The pope’s words are self-refuting. His own “dialogue” with Muslim leaders hasn’t prevented a single Christian from being persecuted or a single church from being destroyed. His Human Fraternity document with the Grand Sheikh of al-Azhar hasn’t led the Taliban or any other Islamic group to lay down their arms and end their jihad. Dialogue has never worked. Why does he think it will work in Afghanistan?
“Pope prays for peace in Afghanistan as Taliban takes control,” by Junno Arocho Esteves, Catholic News Service, August 16, 2021:
VATICAN CITY (CNS) — Hours before the Taliban took control of Afghanistan’s capital, Kabul, Pope Francis expressed his hope for the peace and safety of the country’s citizens.
“I join in the unanimous concern for the situation in Afghanistan. I ask all of you to pray with me to the God of peace, so that the clamor of weapons might cease and solutions can be found at the table of dialogue,” the pope said Aug. 15 during his Angelus address.
Only through dialogue, he added, “can the battered population of that country — men, women, elderly and children — return to their own homes, and live in peace and security, in total mutual respect.”…
rooare says
Well hop on a plane to Afghanistan and show us how it’s done. And while your at it take in a bunch of these Islamist refuges, aka jihadis, into the Vatican like you continue to tell others to do.
jule says
No NonMuslim can ever TALK to a someone of Islam. its a one way street. We cannot talk to them anywhere. Why is this so hard for people to get? They are completely different from of our brain field. Thats like saying go talk to a lion pride to stop hunting. No on can Do it.
CogitoErgoSum says
Yeah, once the Taliban has finished killing all its opposition it will be very quiet and peaceful in Afghanistan. I’m just wondering how peaceful they will make it for the rest of the world. Yeah right, I’m sure they are going to listen to what the Pope has to say. That is just one more thing that makes them laugh.
jule says
Kill opposition, cut out everyone elses tongue and a few limbs & then they get peace. Islamit style peace.
Johnny B says
He should make a good example and visit the Taliban and have a dialog with them.
Madeleine Dunn says
Signing that “human fraternity’ meaningless taqiya crap document and smooching with the blood thirsty sheik has been such a boon to mankind. Keep up, kiss the sheik’s ass some more, mr pope.
jule says
He still thinks they are a Religion of Abraham. Because they said so, of course.
Commons says
The aim of Jihad has been spelled out in Quran and Hadis which is in a perfect consonance with its aggressive intent and design. Although it is important for Islam to convert unbelievers, the call for converting the infidels to Islam has been made subservient to the goal of plunder, rape, violence and slaughter. The Holy book of Islam repeatedly talks about concubinage of infidel women. That is why Jihad attacks are invariably marked by rape and violation of infidel’s women even when the loss of life is minimal.
Dan says
For any here who’d like to know, Glenn Beck’s “Nazarene Fund” started raising money Wednesday to finance planes and pilots willing to fly into Afghanistan and rescue Christians.
Years ago, Afghanis were forced to put their religion on their passports and identification, and now the Taliban is going door to door, with the order that Christians are to be burned alive.
The fund needed 20 million to rescued around 5 thousand people, and it was raised in ONLY TWO DAYS, all from Mr. Beck’s AMERICAN audience as the rest of the mainstream media so far has not carried the story.
N.F. people in Afghanistan are scouting securable landing sites, planes and crew are ready to fly, and this morning the first Christians were smuggled out.
Check it for yourself, but the Nazarene spends 100% of donation money on the requested causes.
For their staff’s yearly expenses, they hold a SEPARATE annual Charity Ball.
Also, the organization has a vetting process that is the envy of the rest of the world, including many international law organizations, so there WON’T be any nut job islamists getting through.
Last, dozens of countries have accepted already accepted these refugees, with ONLY the U.S. government refusing to have anything to do with this organization, and in particular, this operation.
Doomer says
Now that is really impressive,to save all the 5,000 Christians in Afghanistan.I will tell all my hedonistic friends,so they will know see what real heroism is.
Johnny B says
The motivation may be honorable but I’m not sure this is the way to go. The other day I saw a video where an Afghan Christian was crying because of what was going on in his country. However, he finished it with a promise that they were going to stay and keep fighting meaning continue to spread the Good News in Afghanistan. I’ve heard Iranian Christians saying the same thing; they don’t want to go anywhere, they also want to stay and spread the good news. Notice how it’s not the Christians coming to Europe, it’s the Muslims.
Terry Gain says
Beck reminded his audience yesterday that Obama would not accept Christian refugees in 2011 when he attempted to hand Iraq to ISIS. The Catholic Church of course refused to disassociate itself from its support for Obama and the Democrat Party at that time or since.
I cannot in good conscience support the church of my birth.
gravenimage says
There *might* be 5000 Christians in Afghanistan–I doubt there are many more. Statistically the country is 100% Muslim.
Joeyn says
Right now the world has a dope for the President of the USA as well aa a dope for a Pope. These two dopey characters can exchange places and the world would still be exactly the same (i.e. on its way to going to the dogs in a hurry)
Rarely says
And the Taliban’s incentive to hold dialogue would be what?
Lunch at the Vatican? I think not.
gravenimage says
+1
somehistory says
The “pope” says that “dialogue” between ??? and the bloodguilty, bloodlusters of the mozlums…the tally ho bandits, will bring “peace and security.”
The Apostle Paul said…under divine inspiration…”Whenever it is they are saying ‘peace and security,’ then sudden destruction will be instantly upon them as birth pangs upon a pregnant woman, and they will, by no means, escape.”
The “pope” has no credibility, He’s a liar and the son of the father of lies; a friend of those mozlums who demand that the worldwide human population submit to satan.
The Apostle Paul….chosen by Christ to preach His good news to the “people of the nations.”
Terry Gain says
Unlike Biden, the Pope is not a demented. It must be the case therefore that the Pope is a fraud. Nothing he says should be accepted at face value. Christians have been slaughtered thorough his papacy by Muslims in the Middle East and North Africa and his response has been callous indifference. He doesn’t care. He is a contemptible Marxist.
James Lincoln says
Terry Gain,
100% correct.
The Pope is a fake, a phony, and a fraud.
And a muslim apologist / globalist Marxist…
tim gallagher says
Sheer idiocy. What is the point of dialogue with the Taliban. All the harsh, inhuman rules of Islam that the Taliban live by are set in stone. Dialogue with them can’t change a thing in the minds of the knuckle dragging, barely human Taliban members. It just seems as if the Pope thinks that he has to make some kind of comment on Afghanistan and a meaningless, vague term like “dialogue” is all he can come up with.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Tim.
tim gallagher says
Yes, gravenimage, “dialogue” just seems like the type of vague, peaceful sounding types of words that church leaders, not just the Pope, would use. I suppose that saying such stuff makes them feel that they being useful, but the idea of dialogue with some types of people is idiotic. When dealing with vicious, inhumane knuckle draggers like the Taliban, it is a ludicrous idea. There have been church leaders who would have called these scum from the Taliban satanically evil, which is what they are, but this wishy washy Pope is not that type of church leader.
gravenimage says
Pope Francis says ‘dialogue’ is the only path to ‘peace and security’ in Afghanistan
The pope’s words are self-refuting. His own “dialogue” with Muslim leaders hasn’t prevented a single Christian from being persecuted or a single church from being destroyed. His Human Fraternity document with the Grand Sheikh of al-Azhar hasn’t led the Taliban or any other Islamic group to lay down their arms and end their jihad. Dialogue has never worked. Why does he think it will work in Afghanistan?
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Really, that says it all.
vlparker says
Since we are always trying to win wars without hurting anybody maybe we could talk them to death.
Infidel says
Talk to them about colonialism, critical race theory and the like. They’ll shoot themselves to death
Walter Sieruk says
That’s a very ignorant statement to say that there should be “dialogue” with the Taliban in the hope, , an empty, for hope the establishment “peace and security ” in Afghanistan.
At best any “talks” with the Taliban would only result in “spinning our wheels” in a complete waste of time, energy, effort and words.
At worst, having dialogue with the Taliban would only have outcome of disaster because the Taliban be engaging in Islamic deception of non-Muslims. Which is the Islamic doctrine of Taqyyia which is the Muslim belief that “Lying and deception are good things to do as long as the lied and deception are done for the good and advancement of Islam.. The horrible fruits of that would be a claimity.
History shows that having dialogue with tyrants never has good or worthwhile outcomes of any value but only catastrophe , as diplomatic talks with Hitler appeared productive at first ,by giving the illusion of “peace in our time” but the harsh reality was that in ended in World War II.
Pope Francis doesn’t seem to care that the Bible reveals that have talks with evil only results of greater evil disasters. As the Bible message of “No dialogue with the Devil” is clearly seen in the Old Testament book of Genesis where in a beautiful garden Eastward of place called “Eden” Adam’s wife ,Eve was talking with Satan through a serpent and the results of those talks was nothing but total disaster ,not only for her and Adam but for all humankind. This tragic even is recorded in Genesis chapter 3.
Likewise having “dialogue” with the Taliban would only have an outcome of evil.
Shirley Ann says
I agree with all the comments shown here, the POPE & INSTALLED PRESIDENT ARE BOTH DOPES, BUT DOPES WITH POWER.
Not one word from his Holiness about the Genocide of Christians In Afghanistan & elsewhere, but he is praying to THE GOD OF PEACE. That’s worrisome for me, because it means that the Pope believes there are multiple gods. NO, that is Heresy, as the POPE surely is aware. He is a Marxist Windbag & I can not accept anything he spouts.
Giacomo Latta says
Yes, his words. Was he referring to the ”religion” that its leaders call it whenever a follower is caught slicing up an unbeliever or whenever a Western politician who is inextricably caught up in leftist drivel must say to stay on the good side of the MSM? Or is he too ashamed to call himself a Roman Catholic given its own heavy baggage?