“We do not want it to be legal in Sweden to burn holy scriptures such as the Quran, the Bible and the Jewish scriptures, and that at the same time it should be forbidden to mock the various religions,” imam Hussein Farah Warsame said.
It sounds so reasonable, right? But no one starts rioting and murdering when people burn Christian or Jewish scriptures, so what Warsame is really saying is that he wants to outlaw burning the Qur’an, and forbid mockery of Islam. Mockery is a hard hill to die on, because many people, particularly Christians (such as Antje Jackelén here), think it is wrong in every case to mock anyone else’s religion (I Kings 18:27 notwithstanding). Very well, but that is not the only issue here. Also at stake is whether or not Sweden, and ultimately the Western world in general, will surrender the freedom of speech and establish the precedent that it is forbidden to offend certain groups. It is a short jump from there to a tyranny that works its will unchallenged because it is forbidden to challenge those who are in power.
“Muslims Seek to Amend Swedish Constitution to Ban Mockery of Religion as Qurans Continue to Burn,” by Igor Kuznetsov, Sputnik News, September 14, 2020 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
In recent weeks, the Danish Hard Line party has torched several copies of the Quran in what it dubbed “Swedish ghettos”, ostensibly to protest the spread of Islam and celebrate freedom of speech.
After Danish politician Rasmus Paludan’s Hard Line party launched a Quran-burning tour across Sweden, 15 Muslim congregations have voiced their desire to change Sweden’s laws to ban the mockery of religion. They’ve indicated that this should specifically include the burning of holy scriptures.
“We do not want it to be legal in Sweden to burn holy scriptures such as the Quran, the Bible and the Jewish scriptures, and that at the same time it should be forbidden to mock the various religions,” imam Hussein Farah Warsame told the newspaper Dagens Nyheter.
The Quran-burnings have also been condemned by multiple Swedish politicians across the political spectrum, as well as Archbishop Antje Jackelén. As a member of the Swedish Christian Council, she strongly disapproved the “conscious violations of people’s faith”, according to the newspaper Expressen.
“To burn books is barbaric. Not least books that many hold as holy,” the council wrote in a statement, warning that these actions “stoke polarisation between people, and counters integration efforts”. “We express our strong sympathy with the Muslim believers in our country,” the Christian leaders concluded.
Since the end of August, the anti-Islamic ethno-nationalist Hard Line party has burned several Qurans in what it described as “Swedish ghettos”, most notably in Malmö’s ethnic enclave of Rosengård, in defiance of a police decision not to grant demonstration permits.
This stoked Islamic riots that led to several police officers being injured. The Swedish authorities failed to stop the demonstration, and the city of Malmö subsequently denied any religious undertone to the riots. Since then, Hard Line members have torched Qurans in Stockholm’s Rinkeby, Gothenburg’s Angered and Trollhättan.
Rasmus Paludan himself, a Danish lawyer turned politician, suggested that the Quran-burnings are intended to “help Sweden against Islamisation”.
“The goal is to stop the Islamisation of Sweden. To withdraw Islamisation back to the levels of the 1960s or so. There should be about one million people travelling back to the Muslim countries where they belong, or converting to something other than Islam. It is clear that this is the goal,” Paludan said, pledging to go on until “no Islam” is left in Sweden.
Meanwhile, the police’s decision not to grant permission for an anti-Islam demonstrations that feature Quran-burnings and well as the near-universal condemnation by politicians means in practice “the re-introduction of blasphemy laws” in Sweden, lawyer and columnist Nima Rostami wrote in his opinion piece in the news outlet Nyheter Idag, suggesting that it undermines democracy and empowers Islamists by giving them legitimacy….
Kesselman says
It has for decades been a no go to differentiate btw various entities in the name of non-racist and equal treatment of ppl based on the UN charter in the late forties.—Another time then and somehow far from today’s actuality. Back then no problem by condemning Nat’l Socialism. So I cannot see why Islam has a free reign today. It’s time to discriminate heavily on the part Mohammedans. If the free world has to survive the Mohammedan ideology it has to be criminalized. Make national laws exclusively targeting mozzies. At first glance, it seems unjust. But trust me it’ll pay at the end of the day.
maria says
You are right. Muslims are new nazis and they even try to throw out Swedes who won´t comply to islam. Paludan did a right thing and Sweden should do the same as Denmark.
throw out all these muslim terrorists and send them to their countries even if(they lie of course) the say that they will be “killed “in their countries. It is takiya (deceit, lie)
Trish McLemore says
When in Sweden do as the Swedes do.
gravenimage says
We don’t have to make laws targeting Muslims–what claptrap. We just need to start enforcing the civilized laws we have now.
Sun says
+1
FYI says
We must….
Protect Freedom of Speech.
OPPOSE blasphemy laws/’hate speech’ laws
{Do not fall for the ‘islamophobia’ trick:muslims WILL use these for that is what Political islam wants and that facilitates Religious islam}
Deport Jihadists.
Give ex-muslim ‘apostates’ full protection of the Law
{islam has a death penalty for ‘apostasy’}
Vote out of office the political Quislings..
gravenimage says
Hera, hear, FYI!
FYI says
@GI
Hera the Greek godess …!
gravenimage says
Darn typos….
Thanks for the correction, FYI.
jimjfox says
No, we don’t. What we NEED are laws targeting ISLAM.
gravenimage says
Why would you think that enforcing our laws is a bad thing?
Rufolino says
You have made a terrible mistake.
The Pope himself has said that Islam is “opposed to every form of violence”.
You must be reading the Koran “incorrectly”.
The Pope knows all about religion. How can the Pope be wrong ?
cloudmeister44 says
The Pope is “off the reservation”! so to speak.
“Ya can’t always get what YOU want”, Pope Frankie!
Why do we wait til these Dudes are senile to make em Pope?
But I abhor blasphemy.., so I’ll stop here. ⛪️
Dude says
What about burning churches?
Eur says
Thats halal.
DavidR says
I have never heard a good argument for walling off religion from criticism and mockery. Nothing emboldens an Islamist more than a supportive enemy. If that enemy is also mute, from fear of being killed OR being fired and socially ostracized, then victory can be claimed.
jimjfox says
+100 DavidR. All religion must be mocked, Islam more than any other- because it it not only the most offensive, the most dangerous, but the most RIDICULOUS. That includes both Mormonism & Scientology…
gravenimage says
I have my issues with both Mormonism and Scientology but neither Mormons nor Scientologists are waging violent Jihad against us.
Peter35 says
“We express our strong sympathy with the moslem leaders in our country….” You bet they do; like all western ‘leaders’ they are terrified of the moslems, but never seem to ask themselves where their constant masochistic sniveling and appeasement to a force which is and has been the enemy for 1400 years is leading their countries.
I realize I sound like a stuck record, but it’s now 5 decades since moslems really started flooding into the western world, and Western Europe and Scandinavia in particular, and still we are told: “they’re assimilating”, which is hogwash…moslems have NEVER assimilated.
Anywhere. And there is NO evidence of their doing so in Europe.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
tim gallagher says
I agree with your comment, Peter35. Supremacist Islam is never going to try to assimilate or try to get along peacefully anywhere. Islam is always going to try to impose its crap on everyone. Muslims began to show up in Australia in large numbers in the 1970’s. It has been the same old story as everywhere else in the world that has let Muslims in. I look at the neverending trouble, the whingeing the whining, the terrorist attacks by Muslims, the Muslim rape gangs way back in 2000, and compare it to, say, the Buddhists, and it is so clear that Muslims are always a thousand times more trouble than any other group. Nothing but trouble out of all proportion I’d say, when compared to all other groups of migrants. And you are right about our pathetic “leaders”. If they can’t see the problems that Muslims inevitably bring by now, they are beyond stupid.
Kesselman says
We saw how the Western leaders finally backed down when the terror-entity PFLP terrorized the Western airspace. Firstly they counter-attacked Yasser Arafat’s hijacking thugs later on they made compromises. And today the West is bought and sold to Izslam.
DavidW says
Someone should ask the muslim leader if it is okay to print a book that states that the foundations of Islam are false. If he says it is not okay to print, then someone can then point out where the Quran/Hadiths basically states that the foundations of Christianity are false (Jesus not Son of God, there is no Trinity, and Allah tricked the Jews into thinking they crucified Jesus when Allah switched Jesus out with someone else). Thus the Quran should be banned.
James Lincoln says
You may be onto something DavidW…
gravenimage says
Muslim leader: ‘We do not want it to be legal in Sweden to burn holy scriptures such as the Quran’
……………
Of course not. He wants Sweden to enforce Shari’ah law.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
“We do not want it to be legal in Sweden to burn holy scriptures such as the Quran…
Of course muslims would say that. It’s like a crook saying, “We don’t want it to be legal for people we steal from to complain about it,” or perhaps like a young bully telling school officials he doesn’t think other students should have the right complain when he bullies them. This is precisely why we need laws protecting free speech, to prevent tyrants like muslims from imposing their will over others. Muslims may consider allah’s demonology “holy” if they so choose, but their exalted opinion of islamic doctrines bear no significance to those who may disagree, like atheists and agnostics, Wiccans, Buddhists, New Agers, anti-religionists, are their books and the ideas they contain going to be considered too holy to burn, too? Who determines the measure of holiness of all these writings? Well muslims of course! why must you ask, you stupid islamophobe!
I find it almost humorous that a member of the word’s most violent and retarded religion thinks they’re qualified to define “holy.” It’s absurdly audacious, like the KKK member telling us what the “best” race is, and typically these “superior” folks tend to be toothless and possessing a very low IQ. Words like “holy” are subjective terms that vary from person to person, or jihadist to jihadist. One man’s sacred text can be another man’s curse, islam is an obvious example of this. It’s only “holy” to muslims, it ain’t so holy to those getting murdered and persecuted for allah. Nor is it holy to an atheist like me, who sees nothing holy about a god and prophet who were bigoted murdering psychopaths. What makes this preposterous charade so deadly serious is the fact that many leftists actually consider these proposals, they truly believe that crushing free speech is perfectly justified to protect crazy, violent islam. They’re all nuts. Positively crazy.
gravenimage says
Fine post, Agostino.
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
Oh, thanks. I accept tips. 😉
gravenimage says
🙂
James Lincoln says
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says,
“…It’s absurdly audacious, like the KKK member telling us what the “best” race is, and typically these “superior” folks tend to be toothless and possessing a very low IQ.”
Thanks, I got a chuckle out of that one!
Michael Copeland says
Burning a book, or a flag, is free speech.
Free speech includes offending people.
The imam wants the burning of Islam’s book to be a crime.
Remember, Islam is government WITHOUT the consent of the governed.
Go figure.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2020/07/islam-is-government/
Wellington says
Just the tip of the iceberg. The 90% or more of the unseen portion of the iceberg functions as an inveterate enemy of freedom across the board.
Anyone doubting me, well then, what “portion” of freedom is Islam OK with? I say effectively none.
Freedom or Islam. Make your choice because you can’t have both. It’s the classic either/or. And I challenge anyone to prove me wrong here. Oh yeah, please do so, all apologists for Islam, whether Muslim or non-Muslim. What “part” of freedom does Islam not have a problem with?
somehistory says
There is nothing “holy” about their filthy book. What is more, moslims don’t view books for other religions, even the Bible, as holy.
They may pretend that the “people of the book” are people of a Holy” book, but they don’t see it as holy nor do they read it with a view to understanding , to search for Truth. This is just a ploy to make it illegal to burn their filth.
The won’t stop until Sweden is fully moslim, no person can be other than moslim or be paying money to them in order to stay alive as a no-class citizen.
satan is intent on bringing the entire world of mankind to its knees…in worship of himself. He’s using moslims and o others to do that. He doesn’t want his filthy book to be burned, but wants everyone to bow to him and engage in demonic activity, those acts written down in that book.
Jayell says
The Swedish people, who created Sweden and everything that Sweden has achieved, decide what is acceptable or unacceptable is Sweden. Uninvited demographic flotsam that drifts in because it’s incapable of organising an alcoholic festivity in a brewery on its own patch but thinks it’s got a right to a bit of Sweden’s action, either learns how to behave itself Sweden’s way or has the decency to do what all uninvited ‘guests’ should do – exit the door through which they arrived before someone in Sweden has the sense to help them on their way.
Linde Barrera says
Great comments from everyone here, and thank you all. I believe in Free Speech
Forever because all humans were born with free will. But, it seems to me that Muslims
are brainwashed and believe that only they have the “right” to speak out because they
are “slaves” to Allah. Being brainwashed is
evil, regardless of what causes people to
be brainwashed.
Probably 96% of the world’s Muslims are peaceful people who do not adhere to, and
act out Quran verses 8:12 and 9:5. (Kill the infidel.) So then I have to ask, why aren’t
more Muslims killing infidels, based on
these doctrinal verses? I am very glad that
the vast majority of Muslims are not killing infidels, but I have to wonder why they just
ignore these verses. I also ask this: Can the creature be better than its Creator? I
conclude that Islam is the religion of Satan
because the devil confuses people and
causes enmity, strife, and hatred. Also
Satan has never and will never sacrifice
himself for humans.
Walter Sieruk says
The message is so very important that it’swell worth reiterating . The message is that a better ,as in a more intelligent and sophisticated way deal with Quran than to burn it is to expose the many errors and contradictions this religious book contains.
This has already been done on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Quran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Quran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]? The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Quran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Quran is right.” Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Quran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Quran. Furthermore, the Muslims claim that “the Quran is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.”
Futhermore, in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Eethi Caner has shown that the Quran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’ On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses.
For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.” In conclusion, the Quran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.
Even though the above essay was posted before, it should now be added that the last statement of the above that “the Quran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.” To put this in a Biblical way. As in from the Bible, it may be truly explained that the Quran is a deceptive work of “the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.” Ephesians 14:12.. [N.I.V.]
OLD GUY says
Burning a book is burning paper and ink. While I find it rather stupid to burn books, it is a form of freedom of speech and protest against what is written in that particular book. The book and the words in it are not holy. The ideology of what is written in the book maybe considered holy and sacred by parts of humanity but not by everyone who reads it.
Muslims/Islamics have been burning not only the Christian/Jewish books along with their places of worship. Islam has been slaughtering countless thousands of worshipers because their precious Qur’an tells them too.
Islam is an unholy form of political ideology that claims to be religion in order to control its followers. The Qur’an is the perfect guide for a militant dictatorship. Burn baby Burn!
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
While I find it rather stupid to burn books, it is a form of freedom of speech and protest against what is written in that particular book. The book and the words in it are not holy. The ideology of what is written in the book maybe considered holy and sacred by parts of humanity but not by everyone who reads it.
You seem to have an intelligent grasp of the situation, that’s wonderfully stated. To muslims the koran is “holy,” a kind of sacred cow that can get one killed for a torn page. The life of a human being, however, isn’t so holy if they dare to disagree with islam, they deserve the worst punishment for even the tiniest “offense.” We constantly hear about these blasphemy cases where good people are imprisoned or murdered for acts that wouldn’t garner a raised eye among sane people. This confused and deranged “morality” of muslims is, I believe, the result of their islamic upbringing. The teachings of muhammad and allah are not a good foundation for moral teachings of the religious kind. But don’t dare tell muslims that, it might get you killed or beaten, which pretty much proves the point.
Michael Copeland says
“History’s most obvious false prophet” – David Wood
Agostino Armo Pellegrini says
And how right he is about that. Maybe I’m just a biased critic of islam, but I do believe any claim of divine revelation should come with a recognizable rapport with commonsense decency, humanism, and a minimum respect for basic human liberty.
But I’m sorry, I don’t see enough of that in the midst of so much terror and bigotry for allah. What I do see is an ignorant and aggressive religion invented by people who lacked the moral goodness to understand the imbecility of those beliefs. Calling islam a religion of peace is the biggest fraud in the world of propaganda lies. Allah can’t be the universal creator, such a god does not even display the characteristics of a half-witted human, and muhammad can’t be a “best example” unless one is a child rapist, murderer, or terrorist. Even he said, “I have been made victorious with terror.” And even if those 2 characters truly were a divine partnership, we should reject their evil influence with all our might or die trying. Such a god cannot be trusted to bring lasting peace, happiness, or love; only more hatred, strife, and terror. Allah’s most important teachings–those that affect human relations–are evil, anti-human, and anti-freedom. It needs to be in the trash bin of human error.
James Lincoln says
Most leading islamic “scholars” care more about a burned koran that a murdered infidel…
Boycott Turkey says
Well I don’t want it legal in Islamic Muslim countries to turn Churches to Mosque and to kill Christians accused of blasphemy I don’t want it legal for non Muslims to be treated as 2nd class citizens and Girls kidnapped forced to marry there rapist and forced to convert to Islam
vcragain says
I find it quite incredible that any human just accepts some written book as ‘holy’ – er because it’s author/s say so. I could do that very thing myself….it might take me a few months to put it together, but who says my book is worth any less than yours, especially if I can conjure up some kind of ‘miracle’ story or 2 or 3 !!! I would like to know what ‘truth’ is as most of us would, but I refuse to just fall into some other human’s proposed construct that was dreamed up hundreds of years ago. We also have a few newer attempts such as Scientology, equally ridiculous……the most I will allow is that in my life during a period of trying to find what the ‘God’ thingy is all about, I did find a level of admiration for the ultimate Jesus’ sayings….several I regard as the highest thoughts ever….but that still does not mean I can just accept everything written in a book by a few other humans with a desire to formulate a story – and as for Islam, you do not need me to tell you how I feel about that horrific belief system !
Istvan Vogel says
I guess a lot will depend on how the word “mock” is defined in Swedish law./
gravenimage says
Islam deserves to be mocked at every turn.