“They said many Americans experience such delays during travel, often at random.”
Yes, and often not at random: American Airlines, for one, is far more hostile to foes of jihad terror than to Sharia supremacists and advocates of Sharia-based oppression of women and others.
Anyway, this case has a good chance of succeeding given today’s political climate, but the Terrorism Screening Database is unlikely to be scrapped altogether; it will just be filled up with opponents of Biden’s handlers’ regime.
“Is the Terrorism Watchlist Legal? Appeals Court Hears Virginia Case,” Associated Press, January 27, 2021 (thanks to Henry):
FALLS CHURCH — On Tuesday, a panel of federal appellate judges expressed concerns about ordering wholesale changes to a government terrorism watchlist. A lower court previously found the list of roughly 1 million individuals was constitutionally flawed.
The 4th US Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond heard arguments Tuesday on the constitutionality of the watchlist, also known as the Terrorism Screening Database.
Government lawyers urged the judges not to intervene in the executive branch’s administration of the list and its national security judgments.
Fundamentally, they said the problems encountered by those on the list, like enhanced screening at airports and delays at border crossings, were too insignificant to merit intervention on constitutional grounds. They said many Americans experience such delays during travel, often at random.
‘Far From Insignificant’
Gadeir Abbas, a lawyer with the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which brought the suit on behalf of roughly two dozen Muslim clients, said the burden faced by those on the list is far from insignificant. He cited accounts from plaintiffs of being shackled and having guns pointed at them in front of their children at border crossings when agents encountered their names in the database.“They are not just inconveniences,” Abbas said.
But J. Harvie Wilkinson, one of three judges who heard the case, said that while some plaintiffs experienced significant issues, others experienced only minor problems. He suggested it might be better for individual plaintiffs to file suits based on their own experiences, rather than just attacking the watchlist as a whole.
He also questioned whether the judiciary branch was able or qualified to require revisions to a program that the government insists is vital to national security….
wth009 says
They are doing to prepare for the potential countless terrorists entering the country because of Biden.
gravenimage says
Hamas-linked CAIR sues US government, claiming terrorism watchlist is unconstitutional
……………….
All of these Islamic thugs have been emboldened by the Biden win.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
And in America you can sue a ham sandwich. We Infidels are all ham sandwiches now, and will lose in court to actual judges in black robes, liberals all.
Lenin’s apocryphal statement about give ’em enough rope and let them hang themselves resonates these days. But with an Islamic taste as well as a Commie taste.
Mount Zion says
How many americans have died because muslims entering the country have not been vetted , how many were shot dead by a muslim american on duty in the military , remember the story ? How many jihadist plots have been avoided thanks to counter terrorism effort ? In the light of all the terrorism attacks that come from one religion , the one and only one , I say it’s ridiculous to ask ourselves if the terrorism Watchlist is legal . And also , the lawyer who brought the suit on behalf of two dozen muslim clients sayd that the burden faced by their clients is far from insignificant , I say what americans had to put up with concerning all the rapes and vehicular jihad and shootings of kuffars is far from insignificant , so with no doubt or second thoughts , I find that a Terrorism Watch List is fully justified .
livingengine says
CAIR and the Watchlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_ry24UY4jk
somehistory says
And the agents who are told by these slime that ” it is none of your d.__ business”, needs to speak to the slime as Clint Eastwood would if filming a movie.
It is everyone’s business when they are advocating for islam, belong to ilsam, and lie for islam.
moslims want to kill us. What is more, moslims want the governments to allow them to kill us. moslims want the governments to write laws that make it impossible for the rest of us to tell the truth about them and islam. moslims want to have all laws that might inhibit them from terror attacks, murdering, raping, mutilating little babies, forcing children into sex-slavery and calling “marriage,” and all of their other filthy practices, discarded and declared Unconstitutional…even though they don’t believe or abide by the Constitution.
moslims want to kill us, to have laws that allow killing us, and laws that say we can’t complain.
That makes it ***our*** business, because they live in this country, fly on planes next to us, ride buses, trains, taxi’s and eat at restaurants where we also go.
somehistory says
If they destroy the “watchlist,” then by cracky, everyone else should sue to get the entire ‘shoes off, empty your bags, no shampoo, toothpaste, etc. larger than a sample size; no bottles of water, must arrive three hours early, show all of your cards, and your “body,” etc’. before being able to board a plane.
The rest of us, like Billy Joel sings, “didn’t start the fire.”
Certainly, moslims started this entire thing….and cair was right in there, funding terror; and due to bo, they got away with it, weren’t indicted and tried.
Now, they want to get on planes as if they are all innocent as newborn lambs and not connected to the network of moslim terrorists through their slavery to islam.
The rest of us are put to tests…having our bodies x-rayed…and not even being able to complain, because that makes us “suspicious” characters in the eyes of those in the airports.
If moslims don’t want to be “stopped” at borders and arrested in front of their kids, they can leave islam and make a denunciation of it to the officials.
James Lincoln says
somehistory,
Check out the passenger amenities around the 6:15 mark.
Compare and contrast with flying in 2021.
“What Flying Was Like in the 60s”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaXZ8Nisyjo
somehistory says
Haven’t flown this year yet…probably won’t…but my last flight, I had the passenger in front of me lying in my lap and had no place to put my arms.
Going through the check-in was not my cup of tea, either. My daughter had put some homemade coffee in a thermos for me, but alas, had to pour it out and buy some expensive, tasteless, stuff from the counter inside.
And thanks to the “underwear” bomber, we all must be stripped by x-rays.
gregbeetham says
The category of Muslim-American is an oxymoron, one nullifies the other.
Bad Penguin says
In a former job I traveled a lot both domestically and internationally. After 9/11 I learned very quickly not to show my Army Reserve ID card as a form of Identification to the ticket agent or TSA people checking teckets before the Met Detectors. Why? Because they immediately ID me as a protentional THREAT and I received very extensive searched just short of body cavity examinations.
If I had to go through that then why doesnt a person who has done something to get on the list have to do it?
OLD GUY says
CAIR should be on that watch list.
notnolib says
CAIR should be disassembled and it’s members officers and supporters charged for terrorism.
ET says
If you remove the political side of Islam, there will be no Islam. Islam is the religion of the state, Arabic is its official language, Shari’ah is the law.
Islam is not compatible with democracy and the Muslims seem to know it, but the politicians in the West don’t. Horse pucky.
Along with the globalists Klaus Schwab pushing “The world will not be safe until everyone is vaccinated”, the bio-warfare and weaponization of medicine amid COVID, borderless society, “Build Back Better”, the Great Reset, churches closed, and more and more Muslims being placed in high positions of the Biden administration, do Christians not have a moral duty to stand up and push back NOW.
CAIR should investigated, but that will not happen. The Democrats stole the election and they will be collaborators in suppressing Christianity and promoting Islam.
somehistory says
And then this:
https://www.gopusa.com/?p=105944?
“Black Lives Matter Nominated For Politicized Nobel Peace Prize”
“Black Lives Matter has been nominated for the 2021 Nobel peace prize — a pitch that lauds the movement’s fight against racial injustice but takes little note of the decidedly non-peaceful violence and property damage that has been committed in its name.
The pol, Petter Eide, a member of Norway’s Parliament, brushed aside questions of the movement’s occasions of violence on Friday.
“Studies have shown that most of the demonstrations organised by Black Lives Matter have been peaceful,” Eide said.
_ Read more at the New York Post.
John F Murphy says
Americans who sang the US Star Bangled Banner were threatened to be removed from a United flight…an airline who took covid relief funds… go figya
notnolib says
From what I understand about the terror group CAIR, their members, their supporters, and their officers are all terrorists. The terror organization CAIR should be treated like a terror organization because (from what I’ve read and heard about them) they are a terror orgainzation.