This boy is a convert to Islam. Prosecutor Anne Whyte QC says “he had plainly absorbed this offensive and hateful type of message from somewhere… but it is quite possible that we will never know from precisely where.”
Why won’t we? Is it because it would be impossible to find out what turned him in this direction, or because it would be too inconvenient for British authorities to find out? It is virtually certain that no one has investigated what is being taught at the mosque this young man attended, or questioned those who converted him to Islam. The British establishment doesn’t want to face the possibility that this “extremism” is widespread and deeply rooted in mosques in Britain, precisely because the “extremists” present themselves as the exponents of authentic Islam. And so yes indeed, we may never know where this boy got these ideas, and so many others will also get the same ideas from the same place, while British officials pretend that all is well or turn the other way for fear of appearing “Islamophobic.”
An update on this story. “Eastleigh teen ‘developed extremist views and attempted to make homemade bombs,'” Daily Echo, September 29, 2020:
A 14-year-old boy developed extreme views influenced by the so-called Islamic State and attempted to make homemade bombs during the coronavirus lockdown, a court heard.
The defendant, who is now 15 and cannot be named for legal reasons, allegedly filmed homemade videos telling viewers how he would “carry out Jihad” and “become a martyr”, as well as creating notes on his iPhone which said “women are tools, an object to be used… a sex slave”.
Leicester Crown Court heard he researched rudimentary homemade items to make basic bombs and added some to his mother’s Amazon wish-list.
Prosecutors allege the Hampshire teenager made bottle bombs in his wardrobe – adding that notes on his phone had been found with the words: “The extinction of the western race and ethnic cleansing of the colonised land stolen by the western plague.”
Jurors heard how the boy had searched an article about Islamic State beheading 21 Christians and another about an attack claimed by Islamic State on churches in Indonesia.
It is also alleged the defendant had researched and made very basic drawings of a “dead man’s switch” – which the prosecution described as “components of an explosive device which enable the bomber to activate a switch despite being incapacitated or physically removed from the control by law enforcement attendants”.
Opening the case against the defendant, prosecutor Anne Whyte QC said the teenager added Islamic State songs and the group’s flag to his homemade videos – with one of the clips played to the jury on Tuesday….
During her opening, Ms Whyte told the jury how the defendant had added “rusty screws” and “shrapnel” to his homemade bottle bombs – the result of which had made burn marks in his wardrobe.
She continued: “He had researched how to make devices which were designed to harm or kill other people and had evidently been experimenting with the idea of using shrapnel in such devices.
“He had made a series of videos about the construction of basic devices using the context of his faith and beliefs.
“He made a video setting out his wish to be a martyr, again, we say, influenced by propaganda from Islamic State.”
The prosecution alleged the teenager told viewers of his videos how to make bombs in order to “support our brothers and sisters at the Gaza Strip”….
“He had plainly absorbed this offensive and hateful type of message from somewhere… but it is quite possible that we will never know from precisely where.
“The important point is that he seems to have responded to it and, in his own youthful way, to have embraced it.”…
j c a reid says
Yes, it is a bleeding Mystery!
Iambob says
Robert, it’s not because you haven’t tried. You can’t fix stupid…
Dude says
Why did he enroll in the cult?
That explains it all.
Ya get to kill people just like in your favorite video game.
Shoot ’em up, hotdog!
And don’t forget all the babes are free for the taking.
The world is yours – capture slaves, steal as you will. It’s the ultimate lifestyle, dude.
Jayell says
Why did he enroll in the cult? Or, ‘prosecutor says “we may never know where he got these ideas’?
I’ve just looked at a website featuring Eastleigh in Hampshire, and it looks like, not only is the place apparently crawling with muslims, but also last year (and this year?) it had a muslim mayor. The website also showed a picture of their Eid celebrations last year for which they commandeered a public park; and there they are, all on the ground with lumbar tuberosities raised in the air.
For those whom don’t know, Eastleigh is more or less a suburb of the historic port of Southampton and is the home of long-established, renowned industries such as the erstwhile British Rail and Southern Railway engineering, the epitome of ‘Britishness’ – until now, apparently.
How does one emigrate to the USA? Or anywhere??
gravenimage says
Jayell, please don’t abandon your civilized nation to Islam!
DavidR says
” … this offensive and hateful type of message from somewhere”. So much analysis and detail, but the elephant remains invisible.
Crusades Were Right says
Detective Inspector: “The victim was found in a pool of blood, face down on the living room floor with a dagger prodruding from his back. Bloody footprints were found leading to a broken window. Clearly a case of mur-”
Sergeant: “Inspector, we just found a note left on the table! Something about ‘Alahu akbar’ it says!”
Detective Inspector: “As I was saying, clearly a case of suicide… um… by drowning. Or maybe a car accident. Yes, that’s it… a car accident.”
James Lincoln says
Isn’t there at least one Sherlock Holmes left in the UK?
tgusa says
“but it is quite possible that we will never know from precisely where.”
Start combing the bushes, look under some rugs, begin searching warehouses around the docks.
We may never know who had the bright idea to allow Anne to rise to the level of prosecutor.
Michael Copeland says
English lawyers and judges are notable for their lack of knowledge of Islam.
They think they know enough, but rely on assumptions and fail to research for themselves.
https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/06/the-lamentable-shortcomings-of-some-english-judges-and-senior-lawyers/
tim gallagher says
No one could be as dumb as this prosecutor. It’s not possible. The prosecutor must surely have a pretty good idea of the connection with islam and its nature, so it must be a politically correct pronouncement aimed at making Islam seem innocent and “peaceful”. The usual bullshit from the authorities. So many of them are pathetic. But I guess it is a major part of their job to lie and run a protection racket for Islam.
gravenimage says
It is these days…
tim gallagher says
Yeah, gravenimage, it would be wonderful to see some of these judicial officials, and others in positions of authority, have the courage to tell the truth when it comes to islam. Seriously, as i said up above, this prosecutor must have some idea of Islam’s connection to this convert’s plans. There have been so many Muslim terrorist attacks all over the world,and plenty of them in the UK. The prosecutor must be lying about not seeing this connection, which a disgraceful thing to do.
gravenimage says
+1
andrew mckendrick says
Was not always so ,”so long as there is this book (Koran) there will never be peace in the world” William Gladstone addressing parliament in the 19th century. However our present day politicians are much more woke nowadays and would never dare such a thing.
tim gallagher says
A great and very accurate quote from Gladstone, andrew. Yes, many people used to tell the plain truth about Islam back then. As you say, these days, many people in authority are pathetic people who try to feed us rubbish about how Islam is peaceful and all that sort of crap.
Michael Copeland says
“We may never know the motive” was what London’s Police Chief said about the attack that killed a policeman outside Parliament, before the attacker was shot dead.
Those who have looked at Islam’s jihad doctrine know the motive, but police neglect to investigate that. As Robert Spencer says, it would be “Islamophobic”.
James Lincoln says
According to the feature article:
“Prosecutor Anne Whyte QC says “he had plainly absorbed this offensive and hateful type of message from somewhere… but it is quite possible that we will never know from precisely where.”
I would substitute the phrase “100% guaranteed” for “quite possible” – and then it would be accurate.
The prosecutor *does not want to know* where this “offensive and hateful type of message” came from.
As the very wise Frank Anderson often says,
“Deliberate ignorance constitutes knowledge of the truth.”
gravenimage says
+1
Jayell says
‘The prosecutor *does not want to know* where this “offensive and hateful type of message” came from….’ i.e., the prosecutor probably DID know where it came form, and that it wasn’t from some ‘evil right-wing’ person.
James Lincoln says
Agree, Jayell.
Very likely the case…
gravenimage says
UK: 14-year-old converts to Islam, gathers bomb material, prosecutor says we may never know where he got these ideas
………………….
What absurd kabuki theater this willful denial has turned into.
Templer says
I will tell you a short storey about me I converted to islam no longer may I add got told to kill my mum and dad if they would not convert it a evil s antic cult I know spend my life telling people how evil it’s Jesus as forgiven me I did not really know what I wa s getting into I mean look. At the nation off islam they say white people are devels eventhough Mohammed was white show how little they know keep away from islam I had to move350 miles away to get aw ay from it
gravenimage says
Horrifying story, Templer. Glad you did not do as ordered.
chrmenn says
I got married to a muslim, lived in a muslim family and it took me 16 years to get rid of all ties and interfaces.
I was able to raise my children in a Western style and get the whole tribe out of my life. Every word that is written in this blog is true, and sometimes it is worse.
I am glad I came out of it alive, for it was not always sure I would.
HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE people, horrible mindset, horrible way of life – for all involved: Women, children, animals…
If there is not truth or justice in a lifestyle, everyone suffers.
gravenimage says
Glad you escaped, chrmenn. And welcome to Jihad Watch!
chrmenn says
if a judge is that ignorant (or willfully ignorant), he is a danger to the public and should be immediately removed.
chrmenn says
…as such behaviour constitutes gross negligence.
If I open the net – the darknet – it will take me less than an hour to find all the connections and recipes for jihad to do gross damage, including bomb building.
If I watch and overhear people speaking at a mosk, it may take me about two weeks to establish connections to jihadis on site.
FYI says
For anyone thinking of converting to islam: just a few things to note.
{the dawah teams and islamic apologists will NOT be telling you any of this}
1]islam has a DEATH PENALTY for Apostasy.
It is easy to join the cult but it is not so easy to leave.If you leave islam consider the abuse ex-muslims get {the ‘murtads’ they are called}
“If a muslim discards his religion,kill him”
Sahih Bukhari vol 4 bk 52 no 260
2]It is not that allah is some sort of Arab version of the same God as Christians and Jews.
allah is something entierly different;allah is not the Judeo-Christian Biblical God of Moses and Jesus Christ.
allah {khayru i-makireena }is ‘the BEST of deceivers'{koran 3:54} and his greatest enemy is not shaitan {as you might expect} but ‘A man called the King of kings’
{Sahih Muslim vol 5 hadith #5611}Consider that fact about ‘allah’
3]Don’t be fooled by the ‘oh you don’t know Arabic’ trick.islamic ‘scholars’ deliberately fiddle the Arabic to hide the errors.Ask a non-muslim Arabic speaker.There are Arabic speaking atheists,christians,ex-muslims,there is the internet.For example the islamic apologists will tell you jihad just means some kind of ‘inner struggle’ and that’s all.False.
4]The more you read about muhammed the worse it will get:you cannot follow the example of such a man and be a morally good person.muhammed actually said he was a false prophet{al tabari 6:111} and proved it by his death{‘my aorta is cut’}Sahih Bukhari 4428,a statement that according to the koran 69:43-46 can ONLY come from a FALSE PROPHET.
{see on You Tube acts17 apologetics who killed muhammed?}
5]allah’s ‘perfect’ book is full of errors.So many in fact that by allah’s own criterion of koran 4:82 it cannot come from God{due to its imperfections} but from ‘other than allah’ which means it is entierly of human origin.
{The Bible is written by humans too of course but with a Wisdom source behind it:this Wisdom source is missing in islam and the koran}
islamic ‘scholars’ have been LYING for centuries and you can expect dawah teams WILL lie to you:none of what is written here will they tell you about will they?
6]the koran CURSES Christians for believing in Jesus Christ{koran 9:30},and the Jews {koran 2:65}and its teachings are completely at odds with the Laws given to Moses{revealed in the Torah} and confirmed by Jesus Christ{in the Gospel}
Just keep away from islam.
{If you are an ex-muslim or former convert who has since left:well done}
Art says
See how easy it is to weaponize youth?
From experience in the US I’d say he learned this business in the mosque he attended.
The parallel here is teaching Blacks “not to act white” and “not to trust or cooperate with police” and such. It is easy to teach this hate, look at ANTIFA and BLM, both started up under the Obama Administration. Of course it was Obama’s job to tear apart America and break it into myriad separatist groups based on ethnicity, sex, and religion, perhaps the one thing it actually did well. Think about the truth of that and look at the last 5 years with the all out assault on everything not Socialist. From Donald J. Trump to the police, never has more hate been on the surface in America since the Civil War and shortly thereafter. What is worse it that many of the people taxed with preventing the violence are Governors like Inslee, Newsom, Brown, Waltz, Cuomo and Mayors like Durkan, Lightfoot, de Blasio, Breed, Frey and their ilk.