“It is so unfortunate, because we, as Muslims, could be the harbingers that see through this facade.”
Baloch would likely hope to see Muslims exploiting the chaos to set the stage for the imposition of Sharia as its solution.
Original video:
MEMRI excerpt:
“American Islamic Scholar Omar Baloch On San Francisco Shoplifting Surge: In Islam, It Is Permissible To Steal For Survival – Only White-Collar Crimes Are Punishable By Chopping Off The Culprit’s Hands; The Elite Is Trying To Create Chaos In The U.S. In Order To Drive Jews To Israel,” MEMRI, July 3, 2021:
American Islamic Scholar Omar Baloch said that in Islam it is permissible to steal for survival, however, the punishment for white-collar crimes, stealing a lot of money, is to chop off the culprit’s hands. He made his remarks in a video titled: “San Francisco Goes into Chaos, Shoplifting & Shariah Law,” which was posted on his YouTube channel on July 3, 2021….
Omar Baloch: “In the shari’a, in Islamic law, if someone has to steal, then he can steal for survival, up to the value of one egg.
[…]
“As you know, in Islam, if you do white collar crime, and you start stealing large amounts of money… The [punishment for this] crime, in Islam, is to cut off the hands. ‘As for male and female thieves, cut off their hands.’ Cut off their hands from the joint. Why? Because the benefit versus the risk. You cut off a few people’s hands in your community, people are going to think ten times before stealing.
[…]
“It [the elite] creates racism. It creates local hatred. [It seeks to] break down the society, break down America, to the point that all the Jews will want to leave and go to Israel. And that is only one of the agendas, of course. They have to bring down this country, to get all the Jews to go to Israel, and in the meantime, cause chaos in America. That is the agenda of the elite. The agenda of the elite is to leave no group trusting another group. It is so unfortunate, because we, as Muslims, could be the harbingers that see through this facade.
[…]
“Muslims in Muslim countries need to wake up and smell the coffee. They need to realize that what they have is much better than this.”
somehistory says
Can’t say he’s “loving it,” because mozlums are too unfamiliar with the concept of “love,” and never feel or show it. But, he is lusting for these things to happen. He imagines when the ultimate chaos is ongoing, mozlums can step in with terror and completely take over.
And the entire group of non-mozlums who hate Jews and Christians and the *idea* of a Supreme Being Who expects things from His creation, are all working to make life so unpleasant for the Jews, and for Christians that all of these two groups **leave** or just shut up about it all, lie down and take the demon medicine.
Raja says
Their happiness is in taking the happiness of others, especially the Jews. They won’t mind burning down a house just to kill a rat. Their prophet ensured that they emulate him till the end of the world.
somehistory says
Yes, Raja, spreading misery is their goal…be it by theft, extortion, threats of violence, rape, murder…all to make everyone bend the knee, in fear and terror, to their evil filth.
william says
Some history. Confirms my belief that religious people are demented and the more religious they are, the more demented they become. This applies especially to Muslims who are the perfect example, as shown by the utterances of Muslim clerics
somehistory says
william, it’s so very nice of you to say that I am demented, because as you may have guessed by my comment, or others I have made, I am very “religious.”
Contrary to your possible inclusion of me in your assessment of “religious” people, my **faith** in our Creator is the only thing that keeps me sane in this “demented” world.
Demented actually comes from saying “out of ones’ mind” or “mad.”
What is going on with mozlums and governments allowing such things to happen, even encouraging such, is just about enough to drive anyone…even those who believe in nothing or very little…mad.
“It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, World.” Did I put the correct number of “mad’s”? If not, feel free to add a few.
gravenimage says
william, many of the Anti-Jihadists here are devout Jews and Christians and Hindus–including this Blog’s founder, Robert Spencer. How does this make them demented?
RegT says
islam is not a religion, it is an ideology, much as Marxism. It is a death cult that demands all bow to islam. It is also – as whoever ‘mohammed’ was wanted it to be – a wish-list of perversions, from pedophilia to child rape, to sex slaves, to the killing of men, women, and children who refuse to submit (the meaning of islam is submission) to islam, especially if they refuse to convert. The Ayatollah Khomeini wrote a two volume book on proper conduct for muslims. It is useful to understand what an esteemed Islamic leader such as the Ayatollah teaches his followers. Translated into Farsi, the book is called “Tahrirolvasyleh.” (Read entire text here.)
Here are some excerpts from “Tahrirolvasyleh” which Muslims probably don’t want you to know about Islam:
A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable.
A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, but selling the meat to a neighbouring village is reasonable.
If a man sodomises the son, brother, or father of his wife after their marriage, the marriage remains valid.
A religious decree by Khomeini ordered that girl prisoners who are virgins must be raped before execution, to prevent them from entering heaven. A Guard conducts the rape the night before execution. The next day, a marriage certificate is issued by a mullah, who sends it to the girl’s family, along with a box of chocolates as a wedding gift.
And people still believe islam is a religion?
CogitoErgoSum says
Let me understand this. Islam will allow a person to steal up to the value of one egg if it is necessary for survival. Okay. So what if a person has a wife and several children? They are all supposed to survive on one egg? Or maybe they are all supposed to go to the grocery store and each one of them steal one egg? That may take care of breakfast but what about lunch and supper? At any rate most of these shoplifters are not stealing food, and in fact, many of them seem actually to be overweight. The world seems to have gone insane …. or should I say more insane … and that guy in the top video is more than half way there.
CogitoErgoSum says
As I have thought about this some more I am reminded of Jesus saying in the Bible that if someone should take your cloak, you should offer your shirt to them as well. That is something that also sounds crazy to me but I suppose it is a way of avoiding getting into a fight with someone. My only problem that the thief who walks away with my coat and shirt may also end up being my murderer if I die shortly thereafter from exposure to the cold. So okay, letting people get away with shoplifting is avoiding violence but it’s also resulting in the killing of the businesses they are robbing. Thou shalt not steal is one of the Ten Commandments and I don’t think it says anything about the price of eggs. This is about people respecting the rights of others and if someone steals in order to survive, that is a claim that needs to be determined as true or false by a court of law so that the proper measure of justice can be handed down.
somehistory says
It reminds me of Jesus asking if a son begs for an “egg,” will the father give a “scorpion,” or if the son asks for “bread” will the father give a “stone.”
Jesus fed the hungry. And when Judas “stole” from the money box, the collection given by those who wished to support Jesus in His work, Judas did not have his hand cut off. What happened to him, he did himself.
Jesus’ ” yoke is kind” and His “load is light.” mozlums should leave their filth and embrace God’s Son.
gravenimage says
It is all lies. In fact, the only mention of an egg re Hudud punishments says *just the opposite*:
Sahih Muslim, Book 17, Number 4185:
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Let there be the curse of Allah upon the thief who steals an egg and his hand is cut off, and steals a rope and his hand is cut off.
https://www.iium.edu.my/deed/hadith/muslim/017_smt.html
Lion heart says
Cogito : it’s all Islamic nonsensical propagandas abs justifications ! It’s as you said you hey if a family wanna Siri I’ve can they do it with one egg? ?? it’s all lies but it’s ok to steal from nonMuslims because we as no Muslims should pay for the upkeep of the Muslims according to Quran 9:29 and actually there was an Iraqi muffin woman who said in one of the western countries that Christian western countries should help us financially because they are already infidels ! In other words , she’s saying that when western countries helping us , it’s their duty to do it . Welcome to the cult of Islam and I am a Canadian Christian guy originally from Iraq.
Johnny B says
I agree with much of what he says in that there clearly is a “leftist” agenda to bring down the US and Western countries as a whole. It seems very coordinated and of course when I use quotation marks it’s because leftists are only useful idiots in this wicked game that is controlled by sinister forces that really could care less about “social justice”, racism, and so on. Other groups may think they can benefit from this even though they say they come here because it’s the only place they feel safe. How ironic is that?
gravenimage says
The idea this is being done to harm Muslims by driving Jews to Israel is clearly claptrap, though.
James Lincoln says
Can someone here at Jihad Watch please tell me what the prerequisites are to become an “islamic scholar”?
I mean, seriously…
CogitoErgoSum says
I think you have to have a beard.
RegT says
And forswear toilet tissue.
gravenimage says
🙂
tim gallagher says
James, I think the main prerequisite to be a Muslim “scholar” is that you have to have an IQ below 30 points. I think Muslims send their totally hopeless, unemployable male youths off to study to become a Muslim “scholar” because they can’t do anything else. It is Sunday and I watch the “Outsiders” program on Sky News TV in the morning. I want to draw people’s attention to an outstanding segment where Rita Panahi dealt with the issue of Islamophobia. I have noticed that some segments from the program are put up on youtube. I wasn’t sure if it would be there, but I googled “Rita Panahi comments on Naz Shah youtube” and I noticed that the video was there. It is a video on news.com.au and has the title “Islamophobia an “insidious term” used to silence and smear criticism”. It runs for a bit over 5 minutes and I was very impressed with it. It features Christopher Hitchens warning about the Islamophobia term back in 2009 and this Naz Shah raving on in the UK parliament and very good commentary by Rita Panahi, who was brought up as a Muslim and is now an atheist as I have often heard her say. I thought this was really worth watching. I’m hopeless on technology, and when it comes to technology I could qualify as a Muslim “scholar”. Anyway, I hope people can find this.
James Lincoln says
tim,
I think that this is the YouTube video that you were referring to. Great commentary by Rita Panahi – very gutsy, uncommon in the Western media.
And Naz Shah putting the “profit” mohammed (piss be upon him) at the same level as Winston Churchill is beyond laughable.
Thanks for the video recommendation!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3PsI1_xafI
tim gallagher says
Yes, that’s it, James. I was very impressed by this segment and thought that people who visit Jihad Watch would like to see it. It is relevant to the issues discussed at Jihad Watch. The three presenters on “Outsiders”, Rowan Dean, probably the funniest of the the three, James Morrow, originally from New York, and Rita Panahi definitely tear into the left’s sacred cows -all the woke idiocy, etc. Rita Panahi, as you can imagine, does cop plenty of abuse on social media, as all the conservative commentators do, but she seems to laugh it off. She was born in the USA, went to Iran with her Muslim parents for a while and ended up coming to Australia. I remember that she was on a program with one of the other presenters on Sky News and she showed a photo of herself, when aged around 8 or so, wearing the Muslim head gear, while in Iran, and said she hated wearing it. She ditched Islam. I find that she is still a bit soft on islam (compared to where I stand), probably because she would have family members who are still Muslims. I agree about that maggot in the UK Parliament trying to compare Muhammad (who I don’t believe ever existed) with Churchill. Absolutely foul garbage from her. I like the speech by Christopher Hitchens and Panahi saying that we didn’t listen to his warning back in 2009. It is true that not enough people took notice of the warning about the term Islamophobia.
gravenimage says
Good for Rita Panahi! Thanks for the link, Tim and James.
somehistory says
J.L,
I believe it’s those who are wholly devoted to the filth, ugly as can be, and “know” only islam and nothing else what-so-ever; still they are often confused about what their book of evil filth actually says. After all, it is a book from satan and it’s all about making people confused and written in a very confusing way.
Totally opposite from what the Bible says about God: “He is a God of order, not of confusion.”
Infidel says
But don’t they wanna abolish the state of Israel? What’s the point of sending more Jews there and reinforcing the numbers of their enemies?
Like I said elsewhere, logic is haram in islam
gravenimage says
He is saying that the elite in America is planning to send Jews to Israel. He does not consider this a good thing, Infidel.
I don’t blame you for being confused, though–I had to read through this twice before what he was saying was clear. Muslims are not big on rational thought.
James Lincoln says
Infidel,
I read it as an attempt to get “all the Jews” in one place – for annihilation.
Really sick stuff…
somehistory says
I agree, J.L.
Round them up, as hitler,,,their idol of last century…did in order to exterminate every one of them.
gravenimage says
That is also possible, James.
gravenimage says
American Islamic Scholar Omar Baloch said that in Islam it is permissible to steal for survival, however, the punishment for white-collar crimes, stealing a lot of money, is to chop off the culprit’s hands. He made his remarks in a video titled: “San Francisco Goes into Chaos, Shoplifting & Shariah Law,” which was posted on his YouTube channel on July 3, 2021….
Omar Baloch: “In the shari’a, in Islamic law, if someone has to steal, then he can steal for survival, up to the value of one egg.
……………………….
The shoplifting spree here–really, this is a misnomer given the organized nature of these crimes–involves such items as designer bags targeted at Neiman Marcus–are worth a bit more than “one egg”. And none of these thugs are stealing because they are hungry–they aren’t swiping sandwiches.
Then, the idea that brutal Shari’ah law is reserved for white collar crime is obviously ludicrous. There is no mention of “white collar crime” or anything similar in the Qur’an or Hadiths; and Islamic countries have amputated the hands of pickpockets and other petty thieves.
And no matter *what* is going on in the west, the idea that it would be improved with the imposition of savage Shari’ah law is bullsh*t.
Eleanor says
My question is, what is Omar Baloch doing living in America? Who let this scumbag or his parents into the country?
gravenimage says
I found more on him–he is also claiming that ISIS is American and Israeli–but at the same time claims that Americans and Jews are trying to “aleinate Muslims from the concept of Jihad”:
https://www.facebook.com/memri.org/photos/chicago-islamic-scholar-omar-baloch-israel-arms-and-trains-isis-uses-it-to-desta/10157755782924717/
There is no reason in Islam.
Giacomo Latta says
Too bad Muhammad hadn’t decided that lying and hate speech were crimes punishable by chopping off the tongue. His Islam idea would never have made it out of the egg.
Rarely says
I suppose that there wasn’t a whole lot of white collar crime in mohammed’s day. Even today the GDP of the entire Arab-Muslim middle east countries, excluding fossil fuels, is less than Norway’s. (in all fairness, that stat is about ten year’s old).
gravenimage says
Good point, Rarely. And places like Saudi Arabia often hire westerners to do actual managerial work. There is a of graft and corruption in the Muslim world, but overall little of what we would recogtnize as “white collar crime”. And evern less so in the days of the “Prophet”, of course. His Taqiyya is pretty ham-fisted.