Good thing the British government is so vigilant in keeping foes of jihad terror out of the country, and vilifying and marginalizing those who live there. Otherwise this Somali may have been impeded in his jihad, and that would have been “Islamophobic.”
“David Amess stabbing – latest: Counter-terror police leading probe into death of ‘kind, committed’ Tory MP,” by Jon Sharman, Independent, October 15, 2021:
…However, The Independent understands that the suspect is of Somali origin, and the murder is being treated at this point as a probable Islamist terror attack….
“David Amess stabbing: Terror police investigate extremism link to MP’s death,” by John Simpson, Oliver Wright, David Brown, Fiona Hamilton, and Billy Kenber, The Times, October 15, 2021:
Counterterrorism police are investigating possible links between Islamist extremists and a knifeman who stabbed to death the Conservative MP Sir David Amess.
The suspect is believed to be a foreign national, a source said. However, they added that it was “entirely possible” a terrorism motive would be ruled out.
The source said the knifeman did not use phrases often associated with an Islamist attacks to indicate a terrorist motivation. Police will examine his telephone to establish if there are links to extremism.
The suspect, 25, who is reported to be Somalian, calmly waited for police to arrive after the fatal attack. He was arrested at the scene on suspicion of murder and is being questioned by police. Investigators are working to establish a motive for…
Hugh Fitzgerald says
“Working to establish a motive”?
How’s this: David Arness was a member of the Conservative Friends of Israel and a stout defender of the Jewish state. He was also the driving force behind the erection in London of.a statue of Raoul Wallenberg, the Swede who helped rescue many Jews during World War II.
gravenimage says
Yes, Hugh–and he also apparenlty came out against the wave of stabbing attacks in Britain. Opposing Jihad terror attacks may in itself have been enough of a motive…
Lion heart says
Gravenimage: There is a Syrian-American EX-Muslim and a female psychiatrist her named is “ Dr. Wafaa Sultan “ once said “ if we were to give the westerners a hard slap on their faces , yet they would never wake up “ meaning no matter how hard Ex-Muslims and Christians of the Middle East try to raise awareness to the West about the evil ideology of Islam, the ( too many ) westerners would not believe it or take it seriously .
gravenimage says
Lion heart, the very first “Heroes Against Jihad” figure I did was Wafa Sultan, but I had not heard that specific quote from her before. Sadly apt, I’m afraid.
But kudos to her and all other brave ex-Muslims for not giving up–and kudos as well to non-Muslims from Dar-al-Islam like your self who also try and spread the word about the threat of Islam,. Some in the West *are* listening.
Buraq says
The comment section below the videos posted on YouTube concerning this jihad attack mention the ‘religion of peace’. Everybody knows what’s going on in Britain.
Egor says
Rather, it is going on world wide. A large number of people can see that but still the West brings them in to stimulate the economy. You put a fox in the chicken coop don’t be surprised when the chickens start dying. Now we shall have all the platitudes, which this fellow appears to deserve, and the vigils and the other nonsense that goes with it. and nothing will be done to fix the problem. Generally, the whole political class are a disgrace..
gravenimage says
Buraq, patriotic Britons need to speak out.
Ecosse1314 says
Obviously a nutcase or a muslim….but i repeat myself
Rarely says
It’s very disturbing when politicians are being murdered. Intimidation of politicians is not an option in any country purporting to be a democracy. Could that statement include the January 6th “sight-seeing” tour of the US Capitol I wonder?
Ecosse1314 says
How many died there Rarely?
Rarely says
What’s the minimum number of deaths required before one can say that an attempt to intimidate occurred?
BTW. It’s possible to successfully argue that an attempt to intimidate is in fact intimidation itself.
Ecosse1314 says
Pure semantics.this is an article about a brutal murder that occurred today. You are trying to turn it into an anti-republican rant. You sir are a disgrace
Rarely says
Anti-Republican? Are you saying that the January 6th “parade” was a Republican event? That Republicans were trying to intimidate the VP and the Senate? Wow.
Rufluc says
When democracy breaks down and fraudulent corrupted political parties are allowed to undermine presidential elections, then events like what happened on the 6th Jan on Capital Hill are bound to happen. What other means do they have?
When the electoral results are so blatantly falsified by such a large consortium of corrupt Democrats, and all lawful methods of challenging those results are equally as corrupt, then events like that will happen.
The Arizona forensic audit clearly showed that corruption and fraud was carried out on a massive scale, but STILL the fake news media tried to report the exact opposite by claiming that Biden received even more votes than was initially reported. The whole affair was, and still is a massive left wing conspiracy of lies and fraud, and the ignorant masses lap the lies up like a cat laps up milk!
Rarely says
And here I thought the most recent Arizona audit was carried out by a company Trump had chosen and paid for. Rumour has it that they confirmed Trump lost Arizona. However the new science of Trumpmathematics has Trump winning Arizona by a landslide.
Who was it who coined the phrase: Figures don’t lie but liars figure?
E T says
Who shot the unarmed women, was he your hero, he was just another left loon coward.
I remember when you told me I was a conspiracy Thyroid Mary, for saying we would have vaccine passports, try and keep up, it may be a struggle, but do try.
I am beginning to understand the name “Rarely”
gravenimage says
“Angela Rayner: No apology for ‘Tory scum’ comments”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGoSthJJAG8&ab_channel=SkyNews
She’s Labour.
Rufluc says
I’m beginning to realize that your second name is ‘think’, because that seems to be what you clearly ‘rarely’ ever do! But I guess as a ‘leftie’ with severe TDS, that’s to be expected.
It was the Arizona Senate that organised the audit, independent of Trump. Donations from supporters paid for it, with the Senate paying only $150k of the total $5.7 million.
Physically the vote count was near enough correct, but the massive fraud that was found (but not reported by the lying left MSM) was based on the validity of each of those votes. There were hundreds of thousands that had been falsified in favour of Biden.
For more than 255,000 early ballots, the early voting returns file did not match the county final vote file.
Over 9,000 mail-in votes were received and counted, exceeding the county’s official total.
A canvass revealed almost 3,400 more votes than reported.
On election day, there were 1,551 more votes cast than voters.
Despite relocating to Maricopa County after the October 5 deadline, over 23,000 voted via mail.
2,382 people voted in person in Maricopa County after moving away.
For moving out of state less than 29 days before the election, almost 2,000 voters were granted a complete ballot instead of a presidential-only ballot.
Almost 300 dead people reportedly have voted.
Nearly 2,500 votes were reported as uncast in the early voting results.
Dr. V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai, M.I.T. PhD, and his Echomail team looked for blank or scribbled signatures, as well as incomplete signatures. They discovered numerous blank signature boxes authorized by election authorities, which is against election standards and regulations.
The most surprising discovery came from examining signatures. His team found 34,448 duplicate ballots in the 2020 AZ general election. This implies that the results contained at least 17,224 votes that were invalid owing to duplicate or triple voting by the same person. Biden reportedly won Arizona by only 10,457 votes, nearly 7,000 less than the above mentioned invalid votes.
So there you go ‘Rarely’ it’s called the ‘Truth’, something you no doubt will deny as I expect you to do!
James Lincoln says
Rarely,
Here is the CEO of Cyber Ninjas clarifying comments he had made regarding the Maricopa County forensic audit.
My transcript of CEO Doug Logan being interviewed by OAN’s Christina Bobb:
OAN: The media is saying that your report confirms that Joe Biden won Arizona. Is that a true statement?
CEO: No, but that’s not really what our audit was about. Our audit was about advising legislative reform in ensuring we have integrity in our elections going forward.
OAN: If I understand the report correctly it shows if you count all of the ballots – including what could potentially be fraudulent ballots – then the result is somewhat close to what the county certified. However you also listed a number of areas which you think showed possible fraud.
CEO: That is correct. And the attorney general really needs to drill into those issues and to put together a report figuring out why they are or are not a concern.
OAN: Particularly you had 23,000 mail-in ballots that you had concerns about. Can you explain that.
CEO: Correct. There were 23,344 mail-in ballots that were mailed to someone’s prior address. They had moved out of that location and yet they were returned as mail-in ballots.
OAN: And that’s more than twice the margin of victory.
CEO: Correct.
OAN: So it’s fair to say that the result could have been changed.
CEO: There’s a possibility that the results changed.
https://rumble.com/vnsp9l-cyber-ninjas-ceo-doug-logan-clarifies-az-audit-results-10152021.html
ElderlyZionist says
AOC hid under her desk in a different building and peed her panties in terror!
Rarely says
Now THAT would be worth the price of admission all by itself.
David M says
Yes, but she lied & said she was at the Capital Building & heard them banging on her door. Then she had to shut up when someone pointed out she wasn’t even there.
Hey Rarely, you must be proud of Old Joe when he is awake. What are you most proud of: Afghanistan? The inflation? The supply chain crisis? Old Joe is so good he doesn’t even have to make a law or Executive Action, all he has to do is issue a press release & tell everyone to do as he says.
John says
I heard she keeps a very expensive vibrator in her office bathroom which she used on January 6 until the batteries died.
somehistory says
Those “investigators” are nuts. When the mozlums scream the “phrase” while attacking, the authorities say that it doesn’t mean a terror motive; it could be just a cry of happiness at finding the right door to enter, or something else totally benign.
In this case, he is not said to have screamed the phrase of happiness, so that means terror might be ruled out as a motive.
The poor man murdered. If the authorities did their job **before** terrorism was carried out by mozlums, after all, they are “counter-terrorism” people, then this gentleman might still be alive to carry on his life.
It seems…in just about every country on earth…the barn doors are closed after all of the horses escape. mozlums pour in, and some are put on “watch” lists, and then they are allowed to go about the business of terror…only after they murder does it matter what is their name, and a motive is sought…even for those who were on “watch lists.”
somalia and afghanistan and pakistan….breeding grounds for foul murderers who follow in the footsteps of the evil, mass-murdering, raper of children, sex-mad, slave-trading, filthy, thieving, flea-ridden sack of maggot dung, slimy, lying son of satan the devil
Perhaps i. elmi, alias i. omar could comment on the “motive” of her brethren, her comrade in arms.
gravenimage says
It has been determined that this was terrorism. One small bit of sanity from the UK.
DavidR says
Move along people. There’s nothing to see here. It didn’t happen. You’re crazy. Long live the narrative!
Krishna says
Obviously knew the murder is Islamic terrorism after seeing David amess political veiws
Infidel says
Hopefully, this would wake the Tories up on the dangers of ceaseless muslim immigration into their once great country
tim gallagher says
I suspect that they’ll soon be saying that this murdering scumbag was merely mentally ill, as usual, and not carrying out a murder as called for by islam. No, nothing to do with basically peaceful islam as usual. What struck me in that report from the The Times up above is this pathetic, very PC wording about how the murdering barbarian “did not use phrases often associated with islamist attacks”… Why not just say that he didn’t yell out “Allahu Akbar” and just tell the truth instead of using such wishy washy language.
somehistory says
Well, look who “advises” the anti-terror guys: Per Mr. Raymond Ibrahim
“A “moderate” Muslim cleric and counter-terrorism advisor to the UK government was recently caught on film referring to Israel as a “terrorist state” and praising “martyrs”—jihadist code for suicide bombers
During his speech, Imam Irfan Chishti told the crowd that “if they wanted to become ‘mujahideen,’ holy warriors, then they should emulate the Muslim general Saladin, who expelled the Crusaders from Palestine in 1187.” He then lamented, “Where is the modern-day Saladin?””
With “advisors” such as this, what future for actually “countering terrorism”?
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/10/saladin-paradigm-raymond-ibrahim/
gravenimage says
+1
Johnny B says
Nobody here is so stupid they don’t know what Islamic terrorism is, so you have to wonder why they always divert the attention away from this. It’s either somebody with mental issues or the motive remains “unclear”. If it’s a white guy commits atrocities like this, they immediately push their “white nationalist”, “Islamophobe”, “racist/nazi” narratives 24/7 for the next couple of years. What are they trying to accomplish, it’s the same script they all use. It’s like some kind of brain-washing going on and we have to figure out why they do it, because it’s sinister and not by accident.
Henry Schalk says
We’ll see if the media treats this murder of MP David Amess by a Muslim, in the same manner as the murder of the MP Jo Cox.
And how long before we begin seeing a media blitz that tells us Muslims are the victims here? And about their fears of a backlash?
Ade Fegan says
and still they refuse to join the dots
Henry Schalk says
We’ll see if the media treat this murder of MP David Amess by a Muslim perpetrator, differently from that of MP Jo Cox who is said to have been murdered by a white supremacist.
revereridesagain says
So far it’s hard to find coverage of it in the US media — even FOX — and the ones like CNN who do cover it all but turn themselves inside out avoiding to mention that the poor man’s murderer is Somalian and Muslim.
And what the hell is a “knifeman”? Is “murderer” now a “racist” or “Islamophobic” term?
“Long live the narrative”, indeed!
gravenimage says
Here’s Sky News:
“Tributes have been paid after Conservative MP David Amess was stabbed to death in his constituency – with police saying the early investigation revealed “a potential motivation linked to Islamist extremism”.”
https://news.sky.com/story/sir-david-amess-what-we-know-so-far-about-killing-of-conservative-mp-12434596
The Times of Israel:
“UK police: MP Amess killing was terrorism, potentially tied to Islamic extremism”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/british-police-declare-killing-of-mp-david-amess-a-terrorist-incident/
By the way, my English aunt lived in Leigh-on-Sea before she passed away.
shoehorn says
‘The source said the knifeman did not use phrases often associated with an Islamist attacks to indicate a terrorist motivation.’
Does that mean to say he wasn’t trying to prove how great Allah is?
Donovan Nuera says
Maybe he was trying to be ironic and muttered “John 3:16” or “Mazel Tov!” .
Or he was exclaiming out loud how easy it was for him to enter the Methodist meeting hall and nobody thought to deem him as a potential jihadi threat despite a big knife outlined in the front of his hoodie front pocket!!!
gravenimage says
Yes–few mention that this Jihadist murdered Amess in a church.
Walter Sieruk says
The term “Islamist extremists “ was used with this picture .
Therefore its very fitting to make in known that the words “Islamist” and “Islamism” is a fake words that used that was made up after September 11, 2001 in order offend or upset non-violent Muslims. The real, actual, word is just “Islam.” Likewise, the word “Islamist” is also a bogus word that was made up after 9/11 in order not to offend or upset peaceful Muslims. To keep with reality, terms should better be used as “Islamic terrorist” or “Muslim terrorist” .
Let’s call people and thing as the really are.
Likewise , the terms “Radical Muslim” and “Islamic extremist” is actually a misuse of terms. “Moderate Muslim” are actually Western term and not that well known in the Islamic Middle East. This is because what In the Islamic mindset in the Muslim Middle East as well as in Indonesia and other Muslim controlled countries what the non-Muslims of the Western nations view as “radical and “extremist” the Muslims of those places in the world see as “Normal” and even Devout and committed to the Cause of Islam.”
Furthermore, those “Moderate Muslims” are those of the Islamic worldview and non-devout and non –committed Muslims. The violent jihadists even see them as “hypocrites.” Therefore, this explains the jihadist chant of those jihad-minded Muslims in different Islamic terror organizations. When they chant out loud “Death to infidels and hypocrites.” Meaning Death to people who and not Muslims and people who are non- jihadist Muslims.
Concerning the last part of this above essay, the violent spirit of that vicious jihadist chant “Death to infidels and hypocrites.” The later word of the chant “hypocrites” in the jihad –minded Muslim worldview is further explain in the book titled JIHADIST PSYCHOPATH by Jamie Glazov , for on page 42 the reader is informed that “Islam mandates that devout and real Muslims must punish , and in some circumstances kill, those Muslims whom they regard as neither legitimate nor properly devout.”
gravenimage says
Agreed–still, better to use these terms than not mention that he has any link to Islam at all, which is grimly common.
Rarely says
It is truly a great tragedy when a person as fine and worthy as David Amess seems to have been is lost to the World and, perhaps even more importantly, lost to his family.
There are too many valuable human beings being stolen from this World in this fashion.
David M says
Also ironic the politicians same policy of bringing in a mass immigration of backward third world people ended up killing him.
tgusa says
Its too late to tell him how wrong he was. So much for live and learn.
gravenimage says
Amess was certainly strongly against illegal immigration–this is something.
tgusa says
That makes it even worse. Rest in peace Sir.
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim linked to ‘Islamist extremists’ stabs MP to death
…………………..
I had heard about this and wondered if this was Jihad. David Amess had apparently also come out against the wave of stabbings, although I am unclear on whether he ever realized they were Islamic terrorism. He was also murdered in his church, Belfairs Methodist Church in Leigh-on-Sea.
He sounds like a good man–he will be missed.
Donovan Nuera says
Where was his police protection detail?
Did any of the villagers try to tackle the jihadist?
Funny that there was not even a single line DESCRIBING what the killer looked like in the early editions of this story. No Facebook photos?
Michael Copeland says
MPs are protected by police when in the House of Commons. They have no protection when on Constituency business such as here at his “surgery” where members of the public can come to speak to him.
MP Stephen Timms was stabbed but not killed by muslima Roshonara Choudry at his surgery in 2010.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that grim remainder about MP Stephen Timms, Michael.
Timms is actually pretty pro-immigration, and he is Labour. But his being an evangelical Christian and having voted for the Iraq war were enough for the Jihadist who tried to murder him.
jim says
Freedom of speech is under attack. This is something that has to be prevented, if a democratic society is to survive. If representatives and politicians cannot speak freely, then there is little or no democracy. We need to have more and more police protection to make possible the survival of democracy. And probably the power of certain political constellations must also be limited. This is also a reason why Biden immigration policies have to be abolished.
tgusa says
The assailant killed Mr. Amess and then sat down waiting to be arrested. The man was the target, no one else. All western nations have been infiltrated with islamists and islamic apologists. All western establishment types know this and they are all are scared, very scared. That is why we see very few come out and speak the truth. This virus has infected all of society from the top dog to the newest police recruit, civil servant, media personality and on and on. We are already in dark times and most of us didn’t see it coming.
Check Burry says
I have not as yet on any news channel seen and comments, or even a sigh from the mus council of Britain.
I hope they are looking closely at his mosk and its inhabitants.
VICTOR COWEN says
Whilst I am of course desperate for his friends and family and constituents.
I blame the MPs themselves for allowing this endless list of sub-human garbage into our country.
The MPs should go on trial not this half-witted Somali.
gravenimage says
MP Amess was strongly against illegal immigration. Not all MPs are to blame for these suicidal policies.
tgusa says
In a bizarre and twisted way many MPs are responsible for this mans death. We are living in an age of destructive do-gooders wrecking everything through their misplaced sympathies.
One thing I will say about Judas is at least he hung himself when he realized what he had done.
Rufluc says
They are currently saying the murderer was a ‘British born’ Somalian. Well of course they would say that wouldn’t they? They wouldn’t want to admit that he was one of the parasites coming in across the channel now would they? There’d be all hell to pay if that was the case.
No doubt the ‘politically correct’ list of excuses will start to be used in all the left wing MSM and in some way or another it will be the British public that will no doubt suffer and pay for the consequences of this latest atrocity. More money needed for security. £50,000/yr for 25 years to look after the murdering p.o.s in a new warm cosy cell.
And no doubt it’ll now become almost impossible to meet with your MP to discuss concerning issues. So let’s all thank, once again, the lunatic, insanely woke and barmy liberal left for allowing the UK to become a society where every true UK citizen is now at risk of their lives! Jus so that Muslims can maintain their ‘religious right’ to vent their demonic madness out on any UK citizens they so choose, without prejudice, hinderance or opposition whatsoever!
Michael Copeland says
“You people will never be safe!”
– Lee Rigby’s killer
Check Burry says
Ive not seen that he was born here, yes he had been given (wrongly) British citizenship, totally 1000% undeserved proved by his slimy cowardly act. We dont need more security we need more deportations. In big numbers, not 5 o6 a month (if that)
gravenimage says
If he was naturalized he should be stripped of his citizenship and deported if he ever gets out of prison.
J.Mac says
After scouring ALL other news sources looking for a description of the sociopath (obviously a jihadist terrorist) it was ONLY JihadWatch that revealed & published the TRUE FACTS..!!!!
gravenimage says
J., the story above does come from the Independent.
Giacomo Latta says
Unfortunately, an event like this was inevitable. Maybe now that the latest victim was not a ”nobody” Bojo will take the invasion of muslims as something requiring a serious response. Any such attempt will be portrayed by the Left as pure revenge since the Tories have done zilch in defence of ordinary UK citizens up to this point. Again, unfortunately because Bojo has had plenty of occasions to react to random, except for the Islam component, of other murders.
gravenimage says
Amess is not the first MP to be stabbed by a Jihadist–although he seems to be the first one murdered outright. Not for want of trying, though.
OLD GUY says
Religion of peace my ass. Islam is the ideology of violence and murder.
E T says
“Islam does not sanction the rule of selfish desires. It has come to abolish all such concepts, laws, customs and traditions, and to replace them with a new concept of human life, to create a new world on the foundation of submission to the Creator.””
“Our first task is to replace this Jahiliyyah with Islamic ideas and traditions. This cannot be brought about by agreeing with Jahiliyyah and going along a few steps with it from the very beginning, as some of us think we ought to do, for this will simply mean that from the very beginning we have accepted defeat.”
“ The chasm between Islam and Jahiliyyah is great, and a bridge is not to be built across it so that the people on the two side may mix with each other, but only so that the people of Jahiliyyah may come over to Islam.”
There is no “church” in Islam; no one can speak inthe name of God except His Messenger —-peace be on him. There are clear injunctions which define the limits of the Devine Law, the Shari’ah.”
“La ilaha illa Allah” —There is no deity except God”.
So to be clear, one has 3 options:
1. convert
2. Live as a slave and pay the zakat
3. DIE
“No political system or material power should put hindrances in the way of preaching Islam.”
gravenimage says
All grimly true, E T.
David Foot says
I wonder how many Ramadas has Boris booked for his friends coming to give us the odious Sharia law, how many are we paying Jizya for Boris?
How many benefit seeking invaders has Patel brought in on her Border Farce taxi today?
Boris just loves immigration has supported an amnesty and can’t get enough of the worst type and he is laughing, the Turkish descendant knows we can do nothing until the election. I hope everybody remembers!
Next month Patel will give us another porkie about stopping this while she brings in even more so they can live it up in the Ramadas which they have booked for them and the English destitute and homeless veterans can sleep in the street, the old people who cares? Priti has been doing this ever since 2019.
Prince Eugene says
The Religion That Shall Not Be Named
“The suspect is believed to be a foreign national, a source said. However, they added that it was “entirely possible” a terrorism motive would be ruled out.”
This is another example of the kind of mental gymnastics that must be performed to avoid writing the facts about a Muslim immigrant who stabbed to death Sir David Amess, a senior Member of Parliament.
peter says
This murderer should soon be dispatched along with his supporters to his heaven where he can meet his seventy virgins, as a jihadist . That is what he is striving for and he should be helped as much as possible!