonby be positive! These fascists who continue to censor speech are “potentially” dangerous!
R Thomasson says
Imagine that Dr. Lamonby had said to this Dr. Bonar that American Blacks excel in Athletics, and win the most Olympic medals, American blacks are the creators of Jazz music, and have excellent musicians. Ethiopians and Kenians are the best Marathon runners, and Russians are world’s best Chess players, would she have any objection to that? What is wrong with expressing own free opinion in private? It seems UK universities are transforming themselves into some kind of Cultural-Marxist horror institutions. They adopt dictatorial regime where there is no place for free speech. By the way, the very high level of IQ belongs to Eastern European Jews- NOT ALL THE JEWS.
Rufluc says
When I read stories like this one, I have to laugh in disbelief at the sheer lunacy of it all. The subject of ‘race’ has become so weirdly distorted and has been embellished into some kind of spiritual ‘no man’s land’ ,where both fools and the wise fear to tread.
A forbidden subject that daren’t be mentioned in fear of being castegated for the rest of your life. Where people have been disenfranchised from even attempting to discuss the matter. It’s total and utter madness!
I have said it before and I’ll say it again. We are all but animals. OK, supposedly more advanced than any other (though you would never think it), but animals we are.
Like dogs and cats, there are many different breeds. Some are aggressive, some passive. Some are good at running, some not. Some are large and some are small. Some are intelligent and easily trained, some are not. Some look cute, some don’t.
And all have unique physical traits that appeal to some people, others not. The list goes on, and on.
All of these diverse attributes can be openly discussed with no problem, so why can’t the same be said about us humans?
WHY do ALL humans have to be designated the ‘same’ in every way, when in reality the exact opposite is the truth? Welcome to the weird and foolish world of the left. A world where everything is turned on its head. A world where the mad and insane, although in a minority, have taken control.
So what does that say about the rest of us? The majority of us who have somehow managed to hold onto our sanity, but have lost control to these idiots?
It makes us look weak, dumb even, because we have allowed our own morality and fear of looking and feeling bad, to be used against us.
It’s a game of psychology that the left have used to their advantage.
Instead of fighting back against this lunacy, we have readily submitted to them, so as to conform to their world of madness.
So why have we done this? Why indeed!
My belief is that our young have been corrupted from an early age through our schools and universities, by far left Marxist individuals, and others with similar leftist leanings. People like this Dr Bonar for example, who probably had her mind scrambled in a Marxist mind mixing machine (more commonly known as a university) whilst studying for her doctorate.
If ‘normality’ is ever to be reinstated, it is these places that first need to be purged of the left wing ideological bile that freely flows in them. A Marxist kind of bile that corrupts our children’s minds.