Last Thursday night’s David Horowitz Freedom Center webinar.
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mortimersays
As Hugh Fitzgerald pointed out, IDF duped Hamas to seek shelter in their tunnels and then collapsed the tunnels thus entombing Hamas almost completely. The truth will come out and eventually, the deceptions of Hamas will seep out to the public.
gravenimagesays
Video: Robert Spencer on Israel and Hamas — Who Won?
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In the purely military sense, Israel.
But I have noticed for the first time that not just the “Palestinian Authority” but even the openly genocidal Hamas is being treated in much of the Western media as an honest actor–a terrifying development.
Michaelsays
Surely the mission objective must be so to demoralise the people of Gaza that they give up and find another country to live in.
gregbeethamsays
Robert, Australia is firmly on the side of Israel, not that that means a whole lot in the grand scheme of things but at least Israel can depend on having one friend in the West.
The big problem for any president is the FBI; they seem to have been subverted by the left-Islamist ideology to a great extent, the evidence for this is quite apparent at even a cursory glance.
DB Rajusays
It is not about race, nationality, or territory. It is about Religion. Fundamental duty of every Muslim irrespective of his location is to kill Jews until last of them is dead. This is indoctrinated from Childhood from their Holy book Quraan. Those who don’t believe my words are ignorant & uneducated in Islam.
JoeSmithsays
It is not about killing Jews, it is about killing Hindus, Americans, Africans, Christians…and Jews…
1. Slavery. Saed replied, “Their soldiers should be beheaded and their women and children should become slaves.”
Mohammed, pleased with the verdict, said, “You have made a ruling that Allah or a king would approve of.”
(Bukhari, a “sacred” text, 5,58,148)
2. Rape— On the occasion of Khaybar, Mohammed put forth new orders about forcing sex with captive women
3. Beheadings— When you encounter the Kafirs on the battlefield, cut off their heads (47:4)
4. Cause confusion— Some among them listen to you [Mohammed], but We have cast veils over their [Kafirs’] hearts and a heaviness to
their ears so that they cannot understand our signs [the Koran 6:25].
5. Plot against them— They plot and scheme against you [Mohammed], and I plot and scheme against them. Therefore, deal calmly with
the Kafirs and leave them alone for a while.(86:15)
6. Terror—”I will send terror into the Kafirs’ hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!”
7. Make war on and humiliate them—…until they submit and pay the poll tax [jizya], and they are humiliated.
8. A Muslim is not the friend of a Kafir
Walter Sieruksays
The jihadists of Hamas base their anti-Jewish beliefs on the Qu ‘ran which reads the are Jews are “apes and pigs” 2:65. 7:166. 5:60. Likewise. Hamas jihadists base their murderous violence against the Jewish people by the violent and deadly instruction found in the Qu ‘ran, 2:191. 4:89. 5:33. 9:5. 111,112, 123. 47:4.
Furthermore, the very foundation of and for Islam is the Qu ‘ran ,this leads to very important question: “Is the Qu ‘ran the Word of God or is it a fabrication of a man. Thus, is the Qu ‘ran the truth or a fiction and a hoax ?”
The answer is clearly given on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Qu ‘ran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Qu ‘ran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]?
The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Qu ‘ran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Qu ‘ran is right.” Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Qu ‘ran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Qu ‘ran.
Moreover, the Muslims claim that “the Qu ‘ran is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.”
In addition, in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Eethi Caner has shown that the Quran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’ On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses. For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.”
Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.”
In conclusion, the Qu ‘ran is not only a fiction also a hoax and therefore the entire foundation of Hamas is based on lies and falsehood of that bogus “holy book.”
Rarelysays
Distractors could, of course, make the very same points vis-a-vie the Bible.
gravenimagesays
The implication that Christians and Jews are murdering people based on the texts of the Bible is *quite* mistaken, Rarely.
IVAN JOHNSTONsays
Iran has already started restocking Hamas
Infidelsays
RS, not to be a spoiler, but I liked the discussion you had w/ Jay Smith on MbS and Saudi Arabia
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mortimer says
As Hugh Fitzgerald pointed out, IDF duped Hamas to seek shelter in their tunnels and then collapsed the tunnels thus entombing Hamas almost completely. The truth will come out and eventually, the deceptions of Hamas will seep out to the public.
gravenimage says
Video: Robert Spencer on Israel and Hamas — Who Won?
…………
In the purely military sense, Israel.
But I have noticed for the first time that not just the “Palestinian Authority” but even the openly genocidal Hamas is being treated in much of the Western media as an honest actor–a terrifying development.
Michael says
Surely the mission objective must be so to demoralise the people of Gaza that they give up and find another country to live in.
gregbeetham says
Robert, Australia is firmly on the side of Israel, not that that means a whole lot in the grand scheme of things but at least Israel can depend on having one friend in the West.
The big problem for any president is the FBI; they seem to have been subverted by the left-Islamist ideology to a great extent, the evidence for this is quite apparent at even a cursory glance.
DB Raju says
It is not about race, nationality, or territory. It is about Religion. Fundamental duty of every Muslim irrespective of his location is to kill Jews until last of them is dead. This is indoctrinated from Childhood from their Holy book Quraan. Those who don’t believe my words are ignorant & uneducated in Islam.
JoeSmith says
It is not about killing Jews, it is about killing Hindus, Americans, Africans, Christians…and Jews…
1. Slavery. Saed replied, “Their soldiers should be beheaded and their women and children should become slaves.”
Mohammed, pleased with the verdict, said, “You have made a ruling that Allah or a king would approve of.”
(Bukhari, a “sacred” text, 5,58,148)
2. Rape— On the occasion of Khaybar, Mohammed put forth new orders about forcing sex with captive women
3. Beheadings— When you encounter the Kafirs on the battlefield, cut off their heads (47:4)
4. Cause confusion— Some among them listen to you [Mohammed], but We have cast veils over their [Kafirs’] hearts and a heaviness to
their ears so that they cannot understand our signs [the Koran 6:25].
5. Plot against them— They plot and scheme against you [Mohammed], and I plot and scheme against them. Therefore, deal calmly with
the Kafirs and leave them alone for a while.(86:15)
6. Terror—”I will send terror into the Kafirs’ hearts, cut off their heads and even the tips of their fingers!”
7. Make war on and humiliate them—…until they submit and pay the poll tax [jizya], and they are humiliated.
8. A Muslim is not the friend of a Kafir
Walter Sieruk says
The jihadists of Hamas base their anti-Jewish beliefs on the Qu ‘ran which reads the are Jews are “apes and pigs” 2:65. 7:166. 5:60. Likewise. Hamas jihadists base their murderous violence against the Jewish people by the violent and deadly instruction found in the Qu ‘ran, 2:191. 4:89. 5:33. 9:5. 111,112, 123. 47:4.
Furthermore, the very foundation of and for Islam is the Qu ‘ran ,this leads to very important question: “Is the Qu ‘ran the Word of God or is it a fabrication of a man. Thus, is the Qu ‘ran the truth or a fiction and a hoax ?”
The answer is clearly given on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Qu ‘ran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Qu ‘ran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]?
The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Qu ‘ran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Qu ‘ran is right.” Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Qu ‘ran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Qu ‘ran.
Moreover, the Muslims claim that “the Qu ‘ran is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.”
In addition, in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet Caner and Eethi Caner has shown that the Quran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’ On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses. For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.”
Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.”
In conclusion, the Qu ‘ran is not only a fiction also a hoax and therefore the entire foundation of Hamas is based on lies and falsehood of that bogus “holy book.”
Rarely says
Distractors could, of course, make the very same points vis-a-vie the Bible.
gravenimage says
The implication that Christians and Jews are murdering people based on the texts of the Bible is *quite* mistaken, Rarely.
IVAN JOHNSTON says
Iran has already started restocking Hamas
Infidel says
RS, not to be a spoiler, but I liked the discussion you had w/ Jay Smith on MbS and Saudi Arabia