My latest in PJ Media:
Donald Trump hasn’t been president for eight months now, but some Leftists had become so used to marinating in their Trump-hate over the last four years that they just can’t let the Bad Orange Man go. Over the last few days, “comedian” Bill Maher and “intellectual” Sam Harris have both gone out of their way to claim that the mess Old Joe Biden and his handlers have made of Afghanistan is positively Trumpian in the sheer grandeur of the catastrophe. If any sane people are left around Maher and Harris, they might take them aside and quietly remind them that Trump never presided over anything remotely resembling the disaster in Afghanistan, but then again, if these high-profile Leftists were interested in rational argumentation, they wouldn’t be Leftists in the first place.
Maher said Friday of Afghanistan: “This country crashed faster than a condominium in Miami.” But he felt more sorrow than anger toward the man responsible, saying, “I feel bad for Biden.” He did his best to make it all Trump’s fault, or at least Trump-like: “The adults are back in charge, the people who know what they’re doing, the Democrats, and the pullout looks — I can’t think of how it could’ve been any different if it was Trump. I mean, how could it be more f—ed up? How could it be more incompetent? How could it be more Trumpian? So what do I say to myself to get to sleep at night when the adults are back in charge and they f— it up exactly as bad as Trump would?”
Maher may have gotten this idea from Harris, who tweeted Wednesday: “Biden achieves near-Trumpian negligence here. But unlike Trump, whose reputation among his fans was magically shielded from earthly damage, Biden can’t get away with being a callous moron in an emergency—and he shouldn’t. This is all just sickening.”
But seriously, what exactly did Trump handle as incompetently as Biden’s handlers have handled Afghanistan? Certainly not Afghanistan itself, where Trump wanted to withdraw but has stated since this debacle began that he would have done so much more carefully, and with conditions given to the Taliban to ensure a safe and orderly departure for the Americans. No doubt Maher and Harris and their ilk don’t believe that he would have carried off the withdrawal with that much competence and aplomb, but we’ll never know that. So what examples can they give us of staggering incompetence during the Trump administration, as an indication of how badly the America-First president might have mishandled the departure from Afghanistan?
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CogitoErgoSum says
They are still looking for a pony in the pile of horse manure that their Uncle Joe has given them.
mortimer says
What a jerk! He’s ‘sorry’ for Joe-mentia, but not for the millions of lives that will be shattered by the Taliban. Maher is an amoral monster.
gravenimage says
Actually, Maher has spoken out against Jihad terror before. The idea that he is actually pro-Taliban is mistaken.
Mike says
on what level is this 45’s fault
Gear says
He agreed to free 5,000 Taliban from prison in 2020. The botched withdrawal is utterly Biden’s fault, but Trump wasn’t that smart either with his move.
gravenimage says
Anyone regarding negotiations possible with the bloody Taliban is naive–and yes, that unfortunately does include President Trump.
gravenimage says
Bill Maher, Sam Harris Claim Biden’s Afghanistan Mess Is ‘Trumpian’
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Uh, right–even though nothing like this happened under Trump.
mortimer says
Donald Trump brought peace in the Middle East, destroyed ISIS, brought peace in Israel, stopped the aggression of Iran.
Biden has made a return to Afghanistan INEVITABLE. A new war in Afghanistan is about to begin through the Old Dotard’s mental collapse.
Joe-mentia should be COURT-MARTIALED and relieved of command for the worst military order in American history.
commonsense says
+1
gravenimage says
Mortimer, I don’t think I’d go so far as to say Trump brought peace to the Middle East–after all, Israel was attacked from Gaza just last year, and the Islamic State had to be dismantled–no Infidel could reform Islam. But there is no doubt that Trump did a great deal of good.
Grace says
Only jerks like this could be so enamored of Joe Biden, boss of “The Biden crime Family.” It’s not just the title of a book. Mahar is a smart man with a ‘Stupid Tic’ condition that controls his reason. .
Kepha says
Frankly, I’ve given up on nighttime comedy. It is all so utterly predictable. Bibulous Bill and Sophomoric Sam lost my attention ages ago.
James Lincoln says
Kepha,
In the new woke West, comedy is officially dead.
Even Jerry Seinfeld acknowledges this…
gravenimage says
Grimly this is largely true.
mortimer says
The good news is that the Left has now turned on Joe-mentia, their one-time hero beyond compare.
The scales are dropping from their eyes, but they are still not in the least honest about President Trump’s many outstanding achievements.
scott kuehl says
To deranged and psychoticTrump-haters like Maher and Harris and millions of other leftists and neoconservatives, I suppse Biden’s decision to open the border with Mexico wider than ever before by reversing all of Trump’s policies, intentionally faciliating and fostering record levels of illegal migration not only from Mexico and Central Ameri7can and Haiti but also the Muslim world and sub-Saharan Africa, an invasion of millions of illegal aliens during Biden’s first 7-months in office, including myriads of crimiinals, drug-traffickers, rapists, murderes, ses-traffickers, MS-13 savages,etc., and who knows how many Muslim terroiists, is also “Trumpian,” somehow the fault of Trump.
And in leaving Afganistan Trump would not have “stranded” 10-15 thousand Americans, And it now appears that Biden will do nothing to prevent the medeival savages and monsters of the Taliban from beating and raping and torturing and beheaing and stoning them to death. But to Harris and Maher, that’s Trumpia,” the fault of Trump
mortimer says
Maher has the burden of proof to show how Pres. Trump ‘screwed up’ anything. Maher will be unable to find a major issue where the result was not effective from building the border wall to destroying ISIS and paralyzing the attempts of the Taliban.
When challenged to ‘name one thing’ where Trump failed or was wrong, I have found the Leftists have no answer.
Aussie Infidel says
Mortimer, Most people regard politics as a personality contest. I use the same tactic on my leftist friends when they start criticizing Trump. I just ask, “Which of his policies do you disagree with”? The silence is usually deafening.
john smith says
I will have to remember that one Aussie.”Which of his policies do you disagree with”
James Lincoln says
Aussie Infidel,
The Democrats I know who voted for Biden didn’t “like” Trump because they felt that he was:
1. Crude.
2. Rude.
3. Offensive.
4. Loud.
And they didn’t like his “mean” tweets.
But when asked about which policies they disliked: crickets.
Jim says
As a senator he could always hide in the crowd. As a Democrat, he could always blame the Republicans and Trump. But now he is the president, and he is responsible for the mess he caused with his executive orders and policy decisions. But now he expects he can still blame Trump and the media and Hollywood will always defend him. But this time he has made too big a mess. He suggests a child caught doing something wrong who blames it on the other children. Only he is not a child. These witless entertainers are not going to get him out of the mess he created, not this time.
Aussie Infidel says
With that condescending smirk on his face, Maher looks like someone who is more amused by his own jokes than his audience. And while I have sometimes applauded Harris in opposing supernatural gobble-de-gook, he seems unable to see past his leftist nose.
As they say, if people are not at least somewhat rebellious in adolescence, they aren’t thinking very much. But if they are still rebellious in middle age, either they haven’t learned much of substance about the world, or just haven’t grown up.
tgusa says
Here we have Bill. An actor that failed because he was an annoying turn off most everyone when and wherever he appeared on screen. A prominent and well respected voice on the left today. He is always speaking to the left and their not so bright masses straight from his NYC based CCP made chair labels President Trump supporters a cult. President Trump supporters, a diverse group of similarly thinking Americans who come from many backgrounds are a cult. I don’t think that joke would go over in Vegas.
Mr x says
Taliban takeover of afghanistan was inevitable whether it was Trump or biden.
wpm says
Lets say that is true ” Mr X” the manor of leaving over 52 billion dollars worth of high grade arms, pulling the troops out before getting at least 15000 American citizen ( also vetting Afghan people who work with us getting them out why should anyone work with us again??) out of the country closing down the best airport to remove our people according to military experts using an airport with one runway with few roads into it. Starting the process in the summer the high point of fighting season for the Taliban instead of the winter because of the bad winters in Afghanistan according to military experts .All these bad decisions are on Biden,s head ,because he wanted us out by September 11 ,2021.Biden said after all these mistakes he would not change a thing .Not contacting or talking to other world leaders our allies after the pull out .Going back to vacation when everything went sideways. Obama talk about leaving but did not after talking to military advisors when he was in office. Trump said he had a plan to remove our troops we will never know if it was a better plan or that plan would be changed .We still have troops in many countries all over the world. We now have a August 31 deadline established by the Taliban with thousands of American citizen held as possible hostages, a well armed Taliban with 52 billion dollars worth of new American arms, We have thousands of unvetted Afghan people being bought to the west with the possibility in the future that those numbers could be expanded to millions. Was all this “inevitable” because we have a senile old man in charge who would not listen to anyone or the people who pull his stings wanted this to happen? What is Biden talking about? Americans need to mask up ,he refuses to address the real crisis the world is in . The state department has no idea haw many Americas are left in Afghanistan ,has no idea who is getting on the planes friends or enemies Jihadist being bought to live in the west as “refugees” .How many more times will Biden be force to hide in his basement when future crisis fall onto Americans heads ??
Mr x says
Definitely, Trump would have handled this much better. I was talking about taliban ruling the country, this would have happened even under Trump. The only way to stop the Taliban from ruling afghanistan is by the presence of usa military in Afghanistan permanently, which was opposed even by Trump.
wpm says
A five year child would handled it better ,but the MSM is still blaming Trump for Biden,s idiotic mistakes. Trump has been out of office for over 7 months ,how long does he have to be out of office before the MSM has to omit that backing Biden a senile and weak man was a mistake ,Biden has endanger much of the free world with his failed policies ,right now he has the CIA over there trying to bribe the Taliban into letting American citizens leave Afghanistan. Biden is following the Taliban,s August 31 deadline, he is having America troops at the airport stand down as British and French troops leave the airport and try to escort their citizens to safety. He is more concern with Americans masking up at home then his failed policies leading us America and much of the western world into a world war because of his failed policies. That is just my opinion ,we have a weak confused man leading the country our enemies would be fools not to take advantage of this .
Peter Burrows says
Yep.
https://silvercityburro.com/2021/08/22/afghanistan-its-more-bushs-fault-than-bidens/(opens in a new tab)
wpm says
The last Bush in office left in Jan 2009 ,we first got involved military by backing Islamic Jihadist against the Russians in 1979, It was expanded under Reagan but started under Carter. Moving forward Biden,s hostage crisis that is starting to unfold because of his policy of removing all troops before our American citizens makes Carter,s hostage crisis with Iran in 1979 look like small potatoes. Leaving 52 billion dollars of American arms is Biden,s parting “gift” to terrorist who will set up base in Afghanistan for decades to come.. It is only my opinion me not being an “expert” like all Biden,s administration talking heads who can not even give a “guessmate” of how many Americans are still left in Afghanistan or how to get them out ,or even that they are really are” trapped” because they can “send e-mails to the outside world” all “experts ” who have a deer in the headlight look as they spin like tops in front of the MSM .None of the experts is ask to resign over this mess including our very confused commander and Chief.. With the importation of unvetted Afghanistan “refugees” to the west because none of the 52 or so odd Moslem majority countries will take them what could go wrong??. With a president who projects weakness ,is in mental decline ,who wants to blame anyone else for his idiotic policies what could go wrong? Where mistakes made in the last 41 years yes, was this the biggest mistake made in the last 41 some odd years ,yes in my humble opinion Biden owns this mistake Biden only. What Trump would or would not have done is not a point at all if my Aunt had balls she would be my Uncle .,That is true in an “unwoke world” in this woke world of western idiotic anything can be true if you are very emotional about it. DTS has melted all reasonable logic though, truth in the MSM. Mask up shut up if you are a true “good” American if not you a label a “white supremist” ,a “science denier ” lets all stay home collect unemployment watch Net Flicks until the next 911 hits home ,because in my opinion Biden policies have planted the seeds of many future terror attacks on American soil.
gravenimage says
This is true, Mr x–but as wpm notes, there was no reason to endanger American and other western civilians, nor to leave ordnance for the Taliban to use. It should have been removed or destroyed.
Fred L. Kingsbury says
Robert, i respect all you do and have followed your work and Jihad Watch for many year now. It is a great and important service to help awaken humanity to the horrific consequences of barbaric beliefs. I am also a huge fan of Sam Harris. He as well has been a strong, eloquent, and brave voice writing and speaking out against religious-based / theocratic ignorance and tyranny. Sam’s brilliant critique of faith-based man-made religions explores the intellectually fallible and emotionally fragile bedrock of all supernatural beliefs…. faith itself. Now, i’m 100% certain you agree and enthusiastically support Sam’s unmasking of the horrors and consequences of hundreds of millions of our fellow humans having ‘faith’ and an unshakable belief in the literature that Islam is based on. You and Sam could have had a very productive public collaboration and conversation years ago about that topic and its a shame that never happened. Am i wrong to speculate that your constant criticisms of Sam is because he so deftly does that same to your beloved Christianity?
gravenimage says
Fred, your idea that Robert Spencer’s reasonably calling out Sam Harris blaming Biden’s actions on Trump is because Spencer is a Christian makes no sense at all–this is just calumny.
I note that you do not say in what way blaming this on President Trump–he has been out of office for 8 months now–is rational.
In fact, Robert Spencer has often allied with Atheists and Agnostics–including long-term Jihad Watch contributor Hugh Fitzgerald.
Robert Spencer has no problem with anyone criticizing religion, including Christianity. He is a staunch defender of freedom of speech. Sorry to see you have missed that.
OLD GUY says
What B.S. from these hate Trump mouth pieces. Even if it was Trumps plan Joe has canceled and stoped everything he can that Trump put in by executive order. Biden probably doesn’t even know the details of the get out of Afghanistan plan or where he laid it down.
wpm says
Biden would not even cancel his “vacation” when this went sideways. His answer is crisis “what crisis” this is going as plan! His mouth piece to the press says the Americans are not really” trapped” they can still e-mail us and tex message us? How bad would this be if he did not plan LOL?
Mike says
Thanks Bob ! At least someone to put back in place Sam Harris.I hate all what this man represents: fake high IQ ,fake false precision , over estimation of himself , false neutral appearance , leftist scumbag in an apparent ultra right packaging . Over all a mom’s boy .
Intruder says
Harris’s tweet is a complain about biden.
And to be honest, the deal with the Taliban was mostly a capitulation, however, on this withdrawal I think Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt. But you’ll never know what Trump would have done.
gravenimage says
It’s a complaint about Biden–but only insofar as he is claiming that this botched withdrawal is “Trumpian”. Surely one has the right to adress this?
Dogman58 says
President Trump…1st and foremost would have evac American Citizens first…then the Afghanistan personnel…removed the hardware and destroy any base that could be used against the USA…then extract all military personnel….remind you with the understanding that if the taliban interfered that they will get their 72 virgins…after their body parts were splatter across the terrain…..just sayin’
Giacomo Latta says
”Biden can’t get away with being a callous moron in an emergency—and he shouldn’t.”
Perhaps an aide asked back in January if Afghanistan should be evacuated while the Taliban are busy clearing their caveways of snow and last Wednesday he said ”OK.”
Dogman58 says
Bill M. is an idiot…just sayin’