Noticing the obvious is forbidden. My latest in FrontPage:
Archbishop Ieronymos of Athens and all Greece touched off a firestorm in mid-January when he dared to note, according to the Orthodox Times, that “Islam was not a religion but a political party.” He added: “They are the people of war.” In response, Muslim leaders the world over have rained down condemnations upon the archbishop. He spoke inaccurately when he said that Islam was not a religion at all, but proof that he was wrong about Islam having a political aspect has not been forthcoming.
Muslims in Greece were outraged. The Western Thrace Turkish Minority Consultation Council (BTTADK) declared: “We condemn the statement of the Archbishop of Greece, Mr. Ieronimos….We hope a more peaceful language to be used instead of anti-Islamic discourse in such difficult times of pandemic.” The Xanthi Turkish Union added that Ieronymos’ words were an “Islamophobic attack” and even a “hate crime.” It thundered: “The fact that these statements, filled with insults, came from the number one name in the Greek church increases the gravity of the situation. We see this move as one of the typical examples of the rising Islamophobia and xenophobia in Greece in recent years.”
For its part, the Western Thrace Imam-hatip Schools Graduates and Members Association (BIHLIMDER) asserted that the archbishop was displaying “ambition and jealousy,” and stated: “We are leaving the examination of the psychological state of this person, who uses words that even the most ordinary people wouldn’t use, to the experts. We are condemning such a hostile attitude.” Ahmet Ibram, deputy head of the province of Eastern Macedonia and Thrace, said fancifully: “One of Islam’s basic beliefs is to have life based on peace between religions. It can never be accepted to have grudge and hostility against other religions’ members.”
The Turkish Foreign Ministry also issued a statement: “These provocative expressions of Archbishop Ieronimos, which incite the society to hostility and violence against Islam, also show the frightening level Islamophobia has reached. Such malign ideas are also responsible for the increase of racism, Islamophobia and xenophobia in Europe.”
The fact that the Turkish Foreign Ministry would attack the Archbishop of Athens for abetting “the increase of racism, Islamophobia and xenophobia in Europe” confirms that the concept of “Islamophobia” is an illegitimate conflation of two distinct phenomena: crimes against innocent Muslims, which are never justified, and honest analysis of the motivating ideology of jihad terror, which is always necessary. Archbishop Ieronymos pointed out that Islam was political and expansionist, which its scripture, doctrine, and history show it to be.
The Turkish Foreign Ministry knows that Archbishop Ieronymos is right. In January 2018, as Turkish troops launched a military operation in Syria against the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG), 90,000 mosques in Turkey prayed the Qur’an’s “Conquest” sura, sura 48, which calls upon Muslims to be “ruthless against unbelievers.” Why did they do that, unless they assumed that their military action had an Islamic aspect? And in November 2019, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said: “Our God commands us to be violent towards the kuffar (infidels). Who are we? The ummah [nation] of Mohammed. So [God] also commands us to be merciful to each other. So we will be merciful to each other. And we will be violent to the kuffar. Like in Syria.”
Archbishop Ieronymos said: “Islam, its people, is not a religion but a political party and are the people of war…They are the people who seek expansion, that is the characteristic of Islam.” Erdogan proved him right.
Nonetheless, all this led the unnerved Archdiocese of Athens to issue a clarification, claiming that Archbishop Ieronymos was “meaning nothing more than the distortion of the Muslim religion itself by a handful of extreme fundamentalists, who wreak death and destruction all over the world.These are exactly the people the Archbishop was referring to, that is, people who instrumentalize Islam and turn it into a deadly weapon against all those who have a different view from that of ‘unbelievers,’ even that of believers.”
It is understandable that the archdiocese would release this clarification in light of all these denunciations of the archbishop. The archdiocese doesn’t want any violence from Muslims who believe that perceived insults to their faith should be requited with violent attacks, after the pattern of the prophet of Islam himself. But that proves the archbishop’s point yet again.
Michael Copeland says
“One of Islam’s basic beliefs is to have life based on peace between religions. It can never be accepted to have grudge and hostility against other religions’ members.”
Ahmet Ibram,
Oh yes?
“O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you,”
Koran 9:123
“…between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever…”, Koran 60:4
Of course, Islam does not recognise that there are any other religions, so the first statement is safe.
“It is unbelief, kufr. to hold that the remnant cults now bearing the names of formerly valid religions such as “Christianity” and “Judaism” are acceptable to Allah…”
Manual of Islamic Law, “Reliance of the Traveller”, w4.
Watara says
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Alfredo says
Muslims invariably react with indignation when someone states the obvious.
Islam is NOT “the religion of peace”
That assertions is supported by many Surahs including 9:123, 60:4, 9:29.
mortimer says
Response to Alfredo: 51% of Islam’s ‘Trilogy’ (Sira, Bukhari and Koran) is political in nature; 18% is about Allah; the rest is about Mohammed. JIHAD is the sixth and most important pillar of Islam.
David says
I think the World needs a class in Taqiyya.
Gourdhead says
Precisely.
Dachlan says
Well said david..
toomanyhobbies says
one m ore timer; islam is a certifiable CULT and cults are not protected under US law….
Tony Said says
They are simply liars. But lying to and cheating and stealing from and killing and enslaving the wives of killed infidels is a big part of the Koran and the HADITH. AS THIS SITE AMPLY DEMONSTRATES; All that was practiced in the name of Allah by their false prophet who was nothing like a good and peaceful man who practiced mercy to his enemies. Islam is like pre- Christian Judaism in regard to political ambitions and a draconian tit for tat law.
gravenimage says
Greek Archbishop Tells the Truth About Islam, Muslim Leaders Enraged
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Of course they are. No one is allowed to tell the truth about Islam.
Manuele Lui says
i CONCUR
PRCS says
No UNBELIEVER is allowed to tell the truth about Islam.
Plenty of Muslims (Zawahari, al Baghdadi, et al.,) have, though.
gravenimage says
True, PRCS. Muslims can tell the truth about Islam–so long as it is done approvingly. If it comes from Infidels or is critical it is not allowed.
Mousieish says
Just like no one is allowed to tell the truth about the left and democrats.
gravenimage says
You have a point, Mousieish–but there is no death penalty for it–not yet, at least. There is with Islam, though.
john smith says
Spot on GI, no one is allowed to tell the truth about Islam, the less we know of their true ambitions the easier it is for them to engulf us all.
mortimer says
Response to GI: Sharia law says dhimmis break the dhimmi contract when they say something ‘impermissible’ about Islam. Nothing embarrassing should be said about Islam, even if it is accurate and verifiably 100% true.
gravenimage says
+1
tim gallagher says
I agree with your comment, gravenimage, that, these days, you can’t tell the truth about islam’s evil and violent nature. In the past, many people seemed to tell the truth about islam ( there’s all those truthful quotes from people like John Quincy Adams, Churchill, Gladstone, et al, who tore into Islam,) and I guess we still have Robert Spencer and quite a few others who tell the truth about islam, but it does seem to be less common. I suppose the Muslims are able to get their lying message out to the world more these days. Unfortunately, a lot of people seem to take notice of the Muslims’ lying crap.
gravenimage says
Thanks for all the great replies.
Tony Said says
The Archbishop deserves our thanks. The only leader of a Church that I know of who dared to tell the truth about this mishmash of Judaism, Christianity and Arabic paganism;
Michael Copeland says
“Islam is not like Christianity”, explains Mullah Krekar, “Our Islam is a political movement.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuI57GeVXyI. at 8.00
“an ideological political movement”, says Anjem Choudary.
In his book “War and Peace in the Law of Islam”, Majid Khadduri, an Iraqi scholar of Islamic law of international renown, says,
“The jihad was therefore employed as an instrument for both the universalization of religion and the establishment of an imperial world state.”
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2020/06/06/leftist-jihadist-common-goal-this-s-t-wont-ever-stop-unless-we-f-kin-take-it-all-down-n502503
gravenimage says
Important quotes, Michael–thanks.
PRCS says
So, the Archdiocese of Athens wants others to believe that a handful of “extreme fundamentalists” is distorting the “Muslim religion”.
Fundamentalist:
a person who believes in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture in a religion.
How, exactly, do “extreme fundamentalists” differ from the “moderate” variety, and how are Muslim fundamentalists distorting Islam’s actual texts?
mortimer says
Archbishop Ieronymos greatly overstated the case. Islam is not 100% a ‘political party’ nor is it 100% an ‘Islamic army at prayer’. The archbishop erred by overgeneralization.
Muslims do not currently have a universal caliphate. If they did, the archbishop would be closer to the truth.
gravenimage says
He is certainly correct in aggregate. There are a few lax Muslims who do not follow its diktats, but this is certainly true of most Muslims, and all pious ones.
americanpatriot says
All this seems like one party saying that the deadly venom of the snake is just real and deadly for anyone who will be bitten by it and the other party is vehemently denying it by deceitful methods of deflection. It is so funny arguing about this deadly ideology called Islam which is totally deadly for the future of non-Islamic societies. It is time to wake up and alert the sleeping ignorant non-Muslim folks.
CogitoErgoSum says
Muslim leaders know that the ignorant non-Muslims do often become the best Muslims.
David says
Have you tried to ‘wake up’ anyone to the reality of Islam? Have you seen their reaction? People look at you in a different way. They are of course thinking: You are an Islamophobe! Most people are not interested in the subject. It is a bit like being gay in an islamic country. Some things you don’t talk about.
JimJFox says
Yes I have, David and you are correct about the reactions one gets.
“You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it…”
Also “it’s a pity that willful ignorance isn’t painful”
gravenimage says
Sadly, I think most of us have had this expericence. The denial of the threat of Islam runs deep with a lot of people.
Eleanor says
It will not be long before Muslim political parties spring up all over Europe, UK, Canada, USA, Australia and NZ. When this happens, does anyone truly believe that their Muslim citizens will vote for any Party other than the Muslim party?? And this will be where the takeover starts.
Sharon says
Already happening in ALL those countries, while we sleep.
David says
In the countries mentioned, there will never be a majority of muslims. It will be a long time, before their numbers increase sufficiently. There may be infidels voting, but again not enough.
I believe that the truth about islam will eventually reach a breakthrough.
JimJFox says
I agree, the breakthrough is coming but it will take a long time due to our leaders and media propagating their lies about the religion of peace.
gravenimage says
I hope so, David.
wpm says
In America if you are a member of the Democratic party you appease every Islamic cause ,all Moslems that run for office are Democrats as far as I know be they congress women, or local city or county elected leaders in America. The Democratic party in America in my eyes is the Islamic party .We now have a senile old political hack in the White House who is busy signing Executive Orders to help import more of these special pets (Moslems who cannot be vetted that they are not terrorist cells) pandering and appeasing Islam. All future Democratic voters in their eyes willing to sell our future to hold onto power ,the Democratic party support the KKK in 1921 now they support Islamic terrorist cause in 2021.
gravenimage says
Mostly true, wpm:
“Republicans account for a small but steady share of U.S. Muslims”
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/06/republicans-account-for-a-small-but-steady-share-of-u-s-muslims/
And overall the Democrats are far more Islamophilic.
JamesC. says
“Archbishop Ieronymos said: “Islam, its people, is not a religion but a political party and are the people of war…They are the people who seek expansion, that is the characteristic of Islam.” Erdogan proved him right.
Nonetheless, all this led the unnerved Archdiocese of Athens to issue a clarification, claiming that Archbishop Ieronymos was “meaning nothing more than the distortion of the Muslim religion itself by a handful of extreme fundamentalists, who wreak death and destruction all over the world.These are exactly the people the Archbishop was referring to, that is, people who instrumentalize Islam and turn it into a deadly weapon against all those who have a different view from that of ‘unbelievers,’ even that of believers.””
Kudos to the Archbishop – he is exactly right, so far as he goes.
The Archdiocese should be ashamed of itself. The Koranderthals are being faithful Baphometans – they are not “distorting” the Baphometan phallic murder-cult in the slightest. Those who deny the evils of the murder- cult are endangering the rest of the non-Baphometan world. At least the Archdiocese is less untruthful than the papacy, which since 1964 has flattered Baphometanism and sedulously avoided facing up to the doctrines and practice of Baphometanism.
PRCS says
A note: Robert Spencer stated–in the post–that the Archbishop “spoke inaccurately when he said that Islam was not a religion at all”
mortimer says
James wrote: “he is exactly right”.
No, James, that is an exaggerated OVERSTATEMENT.
Terry Gain says
It so nice to see so many wise people stepping up and contesting Islam’s ridiculous claim that it is a religion. Of course, it’s not a religion, unless you believe that God is evil. One need go no further than the commands to kill innocent people who use their intelligence and refuse to submit to this incoherent ideology
Infidel says
It is a geopolitical cult, as Ali Sina once described it. He pointed out how there are 17 attributes of cults, and that any cult may have a subset of those. However, islam is unique in that it has every one of the 17 attributes that cults normally possess
https://www.faithfreedom.org/islam-cult-or-religion/
It is also geopolitical in the same way that Communism is, or that Nazism was. Has a blueprint for world domination
PRCS says
It is a theocracy: a system of governance in which “divine” law is THE law.
Democracy and theocracy: each antithetical to and incompatible with the other.
Infidel says
Countries are theocracies, while only some religions are. Any religion that has a nominal head is a theocracy by definition. Nothing good nor bad about theocracies: just saying what they are. Like the papacy is a theocracy, by definition: it’s another thing that many Catholics may disagree w/ the direction they have taken
Iran is a theocracy. Saudi Arabia arguably was, until MbS. Afghanistan still de-facto is.
David says
Terry, are you saying that God is the same entity as Allah?
Terry Gain says
David
Hell no. God is God. Allah is an Arab attempt to conceptualize the idea of God. It’s a complete failure, as it pre-dates Christianity and Judaism in terms of enlightenment. Allah is a god who hates.
gravenimage says
Islam is indeed a religion–it is an *evil* religion.
tgusa says
“incite the society to hostility and violence”
Tone deaf describes that that little bit of projection. Muslim leaders are running in place in their denial.
Relic says
noticing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tama3NdUVN8
Rod says
The Orthodox Times said that the Archbishop said that Islam was not a religion but a political party.
Spencer, with his typical disregard for honesty and accuracy, presents this phrase as a direct quote by the Archbishop, which it isn’t. Not quite the technique you’d expect from a junior journalist, let alone from a renowned “historian”. How reliable is anything with the Spencer name-tag attached? You have to wonder.
It’s curious that when a Polish priest follows the teachings of Jesus Christ, fostering tolerance, mutual understanding and acceptance within his community, Spencer ridicules and insults him, strange though it seems. Of course the yapping chorus of his unthinking devotees follow suit as instructed. Nobody stops to think – “Hey, isn’t this priest doing what the Bible tells us we should do?”
But when an Archbishop insults members of his community, Spencer exults in the ensuing resentment. His disciples of course match their opinions to those of their mentor, as usual.
Some people learn, at an early age, to think for themselves. Lesser intellects rely on others to think for them.
Westman says
Was Constantinople an Islamic name? Greeks have very reason to understand that Islam means war until submission. Modern Muslims can claim to be peaceful yet cannot erase Islam’s history,
the Quran’s surah 9 demands, nor the barbaric current applications of Sharia in so many nations.
Islam simply cannot escape its past nor achieve real uncoerced respect without reformation. Simply ignoring the past and the Quran in a world of fingertip information won’t work.
GreekEmpress says
+1
gravenimage says
Good post, Westman.
Rod says
Westman, you refer to history.
A close study of that subject, long overdue, it seems, will inform you that most Islamic countries, perhaps all, have in recent times been invaded, occupied and dominated by Christian invaders, often with great loss of life, and always with ruthless exploitation of resources, wealth, manpower. “Submission” indeed.
And of course, well justified longstanding resentments and hatreds.
So, you’re right. Ignoring the past leads to stupid conclusions. Sometimes bigotry and racism.
gravenimage says
Is “Rod” trying to blame violent Jihad on the ‘filthy Infidels’ again?
PRCS says
Rod asserts:
Spencer, with his typical disregard for honesty and accuracy, presents this phrase as a direct quote by the Archbishop, which it isn’t.
The Orthodox Times article clearly stated:
“The Archbishop of Athens stressed that Islam was not a religion but a political party.”
Spencer wrote:
“Archbishop Ieronymos of Athens and all Greece touched off a firestorm in mid-January when he dared to note, according to the Orthodox Times, that “Islam was not a religion but a political party.” He added: “They are the people of war.” In response, Muslim leaders the world over have rained down condemnations upon the archbishop. He spoke inaccurately when he said that Islam was not a religion at all, but proof that he was wrong about Islam having a political aspect has not been forthcoming.
Terry Gain says
PRCS
Thank you for setting the record straight. Rod was pointing his finger at Roger Spencer, the great scholar of Islam, but as you’ve demonstrated to perfection Rod was completely wrong. You refuted his claims. If he’s something more than a crank, he will thank you for correcting him. It would please us cultists if he did.
Terry Gain says
I just love Auto-Err. Amazing that it converts Robert to Roger on Robert’s website.
Ecosse1314 says
Rod, whilst pointing his finger at all and sundry ,is really quite thick. Best ignored
Rod says
Do pay attention PRCS. A direct quote is a direct quote. Spencer doesn’t have one. Neither do you.
gravenimage says
“They are the people of war” *is* a direct quote from the Archbishop cited in the article. Why does “Rod” keep lying?
Rod says
Change of subject, Pinocchio? Cunning ploy. Let’s hope nobody notices.
gravenimage says
How is this a change of subject? It is a direct quote from the Archbishop cited in the article, and in the story above.
Then, the implication that the Orthodox Times is lying citing the Archbishop said that Islam was not a religion but a political party is just bizarre. The implication that every piece of journalism directly quotes its sources word for word is mistaken and that it is being dishonest if it does not is just really odd.
Crusades Were Right says
“…the teachings of Jesus Christ, fostering tolerance, mutual understanding and acceptance within his community…”
The teachings of Jesus do NOT “foster” “tolerance, mutual understanding and acceptance” of EVIL.
L R says
Yes. It seems to me that needs to be hammered over, and over again in our current, PC culture.
Healthy tolerance does not mean one tolerates the intolerant, or the cruel.
“Being kind to the cruel, is cruel to the kind.”
Rod says
Jesus said that? You’ve forgotten to refer me to the relevant passage in the Gospels. Unfortunate oversight?
I seem to remember that Christ’s love and forgiveness and understanding were all-encompassing.
gravenimage says
“Rod’s” claim that Jesus preached the acceptance of evil is *quite* false.
In Matthew 12:34-35 he says, “You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him.”
James Lincoln says
So Rod thinks that the Polish priest should be “fostering tolerance, mutual understanding and acceptance within his community” for followers of islam.
A reminder, Rod:
Islam is a totalitarian religious cult / geopolitical ideology whose goal is to wage jihad until sharia law rules the world.
Not something that lends itself to tolerance, mutual understanding, or acceptance…
gravenimage says
“Rod’s” pretending that enabling the violence of Islam is “follow[ing} the teachings of Jesus Christ” is *quite* false.
“Rod” is referring to this sad story:
“Polish Catholic Church holds ‘Day of Islam’ to ‘overcome prejudices’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/01/polish-catholic-church-holds-day-of-islam-to-overcome-prejudices
Rod says
Jihadwatchers are so enlightened that they can even restate the teachings of Christ Himself to suit their own abhorrent obsessions and hatreds.
You’ll note that they carefully avoid quoting the words of Jesus himself, to support their tortured misinterpretations. Such are the age-old practices of bigotry.
Rod says
St Peter’s words might be helpful.
“Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult. On the contrary, repay evil with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing”.
I’m not a Christian, but I’ll always be available to help you to understand the most basic principles of your own faith.
gravenimage says
I quoted the words of Jesus, above. “Rod’s” pretending that Jesus taught the acceptance of evil is *quite* false.
Then, Muslim apologists are always quick to tell Christians that the only Christian thing to do in the face of Jihad terror is to bare their throats–and the throats of their loved ones–to the Islamic blade.
gravenimage says
The Archbishop did indeed say “They are the people of war”–and this is a direct quote from the article. Why is “Rod” pretending that it is not?
Saleem Smith says
Hello Rod, are you youself a practicing Muslim?
I see that you are attempting to impinge the character and scholarship of Robert Spencer and Jihad Watch and frustrate readers.
I am an ex-Muslim who occasionally contributes to Jihad Watch and I would love to have an ongoing discussion with you in the comment section here at Jihad Watch.
When examining Islamic theology and law, a person ought to focus exclusively on the contents of the Qur’an and the behaviour of the prophet of Islam. Essentially, Islam is the product of what Muhammad supposedly said and did and much of it is really bad.
Qur’an 4:59: O you who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you. If you differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you do believe in Allah and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination.
Qur’an 33:36: It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter, that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error.
Hadith: Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.” Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, “O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”
gravenimage says
+1
Rod says
Saleem, rather than studying a book with little relevance to real people in real time, I judge Muslim people by their characters and behaviour.
You could misinform yourself by taking too much notice of the Christian Bible. I’d advise against it. One example will suffice, but there are many.
“And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.” (Leviticus 26:27–29)
gravenimage says
I see that “Rod” is now poretending that the Qur’an has no relevance to pious Muslims.
Then, he ignores the 38,000+ Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11–and desperately hopes we will, as well.
Rod says
Murders in USA . 15,000 per year, with guns, approximately. With knives, clubs, fists – lots more.
So, since 9/11 over 280,000 with guns. Nothing to do with the Koran or pious Muslims. Just Americans being American.
So, let’s all unite in our hatred of Muslims. Let’s spend hours every day, telling each other how much we hate Muslims, and how much we think they hate us. And how Jesus would want us to do so.
That’s sure to help.
gravenimage says
“Rod’s” pretending that Jihadists have not murdered Americans in the US since 9/11 is just absurd. The Beltway Sniper murders, Ft. Hood Massacre, Boston Marathon Bombing, and Orlando Nightclub shootings are just some of the Jihad terror attacks here.
The claim that this has nothing to do with the Koran is, of course, completely dishonest.
Then, the idea that opposing Jihad is “hatred of Muslims” is utter bs. Then, he has implied before that if Christians are real Christians, that they will not just bare their throats to Jihad violence, but will be unable to so much as condemn evil. Just grotesque calumny.
Rod says
And the other 279,900?
gravenimage says
Muslims make up just a tiny percentage of the population in the US–much under 1%–their violence is out of all proportion to their numbers. “Rod” is fine with Muslims slaughtering the ‘filthy Infidels’ with impunity.
Rod says
But, sadly, the 280,000 dead are dead. And 15,000 more will die in the next 12 months.
And, sadly, you people will maintain your pointless obsessional hatred of those not remotely responsible for this continuing carnage.
And, sadly, you are utterly incapable of recognising, or having the faintest glimmer of understanding of your own blind stupidity.
gravenimage says
As “Rod” has it, hating Jihadists murdering their victims is “blind stupidity”. Bad dhimmis!
born saturday says
then again what would the archbishop say, holding an original weapon of the revolution against islam that liberated us from islamic brutal slavery 200 year ago exactly… what would you expect him to say… for greeks who know their history, the oppresive rule of sharia and the barbarocity and nomadism of islam is nothing new that has come to us with the influx of illegal migrants throughout the west…. we had been slaves under the barbarians for 400 years… but it was back then the west and the papacy that contributed to the fall of the byzantine empire and konstntinople… in fact constantinople first fell to the franks and soon after to the barbarians… history repeats itself and the enemies of the western civilisation, true traitors of anything western, are within the west…it is them who are responsible of what is about to happen, the fall of the whole of western values society and civilisation of which christianity is an integral part…
Terry Gain says
born saturday
I too was born on Saturday. It means we must work hard for a living, which is great because everything we acquire is earned. But eschew the pessimism. Confidence is warranted. My opinion that Islam is not a religion is gaining ground.
President Xiden is a gift to conservatives. He has all of Obama’s idiotic Islamophilic policies but none of his superficial eloquence. He is clearly demented and will sign anything his Obama’s handlers put in front of him. But the Obama cultists now in control have already overreached and blowback is swiftly coming.
Conservatives will create their own communications platforms and fascist Big Tech will be neutered. The Republican Party will be reformed. In time, it will be accepted that complaints of Islamophobia are a direct attack on our freedom of conscience and freedom of speech. Fear of a supremacist, conquest ideology is completely warranted when it is being welcomed into our country by historically ignorant and cowardly elites and not only do we have a right to speak out against this deceitful and violent ideology, we have a patriotic obligation to do so.
David says
One thing Biden is good at: Signing copies of his book :”Biden my Time: the Wisdom of Biden” A slim volume.
A study of voting numbers in the Swing States, shows a lot of strange anomalies. All cases thrown out without any evidence being heard.
Yohannes says
This Archbishop is speaking the truth, and i salute him for that…
Many pisslamists in mOdeRaTe Indonesia also says the same thing, that pisslam is political and mamad become successful in his da3wa because of that, and without politics pisslam is gone from mamad’s death…
Maemae77 says
Muslims and their leaders know that the people they call racist and Islamaphobes are telling the truth. Muslims playing their victimhood charades to silence, intimidate and turn others against the truth tellers. They do this with ex-Muslims as well. Their psychological warfare tactics p*ss me off, not only because they use them but because most Americans fall for them.
Muslims are so quick because they know they have a lot to hide about their ideology from willfully ignorant non-Muslims that pander to their demands.
There’s one thing that Muslims will never give up and that’s their power over willful ignorant non-Muslims. To make sure that this ignorance stays, they’ve infiltrated every Facebook page, group and friends list to use Islamic deception tactics whenever the issue is Islam comes up. They need to keep the minds of the masses blind. What these people are doing sickens me to the pit of my stomach and they laugh about it too behind Americans backs.
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They’re always in the right places at the right times right everytime when a page or group posts the truth about Islam to non-Muslims. That’s not a coincidence. One of Islam’s form of jihad is infiltration.
I’ve personally caught a few of them indoctrinating people in “ Comedy Groups”
I confronted one of them and he told me to “Be quiet, woman.”
Sadly, 99% of Americans don’t have the faintest clue what indoctrination looks like and even if you told showed them, they would call you crazy or sensitive because the mindset has already been normalized because that’s how the indoctrination works. That’s exactly where Muslims have us beat. They manipulate Americans minds. If they can control what we believe they can control what we do and too many defend them at their own peril. Stupid kaffirs won’t listen to reason even when their lives And grandchildren’s lives depended on It.
infidel says
A MUST C Video about the persecution of Hindus by Muslims in the southern Indian state of Kerala
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4xJ-mQhJiA
David says
Very informative video. It shows the utter depravity of muslims, and their plans to dominate wherever they live, however long it takes. Person by person..
Infidel says
Now, in that state, muslims are emboldened enough that they’ve started taking on Christians, in their marriage jihad attempts. And Kerala churches are starting to notice
Terry Gain says
Infidel
Thank you. It’s very well done. The strategy of deception and exploitation appears to be the same as in England. I wonder if it has also been used in other countries. Scandinavia seems to suffer more from just plain rape as the method of attack.
As far as I am aware, we haven’t yet experienced this on Canada. Mind you, the media would not likely cover it.
I am curious as to whether any Muslim leader has taken ownership of this highly organized strategy or whether it has spread by word of mouth.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that grim link, Infidel.
Crusades Were Right says
“Al taqiyya for a ride, kafirs!”
Jim K says
Islam is a religion with a political component, hence the term “political Islam”. I never really thought much about it until I came across videos by Bill Warner and the writings of Robert Spencer.
Diaspora Muslims do seem to be the most politically active of all non Christian t religions throughout the West especially in the U.K. and USA. Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar are two fire breathing Muslims who clearly are no friends of Western Civilization and who practice situational ethics like Muslims are known to do.
The other fact about Islam is that once it gains military and political dominance over a nation, non-Muslim religions and peoples tend to shrink or eventually disappear altogether. Egypt has gone from 100% Christian to 90% Muslim. The entire Middle East used to be Christian but is now almost entirely Muslim with Christian minorities hanging on for dear life. So much for the claims of Muslim tolerance.
The Turks committed two cases of wholesale butchery of Armenians and other Christians. Once in 1894 and the other starting in 1915. The Turks, of course, deny these crimes and remain indignant and defiant.
Only Christian Spain and their hardy warriors eventually defeated and ejected the Muslim occupiers after 700 years of struggle.
gaashe says
this page is full of hate, islamphobia. islam is not as you think, islam is peacefull. who created terrorist? its your very people who you call intellegence like mossad and cia who created it, 98% of the victims of terrorist is people who identifies themself Muslims.
gravenimage says
Note that “gaashe” is unable to point to anything that Archbishop Ieronymos has gotten wrong.
The claim that Jihad terror–a key component of the Qur’an and Hadiths and practiced by the violent warlord “Prophet” Muhamme–has instead somehow having been created by Infidels just over the past seventy years ago or so makes no sense.
How does “gaashe” explain Muslims having waged violent Jihad to spread Islam over the past 1400 years? Of course, he cannot. He also cannot explain why so many pioius Muslims openly preach Jihad today, nor why ordinary Muslims dance in the streets and hand out candy when their corelkigionists wage violent Jihad.
Then it is true that many of the victims of Islam are Muslim–all this proves is that Islam is so savage that it also targets its own–Muslims deemed “heretical”, “apostate”, or lax, in which case they can be targeted just like unbelievers and persecuted or murdered. Note that “gaashe” never says why this is a good thing.
And “gaashe’s” username is absurd–it means “father figure”, but he is really just another inept Taqiyya artist.
Rod says
gaashe probably knows more about the recent Christian invasions of every corner of the planet, conquering and killing Muslim, Hindu, Maori, Bantu, Apache, Inca, Koori, Tiwi, Tamil, Aztec, Javanese, Punjabi, Tetum, etc, etc, etc, than you do, gravy.
Then gaashe might talk about the bloody religious wars between Christians in the Middle Ages. Yes, the victims of Christians were Christians. By your own logic, “all this proves is that Christianity is so savage that it also targets its own”.
Then about the USA in 1861-65 and ruthless, continuing slaughter of, yet again, Christians by Christians, for the “right” to “own” and “use” black slaves. How civilised was that!
Then about two World Wars, scores of millions dead, and not a single Muslim to blame.
Then about Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc.
Recent history is bloody and horrible enough. Think on it with shame and regret, before you point your lily-white fingers, and pretend to belong to some superior more virtuous tribe, entitled to hate and preach to others.
gravenimage says
Again, “Rod” *hates* the West having abolished slavery–he often points to the American Civil War to condemn just this. Then, he has never said *anything* critical about slavery under Islam, and in fact refuses to do so. *Ugh*.
The idea that condemning slavery is “hatred” is just sick.
Rod says
Pinocchio, isn’t it obvious that accusing people of saying things they did not say, then criticising them for things they did not say, is pointless, and makes you look like an idiot?
And a liar?
Why bother?
If you can’t defend your views in any other way, perhaps your views are indefensible. Think about it.
gravenimage says
Note that “Rod” is unable to point to anything I have said that is untrue.
Rod says
“Note that “Rod” is unable to point to anything I have said that is untrue.”
And behold – another lie. You’ve made your point, Pinocchio.
gravenimage says
And, while replying to a post of mine noting that “Rod” is unable to point out anything I have said that is untrue, “Rod” still fails to point out anything I have said that is untrue…,
Inspired Infidel says
The more truth that is revealed about islam ………. the less popular it becomes. Share the truth. Share this site.
Rod says
While the world’s fastest growing religion is…….oh dear!
gravenimage says
“Rod” here has many lauded Islam for being the fastest-growing creed. Note that he has never once said why he considers this a good thing. One can only suppose that he’d be gleeful over the growth of Fascism in the 1920s and ’30s. as well…
OLD GUY says
Enraged, I guess the truth does really hurt. The truth about Islam needs to be spread world wide not named Islamophobia, and silenced. Islam is a form of demonic dictatorship, that pits people against each other with nothing but POWER as its goal.
No Muzzies Here says
The Greeks know something of how Islam is a political movement. They had 400 years of occupation under the Turks to learn all about how Islam operates.
gravenimage says
Greeks *should* know this–and some do.
Rod says
The Indians had 200 years of occupation under the British to learn about how Christianity operates. Similarly the Indonesians under the Dutch, the Algerians under the French.
None of them seem to have been much impressed. I wonder why.
gravenimage says
Actually, India’s legal system is based on British law, and India is the world’s largest democracy. The implication that India rejected everything about Britain is utterly dishonest–but par for the course for “Rod”.
As for Algeria and Indonesia, they are both parts of Dar-al-Islam, and both have oppressive governments. No doubt “Rod” is in favor ot this–heaven forfend they should be like civilized nations like France or the Netherlands.
Rod says
America’s democracy is “based on” that of Westminster too. But as we’ve seen, it’s a poor and shoddy imitation.
The Indians did it much better, but after a century long struggle they rejected the Christian domination, extortion, and oppression by the British as soon as they possibly could, and have never regretted it..
gravenimage says
Actually, “Rod” here has claimed that beheading his victims is intrinsic to the achievement of a functional democracy:
More like the treatment given Charles I, Jerome. High treason is no small matter. Charles’ fate was just one step along the way to the achievement of a functioning democracy. The USA will get there some day. Hopefully.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/01/the-show-trials-and-purges-are-just-getting-started#comment-2315641
“Rod” has a very odd view of democracy–but given his fondness for the horrors of Shari’ah law, this scarcely surprises.
Chano Lee Kruzz says
Using all the Islamic books, someone needs to see if Isis has done anything different or less volatile then they’re so-called cold profit. The answer is no!
Walter Sieruk says
Actually, Islam is a fusion religion and polices . It’s a political religion ,a seen in its stealth jihad.
As when Ayatollah Khomeini when he stated that “All Islam is politics.” [1]
[1] THE ISLAM IN ISLAMIC TERRORISM by Ibn Warraq , page 332.
Walter Sieruk says
Part of political essence of the religion of Islam is Islam’s Sharia law.
About Islamic law ,otherwise known and Sharia law. It should be made known that the actual origin of Sharia law is revealed in a Time –Life book with the title MESOPOTAMIA: THE MIGHTY KINGS copyright 1995. The point is this history book about the ancient pagan world of Mesopotamia informs the reader that “many Islamic laws resemble the Babylon and Assyrian forebears.” .page 150.
There is the above and other references imply that such pagan teachings were incorporated into the religion that Muhammad manufactured and then started.
Thus this further reveals that a lot of ancient paganism is part of the whole religion of Islam.
In other words, ancient paganism makes up much of Islam. Therefore Islam is a hoax.
[1] THE ISLAM IN ISLAMIC TERRORISM by Ibn Warraq page 347
Gourdhead says
I pray that the Archbishop Ieronymos of Athens and all Greece has a large and well trained protection force as the heathens of Islam are sure to attempt to strike him down.
gravenimage says
Yes–he has been threatened.
L R says
Those last two sentences of the article makes the point. If authorities are running around trying to put out ‘fires’, so people don’t feel so insulted as to become violent, well, I would think that would be an obvious clue.
As we know, the more authorities act weak the more dangerous it becomes for the West.
TheNicheActress says
Lloyd de Jongh is very good on what muslims allow others to say, or even think, about islam: https://www.youtube.com/c/LloydDeJongh/playlists
Rod says
Alternatively, we could talk to some Muslims. Perhaps that’s a bit risky – Mr de Jongh probably knows much more than they do.
gravenimage says
“Rod’s” pretending that Muslims never reveal the savagery of their creed is, of course, quite false.
Rod says
It seems very significant that a Polish Bishop, after all his years of training in theology, and his years of toil in the service of Christ and the Church, has been found to be lacking in a proper understanding of Christ’s message. And that none other than Robert Spencer has such a superior understanding of the Saviour’s message that he is qualified and able to correct the Bishop’s error.
So I think Mr Spencer should offer his services and his advice to His Holiness the Pope. He too might need his opinions and beliefs to be brought into line, and who better to do it than our own Mr Spencer.
At the very least, His Holiness could be invited to participate in the enlightened discussions taking place daily on JihadWatch. He could help us to hate, malign, and ridicule those of our fellow men whose beliefs don’t measure up to ours. How pleasant it would be to know that His Holiness Himself endorses our hatred and intolerance.
gravenimage says
Once again the appalling “Rod” is claiming that opposing Jihad terror is “hate” and “intolerance”. *Ugh*.