Why, this is just very, very unkind of the people who are calling members of the Makkah Mosque rude names. It would be so nice if people didn’t do that. And yet there are a few lingering questions. People are rude to one another all the time. Many people have been called unkind things on the street and online. Yet most of the time, there are no articles in any newspapers about this. Why is the situation different in the case of the Makkah Mosque? Well, that’s obvious!, you will say. It’s because Muslims in the United Kingdom are not just called rude names, but brutalized: “women have had scarves snatched in appalling attacks.”
Well, that may be, although many such claims have turned out to have been false, notably that of Yasmin Seweid, who got international headlines for falsely claiming that Trump supporters tore off her hijab in the New York subway. If this is really happening among the congregants of the Makkah Mosque, the perpetrators should be tried for assault in every case that such a prosecution is genuinely warranted.
But this article makes a point it did not intend to make. Qari Asam is trying to show how bad Muslims have it in Britain, and all he can come up with are unkind words and unsupported claims that women have had their hijabs snatched off. Contrast that with the stories of Islamic jihad activity that we post here regularly. Which is more serious? Yet which gets more establishment media attention?
The problem here is that the word “Islamophobia” is used not just to refer to attacks of innocent Muslims, which are never justified, but also to honest and accurate analysis of how Islamic jihadis use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence. Is Qari Asim trying to silence such analysis by conflating it with the rude things his congregants have been called? Are insults really comparable to beheadings, suicide bombings, and the like? Yet all reporting on the latter is called “Islamophobia” as much as the insults are. Qari Asim has unwittingly demonstrated that Muslims are not actually suffering in Britain any more than anyone else who has ever been called a rude name on the street or online. But actual vigilante attacks against innocent Muslims are so thin on the ground that this will have to do, and in any case it serves to further the Leftist/Islamic war against the freedom of speech.
“Anti-Muslim online abuse ‘leaving scars’ on Leeds victims as Imam Qari Asim calls for city-wide action,” by Abbey Maclure, Yorkshire Evening Post, December 5, 2020 (thanks to Henry):
Qari Asim MBE, imam at Makkah Mosque and a government adviser on Islamophobia, says hate speech “has left scars” on victims in Leeds.
His congregation members have been called “Bin Ladens”, “ISIS supporters” and yelled at in the street, while women have had scarves snatched in appalling attacks.
Leeds City Council research shows that Muslim people are most likely to be targeted by religiously-motivated hate crime than any other community in the city.
And online abuse can have an equally devastating impact on Muslims in Leeds, Imam Asim said, creating a sense of fear and dividing communities.
It comes as Yorkshire Evening Post’s Call it Out campaign shares real-life experiences of abusive online behaviour, calling on the city to unite in the fight against abuse.
Imam Asim told the YEP: “I have personally experienced online abuse on a regular basis.
“Many of my congregation members have experienced anti-Muslim hatred: being called “Bin Ladens”, “ISIS supporters”, told to “go back home”.
“Such anti-Muslim abuse has left scars on people and created a sense of fear not only for the victims but also families and friends….
CogitoErgoSum says
Call somebody a rude name for insulting your religion and you are rude but cut off someone’s head for insulting your religion and you are a Lion of Islam.
gravenimage says
Grimly spot on.
william carr says
It is my understanding that Moose Limbs insult and curse non Muslims every time they pray. This abuse is especially directed against the Jews
Lion heart says
William : Muslims during their five daily prayers cause Jews and Christians 17 times whether many of them don’t realize it according to Quran chapter 1
Dave from San Antonio says
The feeling of being ‘offended’ and ‘hurt’ by words is a warning indicator that is showing you have some serious unresolved issues within yourself. By-the-way…how does it feel to be so weak and pathetic that mere words can hurt you?
maria says
the devil´s servant imam and all the other criminals should be deported immediately
Wellington says
Rudeness doesn’t harm or kill. Islam both harms and kills as evidenced by the over 38,000 documented Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide just since 9/11. The very character of Mohammed reveals the inherent violence rooted in Islam.
Moreover, Muslims are highly rude to people of other faiths on a very consistent basis, a “consistency” that has lasted, let’s see now, for some 1400 years. Such rudeness includes the entire “dhimmi phenomenon.”
Additionally, I am so sick of Muslims dishing it out but not being able to take it. Such is ALWAYS a sign of a deficient human being. Islam produces huge amounts of such human beings and in so many ways.
Westman says
I can’t think of any culture that purposefully stands out in dress, manners, and language that doesn’t experience rudeness when the very appearance shouts, “I don’t want to be like you” and, “This is not my country”. And then they get upset when someone notices and makes a rude comment. Does anyone believe Iman Qari Asim hasn’t made rude comments about Jews?
Shave off the excessive beards, wear Western clothes, learn the language, and join the social organizations of the natives. Ah, you say you can’t because your religion says you must shun the kufar. Well, then it’s your problem, not ours, that you have given yourself to an organization that is unable to integrate or demonstrate its worthyness to be trusted.
James Lincoln says
Excellent post, Westman.
My compliments…
gravenimage says
Qari Asim does the Taqiyya-spewing “interfaith” thing with hopeful Jewish people.
Westman says
And something else with his close associates. Islam and honesty are part-time companions.
Check Burry says
Spot on, every word.
Keith O says
Boo Hoo, cry me a river of tears.
They feel threatened because someone called them nasty names whilst the mudslimes rape, rob, deal drugs, murder, blow shit up etc. AND the media reports their story in the papers?
Just more of the smoke and mirrors they are using to conceal the invasion.
Imagine the reaction if a newspaper put up a daily account of what the mudslimes are doing each and every day.
gravenimage says
So true.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Sticks and stones will break your bones, but names will surely hurt us.
Jayell says
What names? “Bin Ladens”, “ISIS supporters”, and being told to “go back home”?
But we’ve had public surveys involving muslims in the UK showing significant support for specimens like Bin Laden and the aims of ISIS (enough of their number have disappeared to Syria to be involved there and become ‘jihadi brides, etc), so these ‘names’ are likely to be just statements of fact a lot of the time. As for getting upset about being told to ‘go back home’, we’ve often heard these people say that they don’t agree with UK laws and culture and don’t consider themselves to be ‘Blritish’, so presumably they wouldn’t identify with the UK obviously as their ‘home’ in the first place (they’d certainly treat their ‘fellow citizens’ with a bit more respect if they did).
The article doesn’t mention that Leeds has hosted one of the UK’s biggest Jewish populations for a very long time, so, if these Disciples of the Great Prophet have been indulging in some of the usual ‘friendly behaviour towards our Jewish friends in Leeds that they’ve had a habit of doing elsewhere, one has to wonder if some of the ‘unfriendliness’ about which they’re whingeing isn’t perfectly justified.
It’s strange that certain groups of people don’t seem to understand that social acceptance has to be earned by making oneself socially acceptable – unless, of course. one believes that other peoples’ sensibilities simply don’t matter, in which case one tends to find that other people acquire a similar attitude towards one’s own sensibilities in return.
mortimer says
Thou shalt not be rude to a Muslim OVERLORD ever!
Don’t those rude people know the Muslims are our OVERLORDS?
However, Muslims may be rude to the dirty kafirs anytime and get away with it … without consequences.
Politeness is enforced only in one direction … towards the Muslims.
DavidR says
Ask the Jews how they dealt with abuse since they have the most experience. Question how your own thoughts and feelings arrange themselves differently when you stumble on field trip of little Jewish boys with their Hasidic locks and big boy suits and ties as opposed to entering the mosque or church full of familiar and self confirming people, images and odors. Learn from the other Prophet you claim to hold in high esteem. Emulate the forgiving Muhammad.
Orville P. Phisnarus says
Rudeness in Canada means ‘Islamophobia’ The weak, milk toast Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, who is by definition a Marxist to Muslim demands. There is so few attacks on Muslims in Canada the Muslims ‘fake’ attacks and discrimination and Trudeau will go on tv virtuous signalling that he and his government will not tolerate attacks, fake or otherwise. There is more christian being attacked along with Jewish people but you never hear about it in the fake news…so the anger is building and will back fire on Trudeau and his pathetic, self righteous, virtuous signalling Liberal party. This is happening everywhere and Muslims know how to get attention….victim hood is inbred.
Rarely says
The Conservatives keep blowing elections. I have a guppy that could have knocked Trudeau out last time but the Conservatives couldn’t. It was unbelievable and hard to see how they’ll ever get a better chance.
CogitoErgoSum says
Yeah, you would think dead people would be more conservative but they all seem to vote on the liberal side.
Rarely says
Yup. The Conservatives blew the last Federal election in Canada just like Trump blew this one.
CogitoErgoSum says
That is probably so. Maybe honesty will pay off some day but it doesn’t appear to be that way now.
Rarely says
CES.
It’s hard to pick out what’s “honesty” and what’s not when one “misspeaks” so often. In any event “rudeness” can sometimes blot it out too. Too many voters were lost to DT by DT himself.
CogitoErgoSum says
I’m not talking about misspeaking. I’m talking about dead people voting and other types of voter fraud.
Rarely says
CES
It wouldn’t even have been close otherwise. Political hari-kari was the real culprit.
Rarely says
There is clearly a difference between being called a name because of your identity (which certainly can cause fear and insecurity) and some random rudeness or name calling unrelated to identity which has no lingering aftermath although momentarily upsetting. E.g When the “N” word is used to insult an African American or the “K” word on a Jewish person it is an identity issue while being sworn at for cutting off another car is not.
Of course it is totally unfair and unwarranted to gratuitously assault anyone, either verbally or physically.
That the media reports on such a minor issue while ignoring major ones is curious. It’s hard to see this as newsworthy unless it was a very bad news day — no cats stuck in trees or someone bitten by a dog.
rubiconcrest says
All Muslims should be offended by Islamic doctrine and horrid actions it sanctions. The perfect solution for Muslims who feel like victims is to leave Islam. But they’re afraid of their fellow Muslims and weak. They know Islam is a lost cause.
somehistory says
This is another salvo….he’s making waves…trying to get laws passed making it illegal to be “rude” to moslims, online or on the street.
It’s all part of the strategy to get laws passed making “free speech” costly and someday, extinct. If one must pay a fine, go to jail, etc. for having spoken to a moslim…in any way they then claim “hurts” or “humiliates” or “scars,” then fewer people will speak what they think.
Think for a moment: If someone wants to be called It, and another person, calls the it Mister, Miss, etc., then the “it” claims to be “hurt,” “scarred,” etc., who can then say for certain “it” was not hurt or scarred? (I would, btw.)
So, moslims want there to be laws making them Special…so anything they claim to feel about anything anyone says to them or about them is “hurtful” in some way, that one will be arrested, charged, and sent to prison.
They could be told not to identify themselves (as moslim) online, stay offline, stay home, change their dress to avoid being identified….all things non moslims are told to do to keep from being attacked…but with moslims, one does not dare question them or tell them how to behave. One just avoids stepping on moslim toes…because it makes their fake ‘god,’ satan the devil, angry and the moslim must “strike.”
Check Burry says
The mus scottish justice secretary is attempting the very same. A pox on his efforts.
R Russell says
Typical thin skinned Muslim. Always the victim. Don’t forget Humza Yousaf wants to silence us in our own homes in case we say anything nasty that he doesn’t approve of.
Pray Hard says
Cry me a big bloody river.
tgusa says
Get back to me when people are going on stabbing sprees, organizing rape gangs or blowing up children’s concerts targeting the people of your congregation imam whiner.
gravenimage says
UK: Imam says his congregation has been called rude names online and on the street
But this article makes a point it did not intend to make. Qari Asam is trying to show how bad Muslims have it in Britain, and all he can come up with are unkind words and unsupported claims that women have had their hijabs snatched off. Contrast that with the stories of Islamic jihad activity that we post here regularly. Which is more serious? Yet which gets more establishment media attention?
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Yep–really, that says it all–even assuming there was any namecalling at all, given how many “hate crimes” against Muslims have actually been faked.
Note that Imam Qari Asim has also spouted Taqiyya about Jihad terror having nothing to do with Islam.
This is what he said after his coreligionist beheaded French teacher Samuel Paty:
“Such barbaric and gruesome acts of violence can never be justified in the name of Islam; such cowardice further taints our peaceful religion and increases hostility towards Muslims globally.
“We must all value and defend freedom of expression and belief. At the same time we should respectfully help those who may not hold the same beliefs as us to understand the deep hurt that we may feel when we perceive our faith to be undermined.
“As an Imam, I urge everyone to work together to counter divisive and hurtful narratives and not give rise to those that seek to exploit it. Extremists look to divide us but we must not play into their hateful rhetoric.”.
https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/uk-news/2020/10/17/government-adviser-on-islamophobia-condemns-france-terror-attack/
By “extemists” he obviously means those who dare to expose the savagery of Islam.
He is also an advocate for the spread of Shari’ah in Britain.
Check Burry says
He doesnt see that we are divided, very divided, and I recon many want to continue to be divided, from folk who hate us, as polls have shown, they may not do smiting, but they like to read about smitings done by fellow members of their cult
Michael Copeland says
Note the imam said “We must all value and defend freedom of expression” – all, that is, except him.
citoyen says
His pronouns are me, me, and me.
Daniel Wright says
I cry no tears for these uncivilized monsters. Their skin is about one molecule thick about mere words. They kill over a CARTOON and BOO HOO HOO over a verbal insult?? My violin is playing sad songs for those poor victims of words. Maybe if they would act like men in stead of animals they might garner some sympathy.But I’m not holding my breath on that one.
Giacomo Latta says
It’s a wonder every muslim in the world doesn’t have his or her own crowd-funded sympathy-for-the-poor-bugger financial account.
Crusades Were Right says
Meanwhile in the South Caucasus…
Beheadings, torture, church desecration, etc, by Mohammedans against Armenian Christians continues.
But of course, mean words against Mohammedans in the UK are the REAL problem!
lol (Not really though.)
gali galit says
Always the victim. lol!!
James says
“Imam says his congregation has been called rude names online and on the street”
Now isn’t that too damn bad.
Shaman says
Muslim pigs and their sh*tty senses. I am an ex-muslim and I live with fear among the muslim scums, pigs everyday. I don’t care their sh*tty thoughts. Now this pig-headed imam complains about names but I as an ex-muslim even cannot publicly complain about my safety!!! Shame on all Muslim pigs. Now delete my comment dhimmi jihad watch for calling them as pigs, come on.
Veracious_one says
The mere fact that Infidels can speak freely really frustrates pious Muslims..