Alexander Hillel Treisman is being portrayed as a “right-wing extremist,” since there are so few of those that they have to be invented. The reality has been buried in the coverage: the Times of Israel reports, in the 16th paragraph of its story on this, that “after Senator Bernie Sanders dropped out of the Democratic primary, Treisman posted on Reddit that he had to ‘save bernie.’ According to the court document, on April 15 he posted on iFunny, ‘should I kill joe biden?'”
Treisman doesn’t seem to be a Muslim, but as a Leftist with murder on his mind, he admired the jihadis for the destruction they have wrought.
“Man Arrested In N.C. Had Plan To Kill Joe Biden, Feds Say,” by Laurel Wamsley, NPR, headquarters in Washington, D.C., October 23, 2020 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
In late May, employees at a bank in Kannapolis, N.C., called the local police to report an abandoned white Ford van in the bank’s parking lot.
When officers arrived, they looked into the van’s windows and saw an array of items: an AR-15 rifle, the box for a handgun, a canister of explosive material, and a box of ammunition, according to a court document. Police say they towed and searched the van, finding more than $500,000 in cash, drawings of swastikas and planes crashing into buildings, books on survival and bomb-making, and a half-dozen firearms.
Later that day, Alexander Hillel Treisman, 19, reportedly walked into the bank and asked after the towed van – and was promptly arrested….
Now the man has been indicted by a federal grand jury on child pornography charges. And federal agents presented evidence indicating Treisman had a fascination with mass shootings and terrorist attacks — and had plotted to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden.
According to government testimony, between March and May of this year, Treisman searched online for Biden’s home address and looked up state gun laws, rifle parts and night vision goggles. In April, he is said to have posted a meme online with the caption “should I kill joe biden?”
Treisman bought the AR-15 rifle in New Hampshire and then traveled to a Wendy’s restaurant within 4 miles of Biden’s home in Delaware, federal agents say. He allegedly wrote out a checklist that had as its last task: “execute.”
After his arrest, Treisman was interviewed by Kannapolis police and investigators from the Joint Terrorism Task Forces. He allegedly told them that he has an interest in terrorist incidents and mass shootings and that he had lost friends over jokes he had made about mass shootings and the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
Investigators found video on Treisman’s cell phone that apparently was taken while driving by Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas — the site of a deadly 2017 mass shooting — as a male voice is heard saying, “There it is. That’s it. That’s the one, that’s where they did it. Allah Akbar! Ah hah, nice.” Another video on the phone, taken at Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport, includes a male voice suggesting it would be “awesome” to hijack a plane and fly it into a building….
wpm says
Who bank rolled him?500K found in his van(never mind the guns and other stuff that could also be traced) ,him a idiot 19 year old where did that money come from? I image his parents are not that rich ,could he be the stupid paymaster bag man for a larger terrorist organization ?He left the van to be towed from a bank parking lot came back looking for it? Of course he is tag right wing by the MSM right out the gate , trace where the money that is the outfit he works for.
gravenimage says
Yes–where did he get that money? Not really something a 19-year-old can amass working someplace like McDonalds…
silvergreycat says
*Yes–where did he get that money?* Ben Sales wrote *…The van also contained more than $500,000 in cash that the court document said was assumed to have come from his inheritance.*
source: https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/man-accused-of-plotting-to-kill-biden-is-son-of-prominent-jewish-attorney-646755
Candy Curtis says
Should everyone AssU/Me.
gravenimage says
Hilarious–how many people drive around with $500,000 in inheritance in cash in their van?
Pray Hard says
Reported to be an inheritance.
Keys says
Was the picture of Treisman taken at his Barber Shoppe ?
The police found $500,000 in cash in the towed van ! Who leaves that in a parked van ?
Lots of unanswered questions about this, like did he know the Clintons, etc. ?
wpm says
Maybe a Soros bag man ,the article from the Times of Israel in the link if you read it says he was “Autistic “.Could he just be the fall guy for someone else ?If he was posting doing a “hit” on Biden on social media before this would he at least be on the FBI or some other federal agency” people of interest” list you would think?
mortimer says
It sounds as if Alexander Hillel Treisman is a true Leftist, if not a Trotskyist.
How could professional journalists get the story so wrong?
gravenimage says
For the last, I’d say because *wanted* to get it wrong, Mortimer.
guenter says
idiot mortimer. ” Police say they towed and searched the van, finding more than $500,000 in cash, drawings of swastikas”. drawings of swastikas shows, that he was a neonazi- one of yours. the antileftwing propaganda here gets more insane day by day. some here seem to be afraid that trump will not win the election. but all this bullshit here wont help ya clowns in the end.
wpm says
If you read the link articles(Israel Times)Treisman was a Sanders supporter who wrote he was upset Biden got the win in the Democratic Primary .At that point he posted on line he was considering on doing a “hit” on Biden. According to the articles on links ,Treisman was “Autistic” had child porn on his computer ,and some drawings of swastikas .Contrary how you are linking him up with Trump or Trump supporters is a far reach. Treisman is a nut and a Sanders fan ,like the guy who a few years back shot up the Republican soft ball game. Sanders is not responsible for either of these idiots actions .Calling people who post on this website “Nazis” based on their dislike of Biden or the democratic “progressive view point” of America is wrong .At this point it is the left wing Anarchist who are burn looting and causing much violence in American cities on both coast and Midwest .The Democratic leaders governors, and mayors refuse to condemn them for the thugs they are.
Keys says
Well said, WPM.
And a reminder to the insulting Guenter:
Muslim leaders admired Hitler and the Nazis; they still extol “Mein Kampf” (My Jihad).
gravenimage says
The appalling guenter wrote:
idiot mortimer. ” Police say they towed and searched the van, finding more than $500,000 in cash, drawings of swastikas”. drawings of swastikas shows, that he was a neonazi- one of yours. the antileftwing propaganda here gets more insane day by day. some here seem to be afraid that trump will not win the election. but all this bullshit here wont help ya clowns in the end.
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The claim that if you don’t want to see the imposition of either Islam or Communism that you are a Nazi is ludicrous. I have told guenter before that most people here reject *all* forms of totarlitarianism, but this concept seems foreign to him. Given that he is a self-avowed Trotskyite, this should not surprise.
Then, what Nazi would want to murder a candidate to help a Socialist win? This of course makes no sense–but guenter has always been short on logic.
guenter says
again idiot @gravenimage. “Then, what Nazi would want to murder a candidate to help a Socialist win? ” if biden was murdered, that would not bring back the nomination to sanders. if this guy really said so, what i doubt, then he is mental sick, or he says that to hide that he is a nazi , as part of his false flag operation (or those behind him). same as oswald was not the real murderer of kennedy.
but i will definitive refuse now, to talk further to you professional liar, cause its to timetaking to refute all the new lies which u bring up in every posting to misinform the people here.
for example, i never said to be a marxist, trotskyte, communist and so on. u cant pick up one such “self-avowed” sentences. this are only ur interpretations when i corrected all the lies over here. i had also clearly said, that this quoted trotskyte group from USA (which had nothing to do with the french leftwing, who completely supported the demonstration and always supported anti-islamic laws in parliament) is totally nuts, and that their interpretation, that macron whips up antimuslim-hysteria is a serious political error and does show, that they dont understand that only the muslims themselves does create such an atmosphere with the things they do. but that does not mean that they agree with the content of islam or support jihad attacks. this is what slanderous rightwingers make out of it; but a wrong politcal interpretation is no alignment. if u was over here, i and some more people could take u to court all the time for ur slander and win. i know that ur narrow minded little head cant differenciate and understand complex issues. you are more silly here like a child; better go and play with puppets.
gravenimage says
More from guenter:
again (sic) idiot @gravenimage. “Then, what Nazi would want to murder a candidate to help a Socialist win? ” if (sic) biden (sic) was murdered, that would not bring back the nomination to sanders (sic). if (sic) this guy really said so, what i (sic) doubt, then he is mental (sic) sick, or he says that to hide that he is a nazi , as part of his false flag operation (or those behind him). same as oswald was not the real murderer of kennedy.
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Of course, many plotting murder are not rational–the same is true of rabid Communists as well.
Then I see that guenter here is also immured in conspiracy theories–why am I not surprised? On that other thread he was ranting about businessmen in democracies imposing Fascism, as well. Completely nonsensical.
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but (sic) i (sic) will definitive refuse now, to talk further to you professional liar, cause its to timetaking (sic) to refute all the new lies which u (sic) bring up in every posting to misinform the people here.
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Actually, guenter has never been able to point out a single thing I have said that is untrue.
And if he has decided not to reply to my posts, why does he continue to reply to my posts? Again, this makes no sense.
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for (sic) example, i never said to be a marxist (sic), trotskyte (sic), communist and so on. u (sic) cant (sic) pick up one such “self-avowed” sentences. this (sic) are only ur (sic) interpretations when i (sic) corrected all the lies over here. i (sic) had also clearly said, that this quoted trotskyte (sic) group from USA (which had nothing to do with the french (sic) leftwing, who completely supported the demonstration and always supported anti-islamic (sic) laws in parliament) is totally nuts,
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guenter has only ever posted here to rant about Communism, Marx, and Trotsky–as here and on the last thread he was spamming.
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and that their interpretation, that macron (sic) whips up antimuslim-hysteria (sic) is a serious political error
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What point is guenter trying to make here?
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and does show, that they dont (sic) understand that only the muslims (sic) themselves does create such an atmosphere with the things they do. but (sic) that does not mean that they agree with the content of islam (sic) or support jihad attacks. this (sic) is what slanderous rightwingers make out of it; but a wrong politcal (sic) interpretation is no alignment. if (sic) u (sic) was over here, i (sic) and some more people could take u (sic) to court all the time for ur (sic) slander and win. i (sic) know that ur (sic) narrow minded little head cant differenciate (sic) and understand complex issues. you (sic) are more silly here like a child; better go and play with puppets.
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guenter has said before that he could take me to court and sue me for daring to criticize the horrors of Communism and Jihad.
Anti-Jihadists here actually oppose this crushing of freedom of speech. That guenter applauds it and threatens to use it against us is absolutely sickening–but exposes the ugliness of his ideology.
Kepha says
Trotskyites–their only good point is their supposed opposition to Stalinism; but that’s only over building Communism in one country. Ever since then, they’ve been a relible cheering section for every Stalinist movement on the planet. Further, Trotsky himself built the Red Armny by giving the troops the choice between the possibility of being shot by the enemy during fighting and the certainty of being shot by the “comrades” for flight. He was the sort of sterling, Pol Pot-esque ideological “idealist” who would’ve made Russia a Cambodia writ large had he won.
And nothing is funnier than those Trotskyites who praise Castro’s Cuba, even though it rolled out the red carpet for Ramon Mercador when he got out of his Mexican prison. Tortsky’s murder was just one more case of cannibals eating each other. Maybe, dear Graven, you have gotten a glimpse into the twisted world of the immoderate Left.
Guenter: How do you know the swastika artist wasn’t a Mahayana Buddhist. I lived a long time in the Far East.
gravenimage says
True, Kepha.
Dieks62 says
Sofar it eems you’ve just confirmed that the only radical leftist idiot is you guenter!
gravenimage says
North Carolina Leftist who wanted to kill Biden to ‘save Bernie’ had pro-jihad video, praised 9/11
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Oh boy–even Biden is not Lefitst enough for this thug–how could someone wanting to murder Biden for Bernie be “rightwing”?
And more proof that many hard Leftists admire Jihad terror.
guenter says
no gravenimage, your sick babbling is only more proof that many hard rightwing dumbfucks turned into psychiatric cases who really need serious professional help. — before a few minutes i thought to replay again to ur last diatribe 2 days ago, but this here now finally convinced me 100%, that you are 150% unable to lead a sane, normal discussion. –labelling a neonazi with swastika drawings as a leftwinger, duh! this is how spencer does manipulate ur narrow minded little head. saying leftwinger and u believe it. any leftwinger would consider a murder of biden as the most contraproductive thing to do- not because biden is sooo leftwing as u claim, but because of the increasing withchunt against leftwingers which would follow then. only neonazis or provocateurs who work for government/police/secret services do such things,
gravenimage says
More from guenter:
no (sic) gravenimage, your sick babbling is only more proof that many hard rightwing dumbfucks turned into psychiatric cases who really need serious professional help.
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What? Most of us here, even if not fans of Biden, consider this plot to murder him simply appalling. How does opposing this savagery mean that we need psychiatric help? guenter does not say, of course.
And using profanity against other posters here is a good way to get spammed.
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— before a few minutes i thought to replay again to ur (sic) last diatribe 2 days ago, but this here now finally convinced me 100%, that you are 150% unable to lead a sane, normal discussion.
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guenter is referring to this thread here, where I dared to criticize Trotskyites supporting Jihad terror:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/10/trotskyites-french-ruling-elite-is-whipping-up-an-atmosphere-of-anti-muslim-hysteria-in-wake-of-jihad-beheading
And doesn’t guenter understand that with this usage, something can only be 100%, and not over? Apparently not…
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–labelling a neonazi with swastika drawings as a leftwinger, duh! this is how spencer does manipulate ur (sic) narrow minded little head. saying (sic) leftwinger and u (sic) believe it. any leftwinger would consider a murder of biden (sic) as the most contraproductive (sic) thing to do- not because biden (sic) is sooo (sic) leftwing as u (sic) claim, but because of the increasing withchunt (sic) against leftwingers which would follow then. only (sic) neonazis or provocateurs who work for government/police/secret services do such things,
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Actually, this is not something Robert Spencer made up, as guenter is trying to pretend–it is something would-be murderer Alexander Hillel Treisman *himself* posted on Reddit. And as left-wing as Joe Biden is, he is considered middle-of-the-road or even conservative by most Bernie Sanders’ supporters. Of course, few of them would condone this sort of plot, but that doesn’t mean that they support Biden rather than Sanders, either.
Then, is the appalling guenter pretending that the US government murders political candidates? What crap–citations, please. I won’t be holding my breath, though–guenter has refused to back up *any* of his calumny with facts.
tgusa says
guenter tried hard to give 110 percent in its posting but because its brain never functions beyond 50 percent we can only interpret about 25 percent of what it wrote. A perfect Biden supporter.
I would tell you that you are wasting your time responding to guenter but you probably already know that.
gravenimage says
Hilarious, tgusa!
And guenter is not just a Biden supporter–he is a hard-core Communist, as he has affirmed elsewhere. He is upset that anyone here is saying anything critical about a Socialist.
As for guenter’s comments, I am not really replying to him expecting any sort of rational reply–just exposing his claptrap for anyone here who is interested.
tgusa says
Thanks and yes that is what I figured. Guenter will probably be back but not right away as it is thinking thinking thinking on a new insult to employ. It already used dumb****, it could be awhile.
gravenimage says
🙂
guenter says
“And doesn’t guenter understand that with this usage, something can only be 100%, and not over? Apparently not…”
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poor nonsense girl: this with the 150% is a wellknown proverb all over the world. it is used to describe fanatic and hysterical persons. then we say that she or he is “150%”. most people in the world do understand this. but u are gravenimage and american, so how could you? i should ave thought so.
tgusa says
Is graven an hysterical fanatic a fanatical hysteric or just the garden variety hysteric or fanatic? If she is as you say a dumb**** what are you worried about? You seem, overly concerned. In America we always do things our way and 51/50 is what is used to describe a fanatic and or hysterical person. You know, people like you. If you were here in America I would have to notify the proper authorities of your presence so the secret agents could go and kill you because as you probably believe, in America 51/50 really means, shoot on sight.
gravenimage says
guenter wrote:
poor (sic) nonsense girl: this with the 150% is a wellknown (sic) proverb all over the world.
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I read widely, including the American, Canadian, British, Australian and New Zealand press, and in German (guenter’s native language) and French. I did an internet search and can find nothing.
This may indeed be a proverb somewhere in the world, but it is *hardly* well known world-wide as guenter claims.
gravenimage says
tgusa, here’s the origin of the use of 5150:
5150 refers to the California law code for the temporary, involuntary psychiatric commitment of individuals who present a danger to themselves or others due to signs of mental illness. It has been more generally applied to people who are considered threateningly unstable or “crazy.”
https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/5150/
Keith O says
Comrade Guenter, After reading all of your comments I can only come to the conclusion that you had best turn off your computer and go home because the whole village is out looking for you!
Keith O says
Just looking at his photo, he doesn’t appear to be the sharpest tool in the shed and his actions seem to confirm that.
So, what was he doing with over half a million dollars and all the other gear?
How did he get it? where did it come from?
As the old saying goes,,,,something’s not quite kosher here!
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
How did Alexander Hillel Treisman get his middle name? I associate Hillel with the Jewish campus organization
https://www.hillel.org/
His father is a “prominent Jewish attorney”, reports the Jerusalem Post.
In that photograph of him, what is the oblong black object sticking out from the neck of his shirt?
guenter says
gravenimage: “and sue me for daring to criticize the horrors of Communism and Jihad.” LOL. of course i talked about her peronal slander and not about her critic of crimes which happened in the name of communism, which i all condemned myself. and was also said to her and there do excist enough articles about it from me in my country and some others. and for my anti-jihad work i was stabbed with knifes from muslims and iis a court case also. so, her new slander was a court case of 5 minutes -cause she couldnt bring one sentence to proof what she says. to bad she isnt in germany, or i would soon be a rich man. and she would end up in psychiatry for her extreme twists and falsifications of what was really said. she understood less than nothing and i can only pity her. good night bad child, , dont forget b4 goin to bed to have a look if a communist is layin under ur bed.
Ecosse1314 says
Oh dear. I realise English is not your first, or probably second or third language. Your diatribe is nonsensical.
I would not waste my time arguing with GI as the difference is that she has fully read and comprehended the article whilst you have taken the wrong end of the stick and proceeded to beat about the bush.
john nail says
Appears to be suffering from AIS, Artificial Intelligence Syndrome. Algorithms not firing on all synapses, typical of first in a series, working the bugs out in follow ups.
don vito says
Appears to be suffering from acute AIS. It happens sometimes in early models, the bugs have yet to be worked out by the tweaking of the synapses algorithms. One of the weaknesses is Artificial Intelligence Syndrome, poor bugger.
Giacomo Latta says
So have your muslim ”friends” taught you anything yet? As for spreading your word, why don’t you try selling it in Russia or Communist (still that in name at least) China? It seems that roughly 1.5 billion people who have learned about it the hard way won’t be so welcoming to your tripe either.
guenter says
@giacomo latta: seems that u idiot didnt even understand my last reply to gravenimage, just above yours. neither am i a communist (they fight me), nor do i have muslim friends.morover, muslims tried to kill me, as it was said above (and as thousands of people know it) cause iam fighting the islam since 1979. so with you i had one more slanderer, whom i could take to court and make him pay. if u stay in italy, i can figure you out.—-the way it seems to work here: one idiot who understood less than nothing, spreads lies and slander about me, and you simply believe it. poor creature.
if u consider anybody a commie who dont agree with trump (leaving aside, that even many commies disagreed with russia or china), then u must whether be extreme rightwing or just so stupid, that ur IQ might be below zero. well, this here seems to be a site, where those find each other.
gravenimage says
I see that guenter is now threatening to sue others for not swallowing his unsubstantiated claims.
If he is so famous for fighting Islam, why doesn’t he back any of this up? Citations, please.
He wrote:
if (sic) u (sic) stay in italy (sic), i (sic) can figure you out
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Is this a threat against Giacomo Latta? Threats against other posters are not allowed here.
And he has said before that Anti-Jihadists are stupid. Note that he doesn’t consider this slanderous.
gravenimage says
Yet more from guenter:
gravenimage: “and sue me for daring to criticize the horrors of Communism and Jihad.” LOL. of course i talked about her peronal (sic) slander and not about her critic of crimes which happened in the name of communism, which i (sic) all condemned myself.
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Note that in his months of posting here that guenter has yet to point out how I have slandered him, and what I have said regarding him that is untrue–and his is unable to point out anything I have said here, either.
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and (sic) was also said to her and there do excist (sic) enough articles about it from me in my country and some others. and (sic) for my anti-jihad work i (sic) was stabbed with knifes (sic) from muslims (sic) and iis (sic) a court case also. so (sic), her new slander was a court case of 5 minutes -cause (sic) she couldnt (sic) bring one sentence to (sic) proof what she says. to (sic) bad she isnt (sic) in germany (sic), or i (sic) would soon be a rich man. and (sic) she would end up in psychiatry (sic) for her extreme twists and falsifications of what was really said.
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I have pointed out that many times that guenter has not actually spoken out against Jihad that I have seen. Yet guenter has claimed that he has some sort of sterling history stretching back twenty years or more–yet he repeatedly refused to link to any of his other supposedly copious anti-Jihad output. Of course, he man–as I have noted before–really have such a grand legacy, but he has made sure that there is no way to confirm any of these claims. But then, he wouldn’t have to–he might just post something against Jihad here. But he never has–including on this thread.
As for his being stabbed by Muslims, this is a brand new claim, and must have happened in just the past day or so (or else he has been very shy about mentioning this). If he has indeed been stabbed in a Jihad terror attack, I of course wish him a speedy recovery.
As for his claims made above, the idea that I would be massively fined, imprisoned, and committed to a psychiatric facility in Germany for noting quite truthfully that guenter has never backed up his claims with any proof, this is just bizarre.
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she (sic) understood less than nothing and i (sic) can only pity her. good night bad child, , dont (sic) forget b4 (sic) goin to bed to have a look if a communist is layin (sic) under ur (sic) bed.
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As I noted, guenter has only ever showed up here to rant about Communism, Marx, and Trotsky, and to say that Robert Spencer is a liar if he doesn’t spew Communist propaganda. All I can say is that guenter is certainly enamored of the horrors of Communism, and enraged at anyone else who is not.
Perhaps guenter calls himself something else, but he has long since exposed his agenda here–and is infuriated that no one here embraces this totalitarian claptrap.
guenter says
again laughed my ass off, @profen liar gravenimagine, oct.26 at 3:33pm
let me remind you that since we came across each other, you are to stupid to see my comments, likes and support on the starting site of jw. u always said u cant find it. ur prob, not mine
. and i must also remind u, that some weeks ago i did post here my arguments with an muslim on my account. u labelled that as good, but next day u falled back in ur sick irrational rightwing hate against any other opinions than yours.
opposite to you, i also included other opinions on my account, also from rightwing sides as jw or pi-news, while u would never include any leftwing posting, even if 100% truth was on it. otherwise u could have shared karl marx perfect argumentation against the islam, where he already in 1854(!) when not many of them had been here, argued in the new york herald tribune “to wipe the islamic mob out of europe”.
. instead of misinforming the people about my “rantings about marx” u could have said that i posted his anti-islamic statements. i can understand that u must be mad about this, cause it destroyed ur liars narrative about marxists being islam- and jihad supporters.
and that i was stabbed from muslims was in the 80s. i often informed that opposite to you i fight the islam since 1979. i was in hospital, operated, and its all in a police file.
gravenimage says
More yet from guenter:
again (sic) laughed my ass off, @profen (sic) liar gravenimagine, oct.26 at 3:33pm
let (sic) me remind you that since we came across each other, you are to (sic) stupid to see my comments, likes and support on the starting site of jw. u (sic) always said u (sic) cant (sic)find it. ur (sic) prob (sic), not mine
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There is no “starting page” of guenter’s comments, likes, and support here at Jihad Watch, as I have noted before. So this either does not exist, or is something that only guenter has access to, as his personal start-up page. In any case, he has never indicated what he is referring to, nor will he link to it.
And as I have noted, he has said almost nothing against Jihad here.
And again, guenter is unable to point to anything I have said that is untrue.
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. and i (sic) must also remind u (sic), that some weeks ago i did post here my arguments with an muslim on my account. u (sic) labelled that as good, but next day u (sic) falled (sic) back in ur (sic) sick irrational rightwing hate against any other opinions than yours.
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Actually, guenter never posted his arguments with a Muslim here–he just referred to it. I said that if he was indeed opposing Jihad, this was a good thing–but he has never cited anything specific, nor does he here.
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opposite (sic) to you, i (sic) also included other opinions on my account, also from rightwing sides as jw or pi-news, while u (sic) would never include any leftwing posting, even if 100% truth was on it. otherwise u (sic) could have shared karl (sic) marx (sic) perfect argumentation against the islam (sic), where he already in 1854(!) when not many of them had been here, argued in the new york herald tribune “to wipe the islamic mob out of europe”.
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This is very strange. What “account” is guenter referring to here? Who knows? Then, his claims about my “account” and its contents are odd, since I don’t have any account that lists opinions.
Then, he once again demands that Anti-Jihadists here have to spout Communist propaganda and quote Marx.
As for Marx himself, as I noted he hated *all* faiths, not for their content, but because he saw them as rivals to his own creed.
And calling Jihad Watch “right wing” for opposing Jihad terror is just bizarre.
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. instead of misinforming the people about my “rantings about marx (sic)” u (sic) could have said that i (sic) posted his anti-islamic statements. i (sic) can understand that u (sic) must be mad about this, cause (sic) it destroyed ur (sic) liars (sic) narrative about marxists being islam- and jihad supporters.
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I have long noted that Communists have opposed Islam, but only because it represents a rival tyranny to their own. I have, in fact, made reference to this many times before guenter ever showed up here. For instance, Stalin curbed Islam on several occasions–but no more than he persecuted Christians and Jews, and for the same reasons.
And why would any of guenter’s ravings anger me? I find them more sad than anything else.
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and (sic) that i was stabbed from (sic) muslims (sic) was in the 80s. i often informed that opposite to you i (sic) fight the (sic) islam (sic) since 1979. i (sic) was in hospital, operated, and its all in a police file.
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Odd if this happened that guenter never mentioned it before. But if it is accurate, then I am glad he recovered from this Jihad terror attack.
And yes–guenter has nattered on about how he has opposed Islam since 1979, without ever actually presenting anything to back that up, or (more salient yet) actually expressing any opposition to Jihad *now*. All he is doing here, instead, is insulting Anti-Jihadists.
doug1943 says
I do not believe that it is accurate to describe this man as a “Leftist”. He is insane, and is neither ‘Right’ nor ‘Left’. The dishonest journalists of the Left, in every article about him that I have read so far, leave out the fact that he was a Bernie supporter, so as to portray him as someone on the Right. We need not join them in their dishonesty.
guenter says
a little byebye gift of mine for a number of raving nonsense-clowns around here:
Talkin’ John Birch Paranoid Blues
Bob Dylan
Well, I was feelin’ sad and feelin’ blue
I didn’t know what in the world I was gonna do
Them Communists they was comin’ around
They was in the air
They was on the ground
They wouldn’t gimme no peace
So I run down most hurriedly
And joined up with the John Birch Society
I got me a secret membership card
And started off a-walkin’ down the road
Yee-hoo, I’m a real John Bircher now
Look out you Commies
Now we all agree with Hitlers’ views
Although he killed six million Jews
It don’t matter too much that he was a Fascist
At least you can’t say he was a Communist
That’s to say like if you got a cold you take a shot of malaria
Well, I was lookin’ everywhere for them gol-darned Reds
I got up in the mornin’ ‘n’ looked under my bed
Looked in the sink, behind the door
Looked in the glove compartment of my car
Couldn’t find ’em
I was lookin’ high an’ low for them Reds everywhere
I was lookin’ in the sink an’ underneath the chair
I looked way up my chimney hole
I even looked deep inside my toilet bowl
They got away
Well, I was sittin’ home alone an’ started to sweat
Figured they was in my T.V. set
Peeked behind the picture frame
Got a shock from my feet, hittin’ right up in the brain
Them Reds caused it
I know they did, them hard-core ones
Well, I quit my job so I could work alone
Then I changed my name to Sherlock Holmes
Followed some clues from my detective bag
And discovered they was red stripes on the American flag
That ol’ Betty Ross
Well, I investigated all the books in the library
Ninety percent of ’em gotta be burned away
I investigated all the people that I knowed
Ninety-eight percent of them gotta go
The other two percent are fellow Birchers, just like me
Now Eisenhower, he’s a Russian spy
Lincoln, Jefferson and that Roosevelt guy
To my knowledge there’s just one man
That’s really a true American, George Lincoln Rockwell
I know for a fact he hates Commies ’cause he picketed the movie Exodus
Well, I fin’ly started thinkin’ straight
When I run outta things to investigate
Couldn’t imagine doin’ anything else
So now I’m sittin’ home investigatin’ myself
Hope I don’t find out anything, hm, great God
gravenimage says
What is guenter even doing here at Jihad Watch? It *certainly* is not to oppose Jihad.
guenter says
daily on the starting page, which since months u are to stupid to find, nonsense girl gravenimage.
and in my account (where i often share jw-posts) and moreover in my articles for big german mags
gravenimage says
guenter has made this claim before–that there is some sort of secret German Jihad Watch that he regularly contributes to. He has never linked to this site, despite my many requests, nor has he ever described this site so that anyone might be able to find it.
He has never given his full name (nor even said if guenter is part of that name), nor has he ever linked to any of these German magazines, or deigned to mention their names.
He doesn’t back any of these claims up here, either.
vcragain says
OK so I see the pattern …..when a guy found to own a van full of guns & demo equipment is discovered,,,the RW nuts will insist he is a ‘Leftist’…..and the Lefties will consider him to be a RW Nut ! Well I’m a Leftie & I know of no other human on this planet with Leftist views who wants to blow up anybody….but I do see an awful lot of trumpy types in the news who appear to be determined to blow something up – hence I would consider this Neanderthal-looking guy with adolescent pimples galore as being a RW nut…! Funny that ! Considering that most of the educated world leans slightly Left-of-center, albeit not rabidly Left, it seems to me that getting to know more of the world’s knowledge & history etc makes a person much more likely to carefully consider what the results might be of taking up the life of demo-man !!! All it shows is a serious deficiency in brain-power – hence the clinging to extreme RW fascist ideas ! The loonies brandishing the ammo generally have no clue how they will run a country once they have demolished all its’ governing class – be quite humorous to watch them if it weren’t so dangerous to most civilized people !
Dieks62 says
Maybe you might consider moving in with guenter; you fit like 2 peas in a pot!
Ecosse1314 says
No lefties use bombs??? Oh ma sides!!! Have you never heard of the PIRA red brigade bader meinhof etc etc.
No doubt you will claim these are not real lefties just as islamic terrorists are not real muslims.
gravenimage says
vcragain, where have Trump supporters been blowing things up?
guenter says
damn, again i overlooked a little “gem”:
“Keys says
Oct 26, 2020 at 10:04 am
Well said, WPM.
And a reminder to the insulting Guenter:
Muslim leaders admired Hitler and the Nazis; they still extol “Mein Kampf” (My Jihad).”
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whom are u telling this? i know that better than you and iam fighting islam since 1979 and islamists stabbed me with knifes. that u seem to consider leftwingers as pro-muslim shows how brainwashed u are and that u understood nothing from what i already refuted of all this false claims.
and what u dont know, is, that it had been leading american and german capitalists who brought the nazis into power to murder the strong leftwing workers movement of this time.
gravenimage yesterday tried somewhere to deny this, but some weaks ago when i said this before, she did at least admit that henry ford was one of the main financiers of the nazis. (her bad luck, that she already forgot what she said recently.) so it can be said, that it was capitalism which did lead to fascism. it was exactly the same in spain after franco or chile after pinochet, where the same persons from the same class who first did fascism, who afterwards installed bourgeois “democracy”, what shows that both are not like fire and water, but only different forms of capitalist governing.
but i guess thats over ur head and u probably know nothing about all this.
gravenimage says
Guenter has said this before–that the Nazis were all backed by democracy; this was anything but the case–Fascism is not democratic, despite his claims. His claim that American capitalists installed Hitler is simply absurd.
It was, in fact, chiefly the democracies of Britain and the US that defeated Fascism.
Heny Ford was a disturbing case–he was deeply antisemitic, and was initially opposed to defending against the Fascists. He did trade with Nazi Germany as long as this was legal. Calling him a “main financier” of the Nazis is a big stretch, though,
The claim that I agreed with guenter on this is really bizarre–in fact, guenter hasn’t specifically mentioning Henry Ford previously at all that I recall. Note, as usual, that he doesn’t back up his claim with any links. Citations, please.
And no–Franco’s Spain was never a democracy–this claim is just grotesque. In fact, Franco was a dictator. And I have noted previously that I am quite familiar with the history of Franco’s Spain–it is just that I do not agree with guenter’s bizarre claims regarding it.
Giacomo Latta says
Ah, yes. A modern-day rebel without a cause but no shortage of hate to be spilled at whoever happens to be there.
‘’neither am i a communist (they fight me), nor do i have muslim friends’’
Not a Communist, are you, and they fight you? Where do you find them? Ever since they learned that trying to get elected on a Communist, Marxist, Maoist or whatever ticket was a hopeless cause they changed their identity to Green this or that. If you are an Antifa anarchy-loving fascist it makes sense you have no muslim friends. But no one likes a good street fight like Antifa so if ‘’Islamophobia’’ is the only pretext that can get useful tools from the Left to join you then so much the merrier.
‘’a neonazi- one of yours. the antileftwing propaganda here gets more insane day by day‘’
What do think of Jews? The only Jew-haters who visit this website are the likes of you, so save the neo-Nazi tag for yourself.
‘’proof that many hard rightwing dumbfucks turned into psychiatric cases’’
combined with
‘’same as oswald was not the real murderer of kennedy’’
Comic relief is always welcome here. The last quote only proves that you are a psychiatric case. Only identifying Kennedy’s murderer would have made that quote more risible.
guenter says
@giacomo latta
LMAO about ur sick hateful slanders, which -same than gravenimages lies and falsifications- dont have the slightest chance in public, outside this site here. cause thousands of people know me personally, and hundred of thousands read my articles in various big, respected mags, also conservative ones. (i did nowhere say, that hundreds of thousands know me personally, as gravenimage wrote. just one of her endless number of lies and falsifications.)
u freak out on a personally base against me cause u lost the arguments on ur first posting.
(for example, about kennedys murder are several books who proofed that it was not oswald; of course u dont know them.)
many things u say here are punishable slander by law.
for example, out of nothing u suppose that i might be antisemitic, cause u idiot do consider all the leftwing as antisemitic.
while in the past, the rightwing antisemitic propaganda always linked jews with the leftwing and vice verse; indeed several jews had alwas leading positions in socialist movements and had been behind the kibbuz-idea in israel.
whatdo you know?
i personally iam a supporter of israel, iam on all jewish websites here in german languages, and so are nondogmatic leftleaning friends of mine.
Iam a believing christian, what a half dozen church communities in a half dozen german cities where i live, can witness.
my book of spiritual poetry did include many quotes from the bible.
i had public speeches about a number of famous christian and mystic poets (as khalil gibran) where the media reported about.
commie groups, anarchists, antifa are not “my people”.
NO CHANCE for ur sick hateful slander.
in some postings i had labelled the antifa as hooligans and made clear, that they have nothing to do with the historical antifacists (those who fought hitler).
all I did here, was setting the facts straight, among a number of outfreaking far rightwing without the slightet knowledge about many subjects they talked about . this makes me in their eyes communist, anarchist, terrorist, whatever. be it. ur type of people said the same things to jesus (so iam honoured). they nailed him to the cross, cause they considered him as an dangerous revolutionary.
of course i refuse to talk further to you, with whatever new sick shit against me u may come up.
i had challenged u to come here and proove ur bigmouth in public debates.
we can all together visit leading psychologists or psychiatrists and u will see whom they declare as sick.
thats it.
byebye
guenter says
@ecosse 1314
the first person who convinced baader/meinhof to use bombs, was an agent of our secret service, mr. urberach. the italian red brigades have even more been infiltrated from agents. why should leftwingers should have had an interest, to murder aldo moro, the then-president of the italian christdemocrats, who had been willing to form a coalition with the italian CP?, who was with 34% election result the strongest single party. only the bourgeoisie and their organs had been interested to remove moro.
and u wanna know who else used bombs? the NATO formed the secret terror organisation gladio, who was installed in italy to overthrow an expected CPI-govtm in the next election. they installed a strategy of tensions with bombing banks, trains and otherwise (one day after the bombing of the train in bologna i was there)and claimed that the far leftwing did it. but after gladio was exposed, they confessed the truth.
also the murdered worldfamous far leftwing writer and filmmaker pasolini was victim of a plot. some years ago it was discovered that a mafiosi-close friend of rightwing ex-premier berlusconi was involved in it.
of course u will not know all this, and other dumbs as gravenimage may label this as conspiraty-theories (as if we would live in a world without plots and conspiracies), but u can find all this facts all over europe (and not only in leftwing mags) and even in wikipedia.
seems that vcragain also realised this incredible lack of knowledge and information all over here- nothing new about brainwashed americans.
Ecosse1314 says
Yawn…obviously left-wingers are so thick they need right-wingers to show them how to operate.
guenter says
wow… what a powerful reply… it refuted every sentence of mine….. LOL @ecosse (wherever ur from)
thanks for having proofed again and again that u have no clue what iam talking about and knowing nothing about all this
obviously, rightwingers need leftwingers (and a group of psychiatrists) to explain them a bit from the world and reality.
Ecosse1314 says
Not too difficult to work out
Ecosse1314 says
P.s.how dare you call me american
gravenimage says
guenter wrote:
@ecosse 1314
the first person who convinced baader/meinhof to use bombs, was an agent of our secret service, mr. urberach. the italian red brigades have even more been infiltrated from agents…
……………………………….
The Baader–Meinhof Gang (also known as the Red Army Faction) was a hideously violent Communist group, involved in a series of bombings, assassinations, kidnappings, bank robberies and shoot-outs with police over the course of three decades. The implication that they would have been entirely peacful but for the supposed suggestions of a German secret service agent makes no sense at all.
The killer of Pasolini has likely not been found–although one man did confesss to the killing, this was later overturned. The claim that he was murdered by a friend of ex-Premier Berlusconi seems highly unlikely–what does guenter base this on? Of course, he does not say.
By the way, after 9/11 Berlusconi said this: “We must be aware of the superiority of our civilisation, a system that has guaranteed well-being, respect for human rights and – in contrast with Islamic countries – respect for religious and political rights, a system that has as its value understanding of diversity and tolerance.” Bad dhimmi!
And then, eccosse’s nationality is right there in his username; the French term for Scotland.
guenter says
@nonsense-clown and stupid professional liar, twisted gravenimage, about a few sentences out of ur latest 3postings about me:
a) nowhere i wrote that franco´s spain was a democracy. i wrote -as anyone can see- that the same persons who backed franco´s fascism, after his death installed “democracy” so that D.&F -as the same persons and classes managed both- cant be far different than. –i expected that this will be to much to understand for ur little head.
b) i also did not write that a friend of berlusconi did murder pasolini. i said, this friend of berlusconi -a mafiosi- was involved in the plot of state&mafiosi who murdered him:
pasolini got an important manuscript stolen, where he discovered corruption scandals and the links between govtm and mafia. then he got a call to a place, where he “can get his manuscript back” for money. so he thought, someone stole it to make money out of him, and went there. but this was a trap. after his arrive, he was murdered, and they had catched one of pasolini´s boys and made him confess that he did it- or they will kill all his family if he dont.. as he was underaged, he didnt got much jail. after, he was invisible for many years. after the death of his parents he went to the tv and told the real story. than the file pasolini was opened again and the once stolen manuscript they found in the jail cell of berlusconis friend.–
you continue to talk about things u have no clue (while i lived in italy and published about pasolini many times.)
YOU ALSO CONTINUE TO TWIST ANY OF MY WORDS AROUND AND FALSIFICATE THEM THAT U CAN ARGUE AGAINST SOMETHING I NEVER SAID.
so whether u lie with intention and this are demagoguly tricks to talk me mad (what wont work out), or if u really believe ur own twists and falsifications, than u seriously need psychological treatment (i talked with an very good psycologist about you).
cause ur sick style is like this: if i where to write, that sunshine is yellow, then u would probably reply “guenter claimed that the sun is green”.
and then the next professional lies: guenter has made this claim before–that there is some sort of secret German Jihad Watch that he regularly contributes to. He has never linked to this site, despite my many requests, nor has he ever described this site so that anyone might be able to find it.
He has never given his full name (nor even said if guenter is part of that name), nor has he ever linked to any of these German magazines, or deigned to mention their names.”
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i had given u a screenshot how i acsess jw, and u didnt understand it.
so why shall i post my articles, which are indeed with my full name then, for the rightwingers and facists here, and for a sick twisted brain or professional falsificator like you? this could be dangerous, and as u know iam in an extreme bad, even dangerous healthsituation already. and folks like you might went on their own type of jihad when the trumpeters dont win.cause its the rightwing which , in their thinking, is so close to the islamists, and sometimes also aligned. same as the USA did secretly deal with the mullahs -as the iran-contra-affair brought to daylight, if u remember, and same as the USA did build up the forerunners of the taliban in afghanistan.
Ecosse1314 says
Whilst without doubt your english is far superior to my german, it has to be said that your rantings are virtually unintelligible. Could you perhaps stick to a german language web site where your literary genius may be appreciated.
gravenimage says
The claim that those setting up democracies are “the same persons and classes” as those imposing oppressive fascist dictatorships is bizarre. Most likely all guenter here means is that none of them were hard-core Communists.
Then, guenter presents nothing to back up his claims about a friend of Berlusconi being involved in a plot to murder Pasolini. Groundless assertions are not actually facts, though.
Tnen, guenter is still unable to point to anything I have said that is untrue.
And the idea that he is talking to his therapist about me is just hilarious–I think he needs a hobby.
And his implication that I say things only to counter his own assertions is ludicrous. I have been quite consisten in my values and my stance here at Jihad Watch over the past fourteen years–I am not swayed by guenter’s claptrap.
I do like “demagoguly tricks”, though. But I have noted I have no interest in whether guenter is angry or not over someone taking a strong stand against tyranny. That is clearly his issue, not mine.
Tnen, it is quite false that he ever posted a screenshot here–in fact, he has never posted a single link that I have ever seen, even when I explained to him how it was done, in case it was lack of technical knowledge on his part.
If guenter wants to make this claim, he should just link to that comment. I won’t be hoiding my breath, though…
Then–most grimly hilarious of all–is the idea that he is fine with publishing anti-Islam pieces under his own name in the nation where Muslims have supposedly already stabbed him in a Jihad terror atack, but he is terrified that avowed non-violent American Anti-Jihadists on another continent “might went on their own type of jihad” against him.
Just grotesque–and more proof that his claims about his being slandered are nothing but projection.
As for the last, he has claimed that he has a heart condiditon, and as such no one here has a rignt to say anything critical about the horrors of Communism, because it might affect his health. If his health is so fragile that he cannot hear anything against Communiusm, perhaps he should consider moving to North Korea–that would do it for him.
Jason says
These are two things I believe most sincerely:
(1) Islam is the worst “religion” ever to be thrust into the world, in so many ways, and Robert Spencer, Pam Geller, et al. are fighting the good fight, more power to ’em.
(2) While Biden is unexciting to the point of boring, I hold my nose and vote not so much for him as against Donald Trump, the worst president ever to be thrust into the United States, in so many ways.
So here’s the question, folks, and I look forward to your rants: Am I a leftist? (Hint: no).
gravenimage says
Jason, I think that Trump’s limiting Muslim immigraton–it is now down 90%–into the US is actually a good thing.
And Biden has vowed to overturn Trump’s Muslim ban on “day one”, have Islam taught in the schools, and to pack his administration with Muslims. I don’t see how this cannot be harmful.
“Biden: Muslims Will Serve ‘At Every Level’ of His Administration”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/10/biden-muslims-will-serve-at-every-level-of-his-administration
Is this a rant? No. I just wonder how you think that Biden is better in defending against Islam than is the incumbent. Awaiting your reply.
Jason says
The Muslim ban and his strong support for Israel — with Jerusalem its capital — are the two good things I can see from the Trump presidency. The rest is a complete disaster, perhaps most disastrous of all being the idiot response to COVID pandemic. It’s so Orwellian. There is no objective standard for anything; if Big Brother says it, then it is. Truth is what the Party says it is, like when the white house science office credits trump for stopping the COVID surge.
Apart from Israel, foreign policy is a disaster. Health care is on its way to becoming a disaster. A woman’s right to choose is going byebye soon with the latest SCOTUS composition. (and the “Right to Life” means the Right to Life from conception to birth: After that, you’re on your own, however poor you are, however unhealthy you may become.)
Freedom? Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose, Bobby McGee.
T Ross says
“Doesn’t seem to be a Muslim” but definitely seems to be a degenerate.
Ecosse1314 says
Totally agree not a muzzie but an extreme leftie. His main problem seems to be that the left can do no wrong. If however they do something wrong it is always the fault of the right wingers.
guenter says
@Ecosse: if ur statement above was about me, than it only shows that u understood nothing of all i said and cant refute a single sentence of it, only general phrases. Obviously Iam far more critical with the leftwing than u will be with the rightwing. Ur folks have the habit -with all their sick irrational prejudiced hate- to condem anything what a leftie says -even if it is 100% true and a proofen fact – and to praise anything what a rigtwinger says, even if it is an obvious lie. (and, @T Ross, the human degeneration is within ur style, not with mine.) Otherwise u could have welcomed the perfect anti-islamic statements of marx which i had posted somewhere before. If there was another name below it, u had shared it.–
So, Iam struggling same as much on leftwing websites about their faults, as i struggle with u comics here. But if someone has a wrong opinion/interpretation about the islam and the asylum problem, than this is a serious political error, but does not mean that those who did the error does really align with the islam or back jiadist murderings. this is the sick interpretation of hateful narrow minded rightwingers who cant think differenciated.
And Spencer does work with many manipulative tricks; the irrelevant US-sect he quoted has no branch in France, cant speak for the “THE” trotskytes as he claimed and moreover not for the complete french left, which always did support all anti-islamic laws in parliament. I said this b4 and u ignored it, cause it dont fit into te fixed narratives u believe in.
And for ur suggestion, to stick to other sites only: i never banned any other opinions from my websites or accounts, neither censored them or requested them to fuck off. Tis is the difference between an democratic leftie and authotarian/dictatorial rightwingers.
No single journalist, writer, professor, expert for issues would take any of you serious as an debater. If u all was over here, it was easy for me to organise a public debate, and then u would see whom the public would take more serious.
and, btw, i just posted this somewere for a number of oriental leftwingers around:
FREAKIN`OUT IN THE PHANTASY WORLD:
All islamic countries organised an boycott of french products, cause president Macron “dared” to be a bit critical on the islam, after the behading of a teacher. Just heard in radio their speeches on a huge demonstration in Pakistan- the usual nonsense about Islamophobia in the West, without mentioning the beheaded teacher or any other of the daily islamist attacks in France and elsewhere. Nothing about all this violence and rape, nothing about THEIR “Kuffarphobia”. In their opinion, they never did anything wrong and the others always critisise their wonderful culture without any reason.
So said Turkish president Erdogan (who just did build himself a little new Villa with 10.000 rooms(!) for 750 million Euros) that Europe was no save place for Muslims. Oops… was here daily a muslim murdered? Did europeans do the many archaic beheadings which happened since 2015, or have they been the victim of it?
In none of their antieuropean demonstrations, a single speaker mentioned, that millions of islamic migrants got political asylum in Europe in the past years, espec. in Germany, France and Sweden. That means, they get free housing, free food, and free money without work. Even if someone comes with 3 wifes and 27 children. And even if no one does match he criteria of a political refugee: Our asylum right is an individual one, where actually anybody who claims for it, should prove that his life was in danger cause of his politics. It was not meant for anyone out of a warzone, from an discriminated ethnic or cause of innerislamic quarrels (thats why all the ahmadiyas from Pakistan get asylum here!). So many analphabets who came for purely economical reasons- no single Politician among them.
When I once did interviews in “Refugee”homes, i realised, that there was one in any asylum-housing, who wrote -for payment- the asylum stories for anyone. Internal they laughed, how easy it is to fool the germans and their authorities.
But when Macron tells them kindly, that beheadings are not european-style, and that religious freedom not only means the freedom to live ur religion, but also the freedom,for nonbelievers and to critisise religion, than they paint a picture of witchhunted muslims, victim of islamophobia. LOL! This is like watching things from a headstand- or intended mixing of murderers and victims.
Ecosse1314 says
Really you prove nothing by your rantings.
Not sure why you are here as this site is called jihadwatch and not right-wing watch. Calm yourself have a cup of tea and if you really must post your illiterate meanderings then please talk about the islamic issues.
gravenimage says
guenter wrote, replying to Ecosse1314:
@Ecosse: if ur statement above was about me, than it only shows that u understood nothing of all i said…
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Ecosse is cleary referring to the violent Sanders supporter in the story above, guenter is more paranoid and self-centered all the time here.
And how is T Ross saying that this would be murderer is a degenerate a sign of “human degeneration”? That sounds like a pretty accutate assessment to me. T Ross made no referrence to guenter at all.
And I see again that guenter’s main problem with Anti-Jihadist T Ross is that he is not himself ranting about Marx.
More:
So, Iam (sic) struggling same as much on leftwing websites about their faults, as i (sic) struggle with u (sic) comics here.
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Why does guenter want to “struggle” with those who oppose Jihad terror? He has never said.
And “struggle” is a Communist buzzword. Maoist Communists who abused, tortured, and murdered intellectuals during the “Curltural Revolution” called these hideous events “struggle sessions”.
And If guenter supposedly posted something critical of Islam for “oriental leftwingers”, then it is odd that he is incapable of doing the same thing here.
guenter says
hahahahahahahahahaha @ecosse : leaving aside that i just posted about islamic issues, and u saw it, it is only u and some more who prove how illiterate they are. u couldnt refute a single of my sentences, never had any valid counterargument, u dont even understand what iam talking about. if i was illiterate, than no worldfamous artist ever had praised my work and no professor would send me his books to review or simply to hear my opinion.
what is ur profession? kitchenhelper?
i should really invite clowns like u for public debates. each one here would make an laughing stock out of hisself.
Ecosse1314 says
Where is the rest of the band?? I hateto see you blow your own trumpet.
Nothing you say can be refuted as it is all conspiracy theory. Please grow up
Ecosse1314 says
Oh and mostly unintelligible. You may think you are fluent in english…believe me you are not. As we say in Scotland you come across as if you are knitting a haggis in your mouth
guenter says
LOL.@ecosse: wenever rightwingers have no argument, they ressort to mock my “bad english” which isnt so bad at all. this usually comes from people who dont speak german at all (or any other language).
the reason u dont understand me isnt my “bad english” but ur serious lack of knowledge. nothing in my last postings had anything to do with conspiracy theories. thats why u couldnt mentioned them. u could had simply google a bit about all the subjects u never heard about.
gravenimage says
guenter’s bad English and general illiteracy is really the least of it.
guenter says
again @PROOFEN PROFESSIONAL LIAR GRAVENIMAGE:
in ur 2 latest postings u first had denied that some weeks ago we already talked about main nazi-financier henry ford and that u agreed, next u had denied that some weeks ago I had posted here one antijihad discussion with an muslim from my account which u labelled as good. as u saved all our talk in files, u could have simply looked it up if u really forgot(?) it So, this DOES ONCE AGAIN PROOF THAT U LIE WITH INTENTION; and none of ur fellows can deny that.
Ridicolous to te bone was also that u labelled as “communist propaganda” when I qouted marx´sentence, “to wipe out the islamic mob from Europe”. If someone else had said so, u had praised and shared the slogan. so, as u hate communist propaganda, the logical conclusion is, to let the muslims in, cause marx challenged otherwise. LOL! This sows once again how twisted u think and how much u need a pychiatrist. but here is again the posting which whose´s before posting here u denied with intention:
This post is a racist too.A person stabbed 10 people that’s it. That should be the news. What is the wrong with his ideology or religion? So it is. Posting this kind of manipulated news make you a racist too. And I have to say, indeed, your opinion on Islam and about Muslims are very poor, and not very deep. Certainly, You hate a community this is a clear fact now. Thus, it makes you a fascist too. Bad people are everywhere, in every community, but you are generalising that on a particular community. Shame!
Günter: ahman rahman: the person which u call a fascist -me- did antirascist work since a half century, rescued a muslims life, did build up a german-turkish friendship club , introduced oriental literature here and many more thinks like this. shame on you. this post is not rascist, cause this allahu-akbar shouters DO kill in the name of their religion, so it has anything to do with it, and this happens daily in my country and in europe. since millions of muslim are here, the rate of murder, rape and others crimes did increase dramatically. so it is ur knowledge which is very poor. better read the quoran again: he does order from all believers the longtime cheating and killing of all nonbelievers. the islam is indeed THE fascist religion of the world. if u believe in it (what is incomparible with leftism), then u must of course slander me. this has no chance in public, cause thousands of people do know me personally and my political and journalist work. hundreds of thousands in the past did read my antirascist articles. watch out that i dont take u to court for ur slander, what could become very costly.
Naseh Saeidi Aman Rahman It is the Islamists who are racist and criminal, they never understand the meaning of humanity.
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Günter “When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks” (Qur’an 47:4)– its to ridiculous if muslims does always claim that all this terrorattacks have nothing to do with their religion. the terror comes out of the heart of the islam; muhammad gave all this advice for murder and terror in the quran.
Aman Rahman Günter Congratulations for your doing the good deeds. Later I certainly said, your opinion and thoughts regarding Islam and Muslims are very poor and not deep, indeed. I can’t argue with the person who represent the verse of Qur’an without the context. And so it is, because you wanted to hear that news, your hateful thoughts on muslims is in your blood like nazis did with the jews. Kudos for your good deeds as a social activist and other, but it can’t be denied that you HATE Muslims as a whole.
I must say once more, your knowledge on islam is one-sided, indeed.
Aman Rahman Günter And one more thing I have to say, that your every post day by day, I read them very carefully, your post on my group also. And that’s why it makes me upset, I knew you who makes good POST, but this is so miserable.
Generally, I do not argue with everybody on everything! But if you want me to clear my opinion regarding this post or if you want to counter me with your “Questions” on Islam then you’re invited to the inbox. Believe me, it will be the Discussion not Argument!!
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Günter: Aman Rahman u know that comparing me with nazis and jews (dna) is again a punishable slander by law. and like several muslims u use the wellknown trick to label EVERY quote to be taken out of context. my knowledge of quoran and islam is deep, i even did public speeches about the iranian sufi-poets. and i have experiences with thousands of people through my life (iam 64) and there was indeed no single muslim except 1 who was not a horible experience of lying, cheating and violence,(one even tried to rape me- in an helpless situation after cardiac arrest!!!). including their nonbelievers, so called secular or socialist ones. even the mentality of those who didnt believe the quran was the same than of all the others. never experienced that with any other races, nations, religions that people did all think and act so similar. and about rascism: muslims are the biggest ones, cause they cant accept any non-muslim and must fight them all. and i remember, how often i heard muslims making rascist remarks against black people. till today, some muslim countries have black slaves. the arabic slave trade was even longer and even more brute than the american one. so its only you here who dont know many things. u are simply bigmouthed- also this is most typical.—— i have worked with worldwide famous figures of antirascism -for example, the worldwide famous novelist james baldwin, beside his friend martin luther king the main spokesperson of the US-civilrights movement, was a friend of mine. seems that all this persons of highly intelligence and prestige didnt see through me, how rascist and fascist iam -thats why neonazis stabbed me with knifes, i guess- and only YOU did figure that out now- finally. TOUCHE for you! Ask ur psychiatrist what price u get for this and get lost. i have no time to waste.
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Aman Rahman Your personal IMAGE can’t define your mentality, the DARK side of your mentality against muslim. Actually, on this particular matter, there is no difference between RSS and Your comment. Both are hardcore hateful and antipathetic to the muslims. In order to say the fact, a SATISFACTION works behind all these things. And talking about Quran, if you could really observed the verses, then never can talk to like this. The way you represent the verses is partial. You admit or not. I already wasted a lot of time talking to you.
Günter: Aman Rahman u dont have a single argument against all subjects i brought up. may it be muslim slave trade or whatever. facts who does count- not ur islam-interpretation. and theories. ur people are hateful and antiphatetic against anyone else. and many realise that these days. hard times for slanderers. byebye!
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gravenimage says
Yet more from guenter:
again @PROOFEN PROFESSIONAL LIAR GRAVENIMAGE:
in ur 2 latest postings u first had denied that some weeks ago we already talked about main nazi-financier henry ford and that u agreed, next u had denied that some weeks ago I had posted here one antijihad discussion with an muslim from my account which u labelled as good. as u saved all our talk in files, u could have simply looked it up if u really forgot(?) it So, this DOES ONCE AGAIN PROOF THAT U LIE WITH INTENTION; and none of ur fellows can deny that.
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I never said that Henry Ford was the main finaincier of Nazi Germany–this is quite untrue. Just falsely asserting that I did so is not of course proof. Citations, please.
And no–I have not saved records of the exchanges I’ve had with guenter–how tedious would that be? I comment here on average over a score of times a day, and on most threads. I certaily don’t save all of this. I just a good memory and know how to Google.
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Ridicolous to te bone was also that u labelled as “communist propaganda” when I qouted marx´sentence, “to wipe out the islamic mob from Europe”. If someone else had said so, u had praised and shared the slogan. so, as u hate communist propaganda, the logical conclusion is, to let the muslims in, cause marx challenged otherwise. LOL! This sows once again how twisted u think and how much u need a pychiatrist. but here is again the posting which whose´s before posting here u denied with intention:
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I have never seen that quote from Marx, nor am I able to find it–links, please. This is the piece, in an article Marx wrote for the New York Herald Tribune in 1854, where he is most critical regarding Islam:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1854/03/28.htm
But while he is quite critical of Islam and its Qur’anic mandates of abusing Infidels, he actually spends as much time sneering at the Christian and Jewish victims. As I have noted, most Communists really only oppose Islam because it presents a rival form of totalitarianism to their own.
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This post is a racist too….
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guenter has posted this exchange with ahman rahman before–back in June. He has never said where this took place initially. I suppose it is supposed to show that guenter also argues with Muslims.
But it also sounds as though guenter is crowing over setting up a “German-Turkish friendship club” and other useless bits of dhimmitude–none of this is acually very helpful in opposing Jihad. Doesn’t guenter know that pious Muslims do not make friends with Infidels? The Muslim seems impressed with this dhimmitude, though.
Then, it looks as if he is threatening to sue people again. But he has said that the only reason he has not sued me (and had me imprisoned and committed) is because I am not in Germany. Is that true of the poster he had an altercation with here, as well? If not, did he sue him?
And I see the claim again that he is known to hundreds of thousands of people.
guenter does make some good points regading the ugly nature of Islam here, though. That is certainly a good thing. But having no idea where this appeared and he still refusing to say, hard to tell what sort of impact it might have made.
I am certainly horrified if a Muslim tried to rape him after he had had a heart attack–was he able to notify the police?
And here, he claims he was stabbed by neo-Nazis, not Muslims. Has he been stabbed multiple times, or the same incident? Will he clarify? Probably not…
guenter says
@professional liar and psychiatric case twisted sister gravenimage: so on oct.27 10:43 she first denied that she filed all our exchanges- while she more than once showed up some of them here. than she had to admit that i posted this ahman thing b4. wile just yesterday she claimed that i never did b4.now she claims i never said where i posted this- in the same postings she replies to it was mentioned that it was on my facebook account. and yes i had been stabbed twice in my life- once by german fascists and once by muslim fascists. maybe next time from gravenimage and her trumpeting followers?
and then she claims that i never posted this quote of marx- it was just a few days ago. this notorius liar only needs to scroll back.
than she lies about mar “smeering of christians and jews” while everybody who reads the article himelf -what i can only suggest- can see that he defended them against the muslims. and right at the end of this article is the quote about this constantinoble mob where hse just claimed i hadnt posted it before.
how seriously sick can someone be before he gets treatment in the US?
and then this: some posting b4 she claimed i had no proof that berlusconi´s friend was involved in the plot which murdered pasolini! i had told that the stolen manuscript wich did lead to the murder plot was found in the jail cell of berlusconi´s friend who was already locked up for other mafiosi activities.this was all over the worldwide media a few years ago. anything what she dont know, this idiot simply declare as non-existing.so this dirty professional liar gravenimage does everything to back up a fascist!
guenter says
@proofen professional liar gravenimage: u claimed that i had only shown 1 antijihad posting today (this ahman reply). as everybody can see there was aslo this piece against facebook censoring islamcritic , which u must ignore, cause u are to stupid to find this jw-site and claimed his non-existence, and in my long reply to e. there was included an posting of mine against the arabic boycott of french products and their worldwide demonstrations today.—so u lie all the time.
one point i just forgot was this turkish-german friendhipclub u hooked on, to prove me islamfriendly. i had only mentioned this to rahman as he labelled me rascist. and this club was fully atheist no muslim believer there. AND THIS WAS FORTY YEARS AGO! a thing of my youth. so opposite to you i was able to learn.
gravenimage says
No, I don’t keep files of guenter’s rantings. That doesn’t mean they can’t be found.
Then, guenter has never said where this argument with a Muslim first occurred–he has just posted it here without any source–and will not cite a source now, either.
As for Marx, I never said that guenter hadn’t posted that “quote” here before–just that he has never cited its source–nor will he do so now. I have not been able to find any such quote by Marx.
As for what Marx has actually said in that article, anyone can read it for themselves.
And no–unsubstantiated ranting about Berlusconi (not Bertolusconi) is not proof of anything. guenter seems unclear on the concept of what consitutes proof. And no–Berlusconi is not a Fascist.
And now guenter is claiming that I plan to stab him–even though I have never threatened him, nor have I ever preached violence here. What grotesque calumny.
guenter says
LOL. @grapefruit
after she was catched many times in proofen lies, didnt know any more replies to my 2 latest posts to her where i once again proofed all her lack of knowledge in the things she talked about (as pasolini) and how she falsificated me (as about franco and democracy) this poor little girl wrote this:
“gravenimage says
Oct 27, 2020 at 6:47 pm
guenter’s bad English and general illiteracy is really the least of it.
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then pls show us how perfect ur german is and lets further talk in german.
and, btw, every normal and sane person, so obviously proofen wrong and many times catched in lies (as “he never had posted here something antijihad”) had apologised. but what can someone expect from such braintwisted creatures? character?
anyway, if u give me a adress (can be the one of ur lawyer, manager or a post office box) i shall invite you to some debates over here, including famous artists, professors and other well respected people, and then we let the public decide, whom they considered as illeterate and whom not, ok, bigmouthed?
and, btw, here is one of my today postings on the jw-website (3rd antijihad posting today)which u always claimed as nonexistend or that u couldnt find it:
gravenimage says
I do actually have other things to do than reply to all of guenter’s rantings here.
And, again, he does not say what I have supposedly gotten wrong.
And I have noted that while I read and speak some German, that I am not fluent in it. My main point though, is that one being fluent or not in any language has little to do with whether what one has to say is cogent or not. It wasn’t his poor grasp of English that has led guenter to endlessly rant about Communism.
And no–guenter never has posted any anti-Jihad comments here–unless he wants to include some sort of conversation he may or may not have had with some Muslim. This is Jihad Watch–there is, grimly, a wealth of material here–but guenter has never spoken out against any of the Jihad savagery he sees here. He just rants about Communism and incoherently threatens Anti-Jihdadists here, instead.
Giacomo Latta says
”then pls show us how perfect ur german is and lets further talk in german.”
Dear bad mix of rage, hate and non-prescription drugs (yes, you, guenter),
This reply of yours to gravenimage’s statement : ”guenter’s bad English and general illiteracy is really the least of it.” shows something worse than your obvious lack of expressing your own thought(?) in English, and that is your total incapacity to read and understand what has been written in English. She was not critiquing your ability to communicate in English, which is what I am doing. She stated, if she cares to back me up, that your inability to express yourself in English is simply neither a major issue nor a minor issue with her.
So I suggest you stop wasting our time with your endless drivel that no one can understand unless they have the time to interpret what is at least 50% impossible to interpret at the best of times.
gravenimage says
True, Giacomo–I believe the main problems with guenter lie outside his proficiency (or lack of same) in the English language.
guenter says
Günter
indeed, facebook does since long ban islamcritics! some very harmless critic! i also was sometimes banned for 3 weeks. but more and more people in germany take facebook to court and mostly do win, cause selfmade fb-rules dont stand above the law of a country. what is not against our laws, this i can post.
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i think i have enough material now for publications in europe which does show the people, how dangerously stupid american rightwingers are- replacing arguments with lies,slander and falsifications.
thanks to gravenimage and all for their funny entertainments.
gravenimage says
Wait–instead of taking a stand against Jihad, guenter wants to rant against Anti-JIhadists?
I ask again, what is he even doing here? Clearly, it has nothing to do with opposing the horrors of Islam.
guenter says
oh, and here i just saw the same sick shit again. alone today i had 3 antijihadist postings here which she simply ignored,so that she can continue with her notorius lies. poor poor creature! and so are all the others who agree with her lies instead of calling her on it.
seems that the USA needs a lot more psychiatrists.
gravenimage says
I have warned guenter before that using profanity is a good way to get banned here.
guenter says
yeterday i overlooked a little piece from twisted sister gravenimage:
Ecosse is cleary referring to the violent Sanders supporter in the story above, guenter is more paranoid and self-centered all the time here.
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as his and T.´s posting had exactly been below my posting, there was a possibility that they meant me. its not my fault if the postings here not always appear in the right order below or above to the postings they reply to.
the paranoia is all hers co.: she better shall read the dylan poem again.
and sentences as “why does guenter struggle against the anti-jihadists here?” shows once again how twisted her brain still is, after all her lies, falsifications and demagoguly trick i already exposed.
iam struggling against this lies and slander only; otherwise i did much longer antijiad work than she. she lied i never had any anti-jihad posting here. so today i repeated one and posted 2 more here.1 from the jw-site she is to stupid to find and declared it as non-existing. now she is silent. with every new posting she only confirms more what she tried to deny: what a twisted dirty tricktster she is.
funny enough, that she declares the word struggle (excisting in any language) as an maoist one: while knowing that iam not a maoist at all. but such psychiatric babbling is no more worth any reply. if such silly tricks are her last weaposn, then i can only pity her psychiatrists for the incredible amount of work they will have with her. an hopeles case. maybe soon the first jihadist for trump.
gravenimage says
No, Anti-Jihadists are not Jihadists. This from guenter is just increasingly bizarre.
guenter says
gravenimage says
Oct 28, 2020 at 12:13 am
I have warned guenter before that using profanity is a good way to get banned here.
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then why are u not banned here since long? u did nothing else than slandering me several times. a type of slander, which is punishable due to the laws of my country. and they count, when u attack me. not, if the US-laws may allow u any slander against leftleaning persons.
and if u wanna go against me for doubting ur mental healt i would be more than happy to end up at court with you. i talked with a pychologist and a psychiatrist about you who could xeplain to any court that something is wrong with you and the way u twist any word, any meaning around and falsificate it that u can argue against things never said. this is an obvious mental disturb.
and the differance between an democratic left and an dictatorial slanderous rightwinger is, that i never banned other opinions from my websites and accounts and never censored anyone. if u or ur kind of fellows wanna do so, i can perfectly use this: “freedom and democracy” as THEY mean it!
guenter says
HOW CRIMINAL IS GRAVENIMAGE?
THERE IS AN LOCKED UP MAFIABOSS WHO WAS JUDGED AGAIN THEN FOR BEING AN IMPORTANT PART OF AN MURDER PLOT AGAINST AN WORLDWIDE FAMOUS ARTIST: SOME PROOFS FOUND IN HIS JAILCELL INCLUDED PASOLINIS STOLEN MANUSCRIPT WITH WHOM THEY CALLED HIM TO THE PLACE THEY MURDERED HIM.
I HAD WRITTEN THAT AND GRAVENIMAGE LABELS ALL THIS PROOFS WHICH THE JUDGE CONSIDERED AS “UNSUBSTANTIATED RANTS OF GUENTER” !!!
SO THE JUDGE WAS ALSO MADE UP OF UNSUBSTANTIATED RANTERS OR WHAT?
THIS CLAIM SHOWS HOW SICK SHE IS AND MORE OVER BACKING UP HARDCORE CRIMINALS
THATS WHY I WILL REFUSE TO TALK FURTHER TO SUCH A LIVING MADNESS.
and that she took my obviously ironic polemic about her “stabbing me” serious, showed again that anyway she always understands nothing or just what she wants to understand.
Giacomo Latta says
from the Cambridge Dictionary:
slander – a false spoken statement about someone that damages their reputation, or the making of such a statement
A minor point, perhaps, but nobody has spoken badly about you so no slander is involved. If you are implying that various visitors to this site are impugning your reputation in some way other than spoken and not simply disagreeing with your arguments, then what is your reputation? You are a total unknown where I live and will stay that way as long as you think your one-name moniker puts you on the same level as Rasputin or Charlemagne.
But if you think you have a great reputation, then for what? Writing letters to ”big german mags?” Does your résumé include wasting people’s time with unintelligible blather?
gravenimage says
guenter has tried to derail this thread, and contributes nothing of value here.