Note the statement of Judge Anthony Leonard QC: “The appellant must have realised he was speaking directly to someone of the Muslim faith and who had already said to the appellant he cannot say that.”
All right. So Oluwole Ilesanmi said something offensive to Mr. Mohammod. According to Leonard, Ilesanmi should have stopped, because Mohammod had already told Ilesanmi that “he cannot say that.”
Thought experiment: if a Muslim preacher had said “all Christians will go to hell” to a Christian, and refused to stop when the Christian told him that “he cannot say that,” do you think a British court would have convicted the Muslim of “religious aggravated harassment” and fined him $1189? Neither do I.
Leonard’s statement is the plainest articulation yet of the new reality of British society: Muslims are a protected class. They must not be criticized, challenged, questioned, and above all, they must not be mocked. When a Muslim tells you that you can’t say something, you better stop saying it, and pronto. Or else.
Britain is finished.
“Christian street preacher, 65, who was once awarded £2,500 for ‘wrongful arrest’ when his Bible was confiscated loses appeal against conviction for ranting ‘all Muslims are going to hell,’” by Antonia Paget, Mailonline, September 30, 2020 (thanks to Henry):
A Christian street preacher, once awarded £2,500 for ‘wrongful arrest’ and the confiscation of his Bible, has lost his appeal against conviction for ranting: ‘All Muslims are going to hell.’
Oluwole Ilesanmi, 65, was given the Met Police handout in July last year after officers handcuffed him over accusations of Islamophobia while he ‘preached’ near Southgate Tube station in north London.
In a video which has been viewed over three million times, the pastor told police not to ‘take my Bible away’ after describing Islam as an ‘aberration’ in February 2019.
But the devout Christian was arrested again after heading to Bishopsgate, central London and repeatedly shouting: ‘All Muslims will go to hell’ last 7 September.
Ilesanmi then pointed at a shop worker, referred to only as Mr Mohammod, and launched a vile tirade of abuse as he ‘invaded his space.’
The former dentist told the victim: ‘You will go to hell’ before raising his voice and repeating the statement when Mr Mohammod asked him to stop.
The pastor was convicted of religiously aggravated assault at Hendon Magistrates’ Court earlier this year and fined £500 but launched an appeal against his conviction and sentence at the Old Bailey….
But prosecutor John Crawford argued that the line between ‘legitimate freedom of expression’ and a ‘threat to public order’ had been crossed.
Judge Anthony Leonard QC, magistrates Alexia Fetherstonhaugh and Andrew Hammond, dismissed Ilesanmi’s appeal.
He was sentenced to a two-year conditional discharge with a requirement to pay £300 in compensation and £620 in costs.
The judge said: ‘When he turned from preaching his views to anyone who happened to pass and directed his comments to Mr Mohammod in particular and said in an increasingly angry tone “All Muslims are going to hell” and having pointed at Mr Mohammod went on saying “you are going to hell” before repeating it in front of a police officer, his behaviour lost the protection to freedom of speech under Articles 9 and 10.
‘We judge that he went beyond what he was entitled to express directly to Mr Mohammod.
‘The appellant must have realised he was speaking directly to someone of the Muslim faith and who had already said to the appellant he cannot say that..
‘It follows that the use of words which we judge clearly demonstrated hostility towards Mr Mohammod based on his membership to that religion.
‘It was only the appellant’s good fortune that Mr Mohammod managed to control the anger and upset that he felt at the remarks and turned to the police for support.’
Ilesanmi, of Speyside, Southgate, denied but was convicted of religiously aggravated harassment….
Stephen O'mara says
..just another step towards the Islamisation of Britain…..
Rob R (Brit stuck in Britainistan) says
So apparently, we’re supposed to do whatever Muslims say is “allowed” or face a fine? This is according to some rancid puke in a wig? He says that Muslims make up the rules on the spot?
These idiots are supposed to be educated and intelligent people, they are total knuckle-draggers and so many of their judgments now sound like the words of particularly self-righteous and misguided toddlers. Fuck this guy.
Jesus christ, I so need for this pandemic to end so they’ll re-open the borders (and I need an opportunity or helping hand to leave this pathetic hellhole)
Walter Sieruk says
That Christian man convicted and fined [persecuted ] for speaking the Bible based truth .
For way for a person to discover the truth concerning the nature of Jesus is found in the Bible verse Isaiah 8:20. This instructs “To the law of the testimony. If they do not speak according to the word, it is because there is no light in them.” [N.K.J.V.] In other words, if a religious teacher has teaching that are in contradiction to the Word, the Bible, then that teachers is a false teacher who teaches false doctrines. The Muslim clerics, as the imam and mullahs, teach and speak doctrines about God from the Quran .
As the Quran in 112 teaches “He is God alone: God is the eternal begetteth not…” Likewise, this religious book which is the entire foundation of and for Islam further teaches in 19:35. “It is not befitting to God that He should beget a son.” In great contrast the Bible teaches in John 1:14. “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory , the glory of the only begotten of the Father ,full of grace and truth.” Likewise John 3:16 teaches “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son… Then just a little further in verse 18 it is written about Jesus Who is “the only begotten Son of God. “ Other places in the Bible further teach that Jesus is the Son of God as in Matthew 16:15:16. Luke 1:35. John 3:36. First John 4:14. 15. 5:14,15.
Moreover to be even more clear the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Son of God, Who is God the Father. As found in Matthew 3:16,17. First John 2:22,23. 4:14,15. Of course , it ,very much, needs to made even more specific . The Bible teaches that Jesus is also God the Son. As seen in Hebrew1:8 and First John 5:20. The imams and mullahs as well as the other apologists for Islam will try to “explain” this all away. As in they will try brush off all those Bible verse off by making the claim that the Bible had been corrupted, through time, by Christians and that’s why the Bible reads as it does. That claim they make actually underestimate the Power of God to protect and keep His Word safe and intact ,through time, and away from the corruption of men.
In conclusion ,with the above instruction of the way to find doctrinal truth in Isaiah 8:20 and in the light of the Bible verse provided it may be clearly seen, by all those who are willing to see, that Islam is in terrible doctrinal error and it is therefore a false religion, Proverbs 14:12. John 14;6.
mortimer says
If a Muslim appeared before Judge Anthony Leonard after saying ‘ALL CHRISTIANS WILL GO TO HELL’ (a declaration in the Koran), would Leonard have condemned the Muslim? I doubt that (along with Robert Spencer above).
Judge Anthony Leonard QC is imposing Sharia law over the freedom of expression that is guaranteed in UK law. The judge is wrong according to The Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 which amended the Public Order Act 1986 by adding Part 3A.
That Part says, “A person who uses THREATENING words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, is guilty of an offence if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred.”
‘Threatening’ words, however, would not refer to the religious belief that non-believers are condemned by Almighty God.
Moreover, the revision clearly protects the freedom of RELIGIOUS expression by stating in Section 29J:
“Nothing in this Part shall be read or given effect in a way which PROHIBITS or RESTRICTS discussion, CRITICISM or expressions of ANTIPATHY, dislike, RIDICULE, INSULT or ABUSE of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practising their religion or belief system.”
The Act says it is LEGAL TO INSULT ISLAM IN UK. Oluwole Ilesanmi was within the rights of this law and the judge was wrong to RESTRICT his right to criticize Islam.
Jayell says
“If a Muslim appeared before Judge Anthony Leonard after saying ‘ALL CHRISTIANS WILL GO TO HELL’ (a declaration in the Koran), would Leonard have condemned the Muslim?”
I think you’ll find that that sort of thing has already happened with muslims on demonstrations shouting out and holding up placards with that sort of sentiment. And nothing has happened. This is just one more example of certain groups of people indulging in dubious or illegal activities and either being ignored or being excused for whatever reasons can be dredged up, whilst others (usually of the more ‘indigenous’ kind) have the book thrown at them or the rules twisted to ‘teach them a lesson’. This is exactly the sort of thing that would have happened if the Nazis had invaded in 1941, so perhaps this is proof that we have an invasion on our hands in 2020? And who are the invaders?
mortimer says
Under Judge Leonard’s ruling, much of the Koran would have to be condemned and banned, because it solicits armed warfare against and the murder of disbelieving KAFIRS:
The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 2:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 3:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 4:71-72, 74-077, 84, 89-91, 94-95,100-104; 5:33, 35, 82; 8:1, 5, 7, 9-10, 12, 15-17, 39-48, 57-60, 65-75; 9:5, 12-14, 16, 19-20, 24-26, 29, 36, 38-39, 41, 44, 52, 73, 81, 83, 86, 88, 92, 111, 120, 122-123; 16:110; 22:39, 58, 78; 24:53, 55; 25:52; 29:6, 69; 33:15, 18, 20, 23, 25-27, 50; 42:39; 47:4, 20, 35; 48:15-24; 49:15; 59:2, 5-8, 14; 60:9; 61:4, 11, 13; 63:4; 64:14; 66:9; 73:20; 76:8.
Under Judge Leonard’s ruling, Islam would have to be banned in the UK as systemically ‘stirring up religious hatred’ against KAFIRS.
DavidR says
The U.K. might as well go ahead and officially adopt Islam and all of her tantrum prone children.
CogitoErgoSum says
I guess the preacher made the mistake of pointing to someone in particular. Probably not a good idea to do that out in public anyway but making it a crime seems a bit over the top. John the Baptist lost his head for doing the same to King Herod … but then Herod was king over John. Interesting to see that the UK would side with Herod.
Henry Schalk says
Just at the end of the video, the clueless policeman calls Oluwole a “racist”. Speaks volumes.
FYI says
“But prosecutor John crawford argued that the line between legitimate freedom of expression and a threat to public order had been crossed”
What typical snake tongued sophistry of the morally bankrupt parasitic lawyer!
Not true.what threat to public order?
The UK has a disgraced judiciary and a cowardly police force that cannot even protect its own citizens.
What a joke the UK is.
Prostitutes have greater moral integrity than many{..I’m not saying ALL lawyers..}of these legal parasites.
{I respect a prostitute more than i will ever respect two-faced,over paid lawyers with their filthy lies who use legal chicanery to richly award themselves for their dishonesty}
What a dirty,dishonorable,hypocritical profession these legal sparrows belong to.
It has nothing to do with Justice:it has to do with filling the lawyers pockets and belly.
What a JOKE the UK is:its government,judiciary and police.
Check Burry says
I think we all know who would have struck the first blow in this situation.
FYI says
The Likes of Leonard and Crawford will no doubt pat themselves on the back for a job well done.No pangs of conscience I guess:But of course having a conscience,is a concept alien to their profession.A full belly and a fat paycheck for m’lud and co:what more would you need in life?Just play the lawyer game of sophistry,pretending it is about ‘Justice’.
Crawford will perhaps imagine himself some kind of legal wizard for winning his ‘case’,another notch on the belt :but a triumph against whom?
A Christian Street preacher.
What a tremendous victory for the legal eagles ,eh?
A nice bibulous meal and a fat paycheck too awaits no doubt.I once listened to inebriated lawyers brag how they made a fortune by ripping off people.Integrity?Honesty?Justice?Truth?
Well none of that ‘nonsense’ for the legal eagles!
{i just saw Leonard’s picture which i would describe as typical of a British lawyer with that silly pompous wig they wear:a fat faced,smug, ponceworth}
Will muslim hate preachers be investigated and prosecuted by the likes of Leonard and Crawford:well of course not as that would be ‘racist’ and ‘islamophobic’ wouldn’t it?
As far as islamic supremacism goes,Leonard and Crawford are Infidels and thus ‘the worst of created beings’ koran 98:6:the logic and irony of going after a Christian preacher instead of a muslim hate preacher would of course be lost on them.
Let us not pretend this case had anything to do with Justice:it was an act of INJUSTICE because the real reason that man was fined is because he preached the Gospel.
Note:this is happening in Canada too.Street preachers arrested for {the usual convenient police trick}”disturbing the peace” and ‘hate speech’/’islamophobia'{for the usual legal trick}
Laura says
A bit harsh on sparrows FYI?
James Lincoln says
According to Robert Spencer, “Britain is finished.”
Unless something changes drastically – and fast – he is correct.
It may take several decades, but on the current trajectory:
The landmass that was “is currently” Britain will still be there, but it will become an Islamic Republic – with a new name…
The Brits can still turn this around but it will take *massive* heroic actions by its citizenry.
Mass demonstrations / protests involving millions of native Brits against their so-called “leaders”, etc.
Mass noncompliance with creeping sharia.
Etc.
The police will *not* be able to arrest everyone, and they may even decide to join the side of the demonstrators / protesters, etc.
It’s not over till it’s over…
gravenimage says
UK: Christian convicted of ‘religiously aggravated harassment,’ fined $1189 for saying ‘all Muslims will go to hell’
……………………
Would this judge have done this to a Muslim saying that all Infidels will go to hell? I didn’t think so…
Check Burry says
I recall the mus pushing an old lady to the ground at speakers corner, what happened to him, zilch probably
Clifford Fodor says
It’s very strange. The national church of England is the Anglican Church. Why is Islam being protected rather than the Christian church? Who is giving orders in Britain anyway?
Arthur says
but muslims often walk with banners “UK go to hell”
Joe says
The Quran says yes: All Muslims shall definitely enter hell with no guarantee of coming out!
Before passing out the fine the judge should have done his homework regarding passages in the Koran or called an expert. Definitely not the police because they all have been brainwashed by the ‘Common Cause’ propoganda.
eddie says
Aston Villa 7 Liverpool 2:
Muhammad Salah, Liverpool’s magnificent striker, certainly experienced hell playing at Aston Villa on Sunday evening.
OTTER says
With respect to the ‘legitimate freedom of expression’ and a ‘threat to public order’, the fact is that there IS a threat to public order BECAUSE Muslims know no other way to react to ideas they do not like EXCEPT TO RIOT, KILL, THREATEN AND ABUSE.
It is this THREAT to which ALL Western governments are kowtowing. Simple takeaway:
VIOLENCE WORKS
THE THREAT OF VIOLENCE WORKS.
Good bye West. Sleep tight.
Ren says
I agree. All that worship satan will go to hell. Muslims will go to hell.
Giacomo Latta says
‘Mohammod had already told Ilesanmi that “he cannot say that.” ‘
So muslims are our bosses or street judges? Forget that noise.
Matt Clute says
The price of telling the truth today is apparently $1189.00, still well worth it.
theresa says
Muslims WILL dies in a fiery furness because they are satan children.
Francis Weber says
Only the Muslim women go to hell according to the fat white dwarf named Muhammad.
FYI says
Yes.
muhammed the misogynist{or ‘feminist’ according to Linda Sarsour}said that{Sahih muslim 241}
Abu Dawud 40:4731 {An astonishing picture of muhammed}
mo was also a cross-dresser{Sahih Bukhari 54:7:2442}, a pedophile{Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236 who liked to suck the tongue of a little boy hasan,Musnad Ahmad 16245 ,a behavior associated with pedophiles}and a polygamist{Sahih Bukhari 1:5:268}..
and according to himself,a FALSE PROPHET..
“I have fabricated things against God and imputed to him things he has not said”
muhammed the ‘prophet’ admitting he is a false prophet
Al Tabari 6:111
“I have been made victorious through TERROR”
muhammed the ‘prophet’ admitting his sunnah is Terrorism
Sahih Bukhari 4:52:220
This is not politically correct to say but from islamic sources we get this image.
muhammed was a fat,White,polygamous,cross-dressing pedophile midget who admitted he was a false prophet and a terrorist.
When you give muslims back their OWN sources:’they can’t handle the truth’