Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has for a considerable period declared his commitment to protect his Christian country against mass migration and Islamization. In 2015, he said that the swarm of migrants flowing into Europe looked more “like an army.” Now, he adds: “I don’t even want to think about the integration of Muslim people in Europe. The most we could hope for is a peaceful life next to each other, which is called a parallel society.”
Orban also warned in 2015:
What we have been facing is not a refugee crisis. This is a migratory movement composed of economic migrants, refugees and also foreign fighters. This is an uncontrolled and unregulated process.
The Hungarian Prime Minister has meanwhile been spending millions to help persecuted Christians in Syria and Iraq, despite accusations of being “racist”; the EU has ignored these persecuted people.
“Hungary Strikes Back Against E.U. ‘Open Borders’ Propaganda,” by Thomas D. Williams, Breitbart, September 15, 2020:
ROME —The Hungarian government has rejected new calls for open borders, insisting on the right of sovereign states to control their own borders.
Government spokesman Zoltan Kovacs responded sharply to a Bloomberg op-ed by Andreas Kluth Tuesday, which called Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán a “saboteur” of European Union (E.U.) immigration reform who had failed to open his nation’s borders to waves of migrants in 2015.
“Perhaps ‘journalism’ like this is to blame for the tragedy at the Moria camp,” Mr. Kovacs responded on Twitter. “Reporting that it’s wrong to require migrants to request asylum in first safe state, claiming PM Orbán ‘blocked’ refugees, pushing the ‘open borders’ position as if it were a human right. It’s not.”
In his September 11 essay, Mr. Kluth urges the E.U. to “strong-arm” leaders who resist, starting with Orbán, in order to “fix” its migration system, or risk a further series of humanitarian disasters like the recent fires in the Moria refugee camp on the Greek island of Lesbos.The E.U. “still makes most decisions by unanimity, and the usual suspects — always led by Orban and his copycats in the nationalist government of Poland, but also including states like Austria — block every step,” Kluth declared. “In effect, they’re sabotaging the E.U.”
Hungary has stood out for its defense of national sovereignty in opposition to E.U. efforts to coerce member states into taking a certain “quota” of migrants independent of the wishes of their citizens.
In 2016, Mr. Orbán said that the E.U. was “destroying” the continent by forcing member states to accept quotas of mass Muslim immigration, which creates segregated societies and parallel legal systems.
“The uncontrolled influx destroys Europe and it doesn’t even help the migrants. It’s better for everyone to stay in their own territory,” he insisted.“We are not here to solve the migration problem, but a historical one. We, Europeans, Hungarians, Christians, have to describe our attitude towards immigration,” he said.
In his speech, Orbán criticized leaders like German Chancellor Angela Merkel for encouraging more than a million people to come from the Middle East during 2015.
Allowing this idea to rule “will destroy Europe, and its culture and economic system too,” he said. “And we don’t help those who left their home countries. And those who stay are also losing with this attitude.”
“I don’t even want to think about the integration of Muslim people in Europe. The most we could hope for is a peaceful life next to each other, which is called a parallel society,” he added……
Dave from San Antonio says
Hungary is right. Each member in the EU is still a sovereign state…unless they signed that right away. The EU…was put together for one reason…the start of a world government.
maria says
agree Hungary is the only country in Europe that fights for her freedom
Jayell says
It wouldn’t surprise me if Hungary was next to leave after the UK. What would that be called? ‘Hexit’?
Wellington says
To my knowledge, other Eastern European countries like Poland, Czechia and Slovakia have been stalwart in opposing mass Muslim immigration.
gravenimage says
+1
eduardo odraude says
To my Jewish friends,
David P. Goldman, aka Spengler, tested the proposition of whether he could walk across one of those Visegrad capitals (I believe he spoke of Budapest) wearing Jewish religious garb and do so without being harassed or bothered in any way. Indeed, when he or his acquaintances tried it, they were not disturbed or treated rudely or bothered by anyone. He pointed out that, by contrast, Jews in France and other parts of Western Europe are frequently advised NOT to wear any religious garb, because the risk of violence to Jews is too high.
So who is right about Islamic migration and immigration then? The EU and the Western European states, which are seeing an exodus of Jews because of the growth of Islamic populations and the notorious anti-Semitism that comes with those Islamic populations? I’d say most of Western European leadership is wrong, and Victor Orban is right.
Why doesn’t Western European leadership care about the fact that Jews are leaving Europe? Probably because Muslims now constitute a larger voting block thanks to Frau Merkel.
Western European states are increasingly political slaves to an alliance between the Left and Islam. (Islam will of course eventually destroy the Left, when the Left is no longer useful — as Khomeini did to the Left after it had helped bring him to power in Iran.)
Is it really unreasonable to ask that at least a part of Europe (the Visegrad states) remain relatively free of Islamic immigration, just in case the Western European experiment (endless Islamic influx) turns out in a generation or two to be the death of freedom in Western Europe? Wouldn’t it then be a good thing to have a few still-surviving free states to which Christian refugees could escape, and from which a new Reconquista might go forth?
curious george says
eduardo odraude,
+1
Maybe, there is something else going on in terms of Western Europe becoming more hostile to the Jewish people?
According to the Jewish Virtual Library, France has the 3rd largest Jewish population in the world, 450,000 or 3.1% of the Jewish world population, Israel is 1st with the United States 2nd.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-of-the-world
Is it possible, that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is calling His people back to the land of Israel, and this increase in the hostility towards the Jewish people is His way of prodding them to move? Human nature being what it is, change is sometimes difficult to make, especially, moving to another country.
gravenimage says
curious george, wherever you have large numbers of Muslims you have violent antisemitism. With respect, I think this is more salient than speculation that God wants Jewish people to be assaulted.
curious george says
gravinimage,
I agree, it does sound off the charts. However. we are living in off the charts times.
French Jews leaving for Israel: ‘Anti-Semitism is increasing and France is surrendering to jihad’
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/07/french-jews-leaving-for-israel-anti-semitism-is-increasing-and-france-is-surrendering-to-jihad
tim gallagher says
I agree with the other comments that the Visegrad bloc countries are on the right track when it comes to islam. They are realistic in their assessment of the neverending trouble Muslims will bring to any country dumb enough to let this enemy in, and are shutting the door on Muslims. I wonder if Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia might all leave the EU. With the UK already gone, that might start an avalanche of other European countries who tell the EU to piss off. I think that would be a good thing.
James Lincoln says
tim gallagher says,
“I wonder if Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic and Slovakia might all leave the EU.”
At the current time, these Visegrad Group countries are receiving a large economic trade, etc., benefit by remaining in the EU – without being saddled with muslim migrants.
That being said, I believe that they would leave the EU before being forced to accept migrants that they did not want – and would find new economic opportunities…
curious george says
gravenimage,
Thank you for pointing out my poorly worded comment… above at 8:55 PM.
As Winston Churchill once said:
“Personally, I’m always ready to learn, although I do not like always to be taught.”
– Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
This is the thought I was trying to express… nothing happens that God does not allow to happen; we see that in the book of Job.
Did God “want” bad things to happen to Job? No. Did God allow bad things to happen to Job? Yes.
Note: Satan had to ask for God’s permission to test Job, without God’s permission, Satan was powerless.
Did God limit what Satan was allowed to do to Job? Yes. Did Job ever curse God or believe that God had completely abandoned him? No.
Did Job’s wife and friends have an opinion that was contrary to God’s plan for Job? Yes
Did Job’s wife and friends help or hinder Job in his affliction? They hindered him.
Did God reward Job’s faithfulness by healing him and restoring everything that had been taken from him? Yes.
Did God ever answer Job’s “why” question? No.
The book of Job consists of 42 Chapters. In Chapter 19, just before the halfway point of Job’s affliction, Job says:
For I know that my Redeemer lives,
and at the last he will stand upon the earth.
And after my skin has been thus destroyed,
yet in my flesh I shall see God,
whom I shall see for myself,
and my eyes shall behold, and not another.
My heart faints within me!
Job 19:25-27
That is amazing!
The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed and the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed. In this passage, Job seems to be alluding to passages in the New Testament like… Romans 8:28, Matthew 10:28 and Revelation 21:1-3.
“And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.”
Romans 8:28
“And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.”
Matthew 10:28
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Revelation 21:1-3
It isn’t that God “wants” the Jewish people to be harmed as much as he “allows” it to happen for a greater good.
As horrible as the holocaust was for the Jewish people, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob was preparing His people, strengthening them, filling them with a resolve, “never again.”
And, at the same time, God was paving the way for the Nation of Israel to come into existence. Something that may not have happened or been delayed indefinitely, if not for the horror of the holocaust.
Today, Israel’s Military is one of the most powerful in the world and Israel one of the most productive Nations in the world.
gravenimage says
curious george, I know that Jews are fleeing France for Israel and the US. The French *should* be alarmed, but few are.
And thank you for your observations on the Bible.
Daniel Triplett says
There’s a group of four of them that are strong, but Orban and Hungary are probably the strongest. Europe needs a lot more Viktor Orbans. He’s an impressive guy.
The Visegrád Group, Visegrád Four, or V4, is a cultural and political alliance of four countries of Central Europe (the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia), to advance co-operation in military, cultural, economic and energy matters with one another and to further their integration to the EU.
Here’s a useful interactive table that lists the exact 2020 Muslim numbers for every nation on Earth:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/muslim-population-by-country
GreekEmpress says
Mr. Triplett,
Thank you for the link. Greatly appreciated.
James Lincoln says
Daniel Triplett says,
“Europe needs a lot more Viktor Orbans. He’s an impressive guy.”
Perfectly stated Daniel, he is an impressive guy…
curious george says
Daniel Triplett,
Thank you for information on the V4, I didn’t know that. And, thank you for the link.
Stan Parker says
Agreed!
curious george says
Dave from San Antonio,
I agree, the EU is a stepping stone toward a One World Government. It’s being done, incrementally, gradually conditioning the people to accept more and more government and less and less freedom. Kinda, like the frog in the pot.
As for each nation that joined the EU maintaining their sovereignty, I’m not sure about that. The nation, or more accurately, the people in power at the time, MAY have signed away their independence when they agreed to become part of the EU.
I’m sure someone here at JW can shed further light on the issue.
David Curtis says
Yes they did sign away much then and often since as new BS is passed through the eu talkin shop. Many remainers say we were lied to during our referendum, what the either dont know, or did not want to mention are the lies, deceit, withheld info authorised by 2 of our less than prime ministers, heath & wilson.
Take a look at this friends. From the British Commonwealth office,
FCO 30 1048 document number, though it may not get you there, C & P doesnt work on the link I have
David Curtis says
Pots boil over, soon I hope
drljr says
The EU is an organization similar to the US’s Article of Confederation. It will fail. It is why we replaced the Articles of Confederation with the US Constitution. The countries in Europe need to recognize that their real freedoms are at stake since those in power are trying to enslave the people.
David Curtis says
After 4 years the eu still will not let go, still want to subjugate UK to their rules, even when we finally l;eave, roll on 31st December, then its 2 fingers time.
Eleanor says
Yep, and so was the United Nations, maybe not at the beginning, but certainly in recent times – these are dangerous organisations with not-so-hidden agendas.
David Curtis says
Quite funny, to read afgan get seat on some UN department for womens rights, should go down well with the tali.
Rufolino says
If Orban can be described as “a saboteur” of Europe, how could Angela Merkel be described ?
Orban deserves the Nobel Prize for defending his country against a barbaric political ideology.
David Curtis says
Mass accomplice murderer. of her citizens. Their aim is to have laws to stop me, you all to say the above.
David Curtis says
They have been signing our authority away since we joined.
European pagan says
Very good, don’t allow them enter the country.
Jól csinálja, Viktor bá! ?
drljr says
He is doing what is correct. Islam is not a religion, but is a hostile theocracy whose citizens are instructed to invaded and occupy countries, and then force people to worship the god Hubal. Remember, the Arabic word “allah” is a contraction of the Arabic phrase “al (the) ilah (god)”. It is used to reference the moon god Hubal. Mohammad started this war 1400 years ago when his lies about Hubal were rejected by just about everyone. Get a Qur’an and read it. Mohammad even allowed people to worship Hubal daughter goddesses for a while.
Michael Copeland says
Islam is Government – WITHOUT the consent of the governed.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/07/islam-is-government/
Lauren Hermann says
Michael, thanks for the link. My husband and I are US ex-patriots living in very rural France (think West Virginia.) Several years ago we spent a week in Vienna. One of the employees at the hotel told me that all Austrian school students are required to learn about this part of their history. I found a excellent documentary online:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc-RWtovrqg
It’s 49 minutes long, and very well done.
gravenimage says
Islam is a religion by any definition–it is just an *evil* religion.
L Mayor says
Or, islam is an evil, totalitarian ideology which, like similar totalitarian ideologies (nazism, communism), demands that its adherents follow its instructions (or face penalties), said instructions include converting, subjugating, or, murdering all non believers. Is there another religion which makes the same demands of its followers?
gravenimage says
Not at this time, L Mayor. This does not mean that Islam is not a religion–it means that it is a deeply harmful religion. Most religions are not.
x says
Orban is the greatest leader in Europe and perhaps the world. Of course all the media attack him constantly (like they do Trump). The cultural revolution has gone further in Europe than in the US. Anybody who displays a basic, expected loyalty to their own country is considered a N*zi. The purpose of the EU is to destroy the nations of Europe.
Hungary is not alone. Poland, Czech Republic, and Slovakia have also expressed a desire to protect their own people which is exactly what a government should be doing. The governments in western Europe have betrayed their own people and truly deserve justice with extreme prejudice.
The Vishigrad 4 did not escape from the tyranny of the USSR just to become slaves to the EU.
They know better.
God bless Viktor Orban.
David Curtis says
Pity they didnt look into the aims ( secret) for the fedization of the eu etc. Just hope the eu dont put legal or finacial pressures on the Sensible4.
j c a reid says
Politicians with some Common Sense. Hungarian Territory, way back in the day, was part of the Ottoman Empire. They’ve experienced Islamic rule & don’t want it back. Simple application of Common Sense. No need for fancy University Education at Oxbridge, Ivy League or the Sorbonne etc. Hungary, Poland & the Eastern European countries can tell Brussels, to “shove it” & their People WILL back these Leaders to the hilt!
gravenimage says
Hungary rejects EU’s new calls for open borders, insisting on right of sovereign states to control their own borders
……………………
Hear, hear, Viktor Orbán!
Shirley Ann says
Cheers for my favorite Prime Minister, Victor Orban of Hungary. He kept his word to his people & refused to Kow-Tow to the Big Shots at the EU. No one wants to live in a Society, where Invaders show up & claim “SANCTUARY”, then set up a “Little Country” in your midst, with their own culture, Religion & Intolerance toward their Host Country.
I’m So Pleased that PM Orban is placing “HUNGARY FIRST.” Thank You.
David Curtis says
Hi, Wish we had more like Orban
Mike says
the only country that still has NO Islam violence
do the math
David Curtis says
That is a very pleasant place to be, they watch with horror at the killings, stabbings etc occuring in many eu member states, and it isnt just isolated cases, daily might be nearer the truth.
No Muzzies Here says
The EU wants “open borders.” Actually that means “NO borders.” An open border is not a border.
The EU was created for the purpose of eliminating the various member nations and to create a Super State, a United States of Europe. It has gone a long way towards eliminating national identities.
It mandates the EU flag be flown alongside national flags. It makes laws that override national laws. It reduces the national symbol on auto registration plates to a small flag, or two letter country code.
Sadly, a once-great country that was known for its fierce national pride, France, has lost most of that and is now promoting the EU.
It’s great to see that at least one country, Hungary, wants to preserve its national pride.
Pray Hard says
A sovereign nation cannot consist of lemmings. A sovereign nation can only consist of sovereign individuals.
James Lincoln says
Makes you wonder what the EU would look like now if all country leaders had, for the past 60 years, a mindset similar to Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán…
Goofy says
Orban is in tune with the sentiment of the majority of Europeans who will not be told by the Muslim invaders that if they don’t like Islam they have to leave their countries!
Orban is out of tune with the European Union which is out of tune with the European population. When we signed up for a European Custom’s Union we didn’t sign up for cultural and societal suicide.
OLD GUY says
Hungry as a country has every right to control its borders and restrict anyone it deems a risk or just don’t like. Borders are what makes up a country and its society and culture. Open borders leads to migration invasions that destroy your country.