They have no regrets because there is abundant acceptance of honor killing in many Islamic cultures.
In the Qur’an, a mysterious figure, known as Khidr in Islamic tradition, kills a boy in an apparently random and gratuitous attack. He then explains: “And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief. So we intended that their Lord should substitute for them one better than him in purity and nearer to mercy.” (18:80-81)
And according to Islamic law, “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (Reliance of the Traveller o1.1-2).
Muslims commit 91 percent of honor killings worldwide. The Palestinian Authority gives pardons or suspended sentences for honor murders. Iraqi women have asked for tougher sentences for Islamic honor murderers, who get off lightly now. Syria in 2009 scrapped a law limiting the length of sentences for honor killings, but “the new law says a man can still benefit from extenuating circumstances in crimes of passion or honour ‘provided he serves a prison term of no less than two years in the case of killing.’” And in 2003 the Jordanian Parliament voted down on Islamic grounds a provision designed to stiffen penalties for honor killings. Al-Jazeera reported that “Islamists and conservatives said the laws violated religious traditions and would destroy families and values.” In Iran, according to the New York Times, the legal system “treats parents who murder their children with relative leniency, as the maximum sentence for the crime is only ten years.”
“They Were the Nice, Older Couple Next Door. Then the First Body Turned Up.” By Farnaz Fassihi, New York Times, July 5, 2021:
The older couple first came to the public eye on a winter night in Tehran, when their film director son invited them to the stage after a screening. They were frail, and seemingly shy, and the younger man helped his mother up the stairs, then draped his arm around his father’s shoulder.
That was five years ago.
Now their son is dead, and Akbar Khorramdin, 81, and his wife, Iran Mousavi, 74, are back on the public stage, accused of his murder and, in a twist that has shocked and riveted Iranians, the killings of a daughter and a son-in-law over the course of a decade. The victims were drugged, suffocated, stabbed and then dismembered, the authorities say.
The couple has confessed to the crimes, but if Mr. Khorramdin, a retired army colonel, and Ms. Mousavi, a homemaker, are remorseful, they have done a good job hiding it.
“I have no guilty conscience for any of the murders,” Mr. Khorramdin said in a television interview from detention. “I killed people who were very morally corrupt.”
Ms. Mousavi appeared no more contrite.
“We decided together, the two of us,” she said in a television interview shortly after she was arrested. “My husband suggested it and I agreed. I have a great relationship with my husband. He doesn’t beat me or curse at me.”…
Jillian says
And this is what countries like OURS should remember when allowing these “poor, nice Iranians” to migrate to our country!
gravenimage says
Iran: Couple who committed three honor murders has no regrets, ‘I killed people who were very morally corrupt’
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Islam: murdering your children is fine so long as they are “morally corrupt”. Note the murdering your children is not a sign of moral corruption.
God, I hate Islam.
tim gallagher says
Islam creates totally inhuman vermin like these maggots in huge numbers. And the response of these inhuman, verminous pieces of crap, such as the ones in this report, to all things that annoy them is always “Kill, kill, kill”. Among civilised non-Muslim societies vermin like these would be considered to be serial killers. In Muslim societies, these murderers of three people are considered to be OK. I agree with Jillian’s comment, just up above, we need to make sure that these inhuman barbarians do not get into our countries because they always bring their disgustingly barbaric ideas and actions with them. Islam doesn’t belong in any civilised country. And how about the way this murdering maggot considers the victims to have been morally corrupt. Look in the mirror, you evil piece of shit.
Hank says
When a nation throws out its established Judeo-Christian culture and faith, then keeps voting for politicians who encourage Islamization in all its various forms – then obviously Islamic culture, faith and thinking is the expected end-result for that nation. Vote wisely.
James Lincoln says
So Ms. Mousavi said:
“I have a great relationship with my husband. He doesn’t beat me or curse at me.”
So that is her definition of a “great relationship”.
Pretty low bar…
gravenimage says
Good point, James.
Then, they have a great partnership murdering their children and in-laws…
tim gallagher says
Spot on, James. It is an incredibly low bar. But I think that, for Muslim women, not being beaten and cursed at is probably about as good as it gets in a Muslim marriage. Islam is such a barbaric load of crap in its take on all aspects of human life and relationships between men and women are surely primitive and downright barbaric in most cases. I don’t think you’d find much of what we, in the western world, would call love in most Muslim marriages. Still, she does get to murder people in honour killings, so I suppose the poisonous creature gets a kick out of that aspect of their vile marriage.
gravenimage says
Some Muslim men do love their wives–but those who do are both rare and flouting Islam.
tim gallagher says
Yes, I suppose that is true, gravenimage. Islam’s built in misogyny doesn’t help to foster healthy, loving relationships, but, a bit like when you do come across decent people who happen to be Muslims, which I think is almost a miracle considering what islam teaches people, there must be some healthy and loving marriages among Muslims. I guess that these very rare relationships would happen sometimes.
gravenimage says
Tim, as ex-Muslim Bosch Fawstin says, some people are just better than their religion. But given what lslam teaches, and the legal and social model most Muslims live under, such loving marriages seem to be quite rare.
tim gallagher says
That’s a very good quote, gravenimage, and it is a great thing that some people are, through whatever magic it is that does the trick, better than their religion. I recall you mentioning that quote before. Years ago, and it is a very vague memory for me, and before I knew anything much about islam, I did meet a young woman and her father (can’t even remember at what sort of function i met them – must be 20 years ago or more) and they seemed to be exceptionally nice people. Since then I have met some other Muslims who seemed fine. Of course, I didn’t really know any of them well but I do still retain a vague memory of the father and daughter as being extremely pleasant people. But knowing the nasty content of Islam, I see these people as being very fine people in spite of being followers of islam.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Tim. But even in these cases there are often exceptions–some of these “nice” Muslims also hate Jews or oppress women or support Jihad terrorism. Islam is pernicious, and even Muslims who do not adhere to the entire ugly stew often have some very troubling beliefs.
tim gallagher says
I agree with what you say, gravenimage. I don’t really ever trust Muslims. As people often mention, even the pleasant ones might become more hardline and dangerous to non-Muslims..
Trevor Loughlin says
To act in such a counter-instinctual manner leads me to conclude that inbreeding has altered the normal patterns of human behaviour. Genetic testing needs to be done on this strange sub-species of human.
This would have benefits in the West if the genes could be identified, perhaps potential psychopathic child murderers and serial killers could be diagnosed and aborted? The Islamic world is a fascinating laboratory of genetic defects, but the ultimate prize would be a genetically engineered virus capable of selectively sterilizing this invasive and destructive pest species.
gravenimage says
Actually, there are other groups that are inbred who do not act like this–the Amish, for instance, or certain sects of Judaism. Then, there are those with healthy genetic backgrounds who convert to Islam and accept all of its savageries, including murdering their own children.
Thinking that Muslims all belong to the same ethnic group and that this group is genetically isolated makes no sense–this is clearly not the case. Islam is not a race.
Inbreeding *is* a harmful thing re health and IQ–it is also rife in much of the Muslim world–but it does not in and of itself explain the horrors of Muslim behavior. This is what Islam itself calls for.
Goofy says
In general I have problems accepting that Islam is a religion. Religions tens to be about the relationship between a god and mankind, but in respect of Islam it is about the relationship between Allah and a very brutal and unkind Mohammed and about Allah’s fulfillment of Mohammad’s every sexual desire. Islam is in this respect an utterly carnal religion.
The only religious aspect I have found in Islam is that it surpasses every other religion in respect of the self-righteousness of the believers who are not only prepared to kill unbelievers and apostates but also believers who fall short of their high moral standards.
How high moral standards can be translated into murder of your family members is beyond me and it probably takes a Muslim to understand that.
gravenimage says
Islam is a religion by all definitions, Goofy. It is just an *evil* religion. There have been evil religions before–the worship of Baal and the religion of the Aztecs, that both involved human sacrifice. But most large religions today are benignant–only Islam stands out as being intrinsically harmful.
Giacomo Latta says
”I killed people who were very morally corrupt.”
So when does Khamenei get his turn, Khorramdin?
OLD GUY says
WOW! won’t they make lovely neighbors for the Biden’s when they come to America.
Such diversity, move the judge, jury and executioner right next store.
The Hollywood crowd might wants to clean up their morals before the open borders islamic invasion reaches them.
And as you know the beauty of supporting diversity is that you truly do get to support them when they come to America.