When the world was celebrating “Pride month,” the global Muslim hero, a fugitive from India in Malaysia, Zakir Naik used his verified Facebook account to remind his 22 million followers how homosexuality is condemned in Islam.
Quoting Qur’an 11:82, he posted, “When our decree issued, we turned (the cities whose inhabitants indulged in homosexuality/sodomy) upside down, and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread, layer on layer.” He also reminded his followers across the world that in Musnad Ahmed, Volume 3, Hadith 2913, Muhammad is depicted as saying: “May Allah curse the one who does the act of the people of Lut (Homosexuality/Sodomy).” His followers reciprocated the same beliefs in hundreds of comments, and shared Naik’s statements widely.
If this abject bigotry supported by religious texts were not disturbing enough, Mark Zuckerberg allows these calls for killing to stay on Facebook and be spread through his platform. That is mind-boggling. How did Naik’s words not go against Facebook’s community standards and get taken down? Was it because the hatred was being spewed by a Muslim preacher, citing Islamic texts for his Muslim followers, who were spreading his word in their world of believers?
It’s amusing to see the LGBT community partner with Muslims in Western democracies such as the U.S., or South Asian democracies such as India, to stage demonstrations against elected governments and ethnic or religious majorities. It’s amusing because it’s a fool’s paradise they live in. They are completely oblivious to the fact that those they consider “friends” hold to a faith that considers the existence of LGBT and the concept of homosexuality “haram” proscribed by Islamic law, and punishable by death.
Not only does the LGBT community not enjoy any rights in Islamic countries; they are lucky if they escape being tied up and tossed over from a building, or stoned to death. Being a homosexual is a crime in 70 countries in the world, and in 13 of these countries homosexuality can invite capital punishment. Do you need prizes to guess that these countries have a Muslim majority and/or are run on Sharia?
Homosexuality has been a crime deserving of capital punishment in Iran since 1979. During a visit to Columbia University in 2007, Iran’s then-President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad boasted that “In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals, like in your country.” In as recently as January 2019, an Iranian man was hanged after being caught having sex with another man.
In the African Muslim country of Mauritania, homosexuality has always been illegal, and offenders were sentenced to three years in prison. But since 1983, with Sharia law becoming the basis of the country’s penal code, homosexuality has been made a crime punishable by death, with stoning as the new prescribed mode of execution.
Nigeria, with its 90 million Muslims, a few years ago banned gay marriage, public display of affection by same-sex couples, and registration of gay pubs or clubs. Homosexuality can be punished by 14 years in prison. Interestingly, the African country has 12 states that have instituted Sharia and impose the death penalty on those who engage in homosexuality.
Pakistan’s Penal Code holds homosexual activity to be “carnal intercourse against the order of nature.” Though the mode of punishment is not explicitly mentioned, one can be jailed or fined for engaging in homosexuality.
In Yemen, homosexual women are sent to prison for three years. Unmarried gay men may receive one year in prison or one hundred lashes. However, if a married man practices homosexuality, he is sentenced to death by stoning. Yemen is a Muslim country with about 1000 Christians and a handful of Jews.
Homosexuality continues to be a taboo and can be a capital crime in other Islamic counties such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan. First-time offenders may be let off with lashes or thrown behind bars for several years. Honor killings of gays by their own families are not unheard of, either.
Omar Mateen, the perpetrator of the mass shooting at Pulse, a gay club in Orlando, Florida, was born in New York in 1986 into a modern Muslim family that had emigrated from Afghanistan in the 1980s. Though they became naturalized citizens of the US, we wonder if there was a part of Afghanistan they had inadvertently carried with them and nurtured, and which prompted the young man to go kill a group of homosexuals.
To assume that devout and knowledgeable Muslims will go against their religious dogma and embrace the LGBT community is idiocy. For Muslims, Islamic law is paramount, and nothing surpasses it. The amity extended by some Muslims in modern societies is at least in some cases only eyewash to induce the LGBT community join forces with them in bringing down governments that stand against the Islamization of their land and destroy social structures in non-Muslim countries.
CogitoErgoSum says
While it is true that most Christians (at least I think most Christians still do) hold homosexuality to be a sin it is not a sin that must still be punished by the death penalty. The penalty was paid by Christ with His death upon the cross. However, the penalty still stands under Islam. So, as far as I’m concerned being gay is a personal matter. And when I say personal I mean personal. I don’t want to know all about the “beauty” of being gay and I don’t want it being crammed down my throat and being told I’m a bigot if I don’t like it. I’m getting more than a little sick of the gay stuff after more than a whole month of it in June. And one more thing, leave the little kids alone. I am perfectly okay with a child molester being tossed into the river with a millstone tied around his (or her or theirs or its) neck for abusing a child.
Duncan Thorburn says
I would hope you get this, NO GAY PERSON IN 3,500 YEARS OF JUDAISM HAS BEEN EXECUTED, SHUNNED, OR IN ANYWAY OSTRACIZED, IN JUDAISM.
CogitoErgoSum says
Believe what you want and, as I said, if you want to be gay that’s your own personal choice. And also as I said, I don’t believe people should be killed for being gay whether they ever actually were or not. What your problem with that – just that I don’t approve of homosexuality?
CogitoErgoSum says
See Leviticus 20:13 as to the penalty for one man having sex with another man. The necessary proof for convicting a person of committing that sin may have been so difficult to gather that the sentence was never carried out – so I’ll grant that you may be correct. I don’t know for sure. That’s one of life’s mysteries. However, the law is there and it does seem to have been carried out by God on the people of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Mike says
they should look no further then there own back yards
In Europe Muslims rape an any thing with a pulse and I have a video of a Muslim having his way with the tail pipe of a **** car
DuncanThorburn says
Firstly, I’m Gay, possibly I understand your point of view, more than you could realise. I came out late, and wanted to be straight, straight was my Mindset, my Religion, but NOT my Nature. You are of course Totally wrong, Being Gay is NOT a choice, certainly NOT for me.
I watched Young Royals on Netflix, and was in floods of tears, from the VERY REAL pain I suffered. Yes, I can get your take on it being too much, but do you really believe that? I have hundreds of Heterosexual stuff, in Films, in Family tales, Books, almost every piece of Entertainment is Heterosexual in some way.
Your linking of Paedophiles to Gays, IS EVIL, there is no proof Gays more than Heterosexuals Abuse Children. That Link alone should be Banned, from every ignorant fool debating Sexuality, and YES, it does get me very angry. It’s still the one reason Gays go to Cities, not Towns and Villages.
Being Gay and Young today, is VERY different from my early years. Even though, I got Rejected by my Family, and that really hurts, as I adored my Mother. You need a Gay Mate, it would educate you, and God help any Gay child of yours, because I would fear your response. By the Way, Muhammad had Sex with his 6 year old Niece Aisha, him 50. So Paedophilia is institutionalize in Muslim Countries.
CogitoErgoSum says
I don’t limit paedophilia to only gays. I don’t know what goes on inside your head that attracts you to other men and you may very well feel you have no choice in that regard. However, I refuse to concede that you have no choice in whether or not to have sex with another man. I may feel I have no choice in being attracted to certain married women – but I most certainly have a choice about whether or not to have sex with them. We may not have control over our feelings but we certainly have control over our actions. Sorry if you see me as being evil but that is the way I feel. Am I less evil in your opinion if I say I can’t help it?
gravenimage says
Duncan, glad that you are opposed to Jihad terror. Sorry you had such a hard time of things, but know that many welcome you here.
CogitoErgoSum says
I welcome Duncan’s comments here and I oppose Jihad terror against gays as much as against anyone else. I don’t even mind interacting with Muslims here either. I try to treat people fairly and honestly and with as much intelligence as I can muster. I admire those who do the same. And let me say I would love my son whether he were to tell me he was gay or whether he had converted to Islam … or at least I hope so. Don’t feel that I think you are evil or any less human than I am or that you are not loved by God, Duncan
gravenimage says
+1
gravenimage says
Renowned Islamic preacher Zakir Naik defends capital punishment for homosexuals
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Of course he does–damned thug. This is perfectly Islamic.
And that any western social media is allow these calls for murder is grotesque–this is not freedom of speech.
gregbeetham says
I’ve got a suspicion that they allow it on purpose, Islam on display for all to see, out of the horse’s mouth so to speak.
No need for outsiders to warn anyone about Islam, they are doing it all by themselves and not a single politician was harmed in the process.
gravenimage says
Greg–with all respect–I doubt that those running social media are allowing Muslims to preach violence so that Islam will be exposed as violent, given that most of them are also censoring Infidels who dare say anything critical of the violence of Islam.
gregbeetham says
Well yeah, there is that but what if in their benevolence they are merely protecting the Infidels from the repercussions of criticizing Islam, getting into a slanging match with them etc. and getting threatened.
I got ‘friended’ by Muslim from Malaysia who invited me to see the wondrous revelations of Islamic discussion on their private Facebook Muslim group so I wouldn’t criticize Islam so much I guess.
Well that didn’t go too well, not after seeing their slander of all things Christian with most of it based on misinformation cooked up by some Muslims with a good imagination.
There was one section that completely re-wrote the narration of the birth of Jesus and screwed up who was related to who and some fanciful tale about how Mary overcame giving birth out of wedlock, which I attempted to straighten out, but I doubt if I had much success there because I announced right at the start ‘Stop corrupting the Holy Bible’ and proceeded to give an outline more in accordance with that.
But I got banned after I pointed out there were fundamental differences between Jesus and Muhammad and listed a couple of subtle differences, whereupon one Muslim proclaimed that Muhammad was sinless just like Jesus.
I saw fit to point out that Muhammad married a 6 year old child, in which case, I said, he doesn’t look too sinless from where I’m standing.
And that was that, I got shown the door; I think I lasted about ¾ of an hour.
gravenimage says
gregbeetham wrote:
Well yeah, there is that but what if in their benevolence they are merely protecting the Infidels from the repercussions of criticizing Islam, getting into a slanging match with them etc. and getting threatened…
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Greg, are you saying that you wish you had been banned earlier by Facebook?
And you account of what happened with your Malaysian Muslim “friend” does not surprise.
gregbeetham says
“Greg, are you saying that you wish you had been banned earlier by Facebook?”
Haha, no I didn’t get banned by Facebook there is another group on Facebook that is run by Christians who do nothing but criticize Islam (it’s quite a shitshow actually with Muslims in attendance often slandering Jesus and Christianity etc.) and it was Facebook who suggested the group to me in the first place.
I’m only suggesting that there is an outside chance that the motive might be the path of least resistance with the censoring of anti-Islamic comment, after all if they start banning Muslims it might have nasty repercussions…maybe. I guess it all depends how scared they are of Muslims.
Ade Fegan says
This Naik post is of June 28th 2021
I have reported it as hate speech
Lets see if it’s removed
I welcome you to follow suit
gravenimage says
Thanks, Ade. I would not hold my breath, though.