The Islamic State game plan is to overwhelm intelligence and law enforcement agencies with so many jihad attacks and plots that they cannot keep up with them all, and collapse from exhaustion, as The Complete Infidel’s Guide to ISIS explains with reference to Islamic State internal documents. And in Britain, it looks as if the plan is working just fine.
“Revealed: Terror suspect, 25, who ‘killed Sir David Amess was flagged as extremism risk by teachers when he was still at school at least FIVE YEARS ago’ and was ‘radicalised by watching videos of hate preacher Anjem Choudary,’” by Jack Wright, Arthur Martin, Rebecca Camber, Neil Sears, Andy Dolan, and Martin Robinson, Daily Mail, October 18, 2021:
The suspect accused of stabbing to death Sir David Amess with 17 blows was forced to attend an official deradicalisation course after a teacher spotted his extremist views at least five years ago as it was also revealed that the suspected Islamist terrorist may have chosen his victim at random having become obsessed with killing any MP.
Ali Harbi Ali, 25, is being held by police on suspicion of murdering the veteran Conservative MP as he met with his Southend West constituents on Friday afternoon.
His friends have claimed he was further radicalised and turned into a lone-wolf killer during lockdown watching YouTube videos of convicted hate preacher Anjem Choudary with police and MI5 also looking whether Sir David was chosen due to his support for Qatar, which has been exerting its influence in Somalia, the country of his diplomat father’s birth.
Ali, the son of a former Sudanese diplomat who was born in Britain and raised in Croydon, was referred to the flagship anti-extremism scheme, Prevent, which aims to stop individuals becoming terrorists. But there are major questions after his behaviour was not considered to be extreme enough to alert MI5. These referrals are not currently mandatory.
He is alleged to have shown an interest in radical Islam and was referred to Prevent, believed to be when he was in his late teens. He decided to move in with an aunt and her sons in a council house in the upmarket North London enclave of Kentish Town, in a street of £2million three-storey townhouses.
His referral is understood to have coincided with a deterioration in his relationship with his Somali-born parents. Ali’s parents split up when he was young and his father returned to Somalia. One neighbour, who has known the family for twenty years, said that Ali spoke of hopes of becoming a doctor with the NHS, saying: ‘He told me he’d been doing exams and he seemed westernised.’
Police and intelligence officials are said to be mystified about why the 69-year-old Tory politician was singled out for attack by a suspected Islamist extremist. Reports had initially suggested that Sir David, a devout Roman Catholic and prominent Brexiteer who was MP for Southend West, had been selected because of his political views or religion.
Investigators now believe that there may have been no specific motive for the targeting of Sir David, and that the 69-year-old was stabbed to death because his alleged killer had plotted to kill any national politician – and had succeeded in booking a face-to-face meeting with him at a church in Leigh-on-Sea on Friday….
The British-born Muslim, who is of Somalian descent, had been referred to the Prevent programme over radicalisation fears by a concerned member of the community.
It is understood that the referral was not made by a member of the police or the security services.
It is not known whether it was a friend or relative, or someone from healthcare, education, social services or a religious group.
It resulted in Ali taking part in a course, which is believed to have been a ‘Channel’ mentoring scheme. Despite this intervention, which is thought to have taken place several years ago, MI5 was apparently not alerted and Ali was not investigated as a potential terror threat by police….
Sam Armstrong…said: ‘Questions must be asked about this case. Counter-extremism professionals seem to have lost sight of their duty which is to prevent terrorism.
‘There has been an under-referral of Islamist cases and an over-referral of extreme Right-wing cases and we are now seeing the deadly consequences. The Prevent review has been derailed by Left-wing groups trying to litigate every aspect of its work and yet a cold hard look at the number of cases in which Prevent has fallen short shows this is only the latest in a long line.’…
mortimer says
The Prevent protocols will only be effective if they teach young Muslims about the historical (or rather non-historical) bases of Islam. Archeology, textual criticism and historical anomalies all show that the Standard Islamic Narrative has little or no basis, but rather is contradicted by facts which prove it is an invented, concocted narrative. Only a thorough debunking of the Koran and foundational Islam can lead young jihadists out of this death cult.
PMK says
mortimer,
You’ll probably never convince people of faith that theirs is “an invented, concocted narrative”.
The same can be said of Judaism and Christianity. I’m reminded of a lyric in the musical “Jesus Christ Superstar”: “Israel in 4 bc had no mass communication”. There have been many books banned from the Christian Bible. We have had reformations and splits within the faith, with countless sects created. Everything is open to interpretation.
Anomalies can be just that: anomalies. That won’t convince a believer that his religion is false. Yours is a false hope. The only thing we can do, and it’s not pretty, is make their continued jihad cost them more than it is worth. That will take force and separation of Muslims from non-Muslims all over the world. If they want to wage jihad, ban them from your country. Exile them. Muslims can agree to live and let live or we in the West will have to agree to live and let die.
John says
There’s so damn many of them in Britain it’s impossible to investigate all of them. The same goes for all of Western Europe.
Michael Copeland says
“extremist views”……..
Here is the UK government’s definition of extremism, in their “Prevent” strategy:
Extremism is vocal or active opposition to fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs…
Islam is, indeed, vocally and actively opposed to all those matters listed. Opposition to them is basic Islamic doctrine. An internet search of muslim placards will confirm that within seconds.
from: https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/06/the-lamentable-shortcomings-of-some-english-judges-and-senior-lawyers/
somehistory says
Any number of people who comment here could have predicted that this was the case. How many have been identified as “radical” or a terror threat, and later on, turn out to be killing “without a motive, of course,” and then, during the “investigation,” it is revealed that he was raising red flags for years? No need for anyone to attempt a count. It is just about all of them.
And this: “official deradicalisation course after a teacher spotted his extremist views at least five years ago ”
“extreme” as opposed to what? The mozlum who keeps his mouth shut about his intentions.
These programs ***do not work.***** If the murdering mozlum was **truly** a “lone wolf” guy, which does not exist in the mozlum world, it might ‘work,’ if the guy wanted it to.
A person has to want to change their behavior…it can’t be forced upon them and mozlums don’t want to change this kind of thing.
Some people born into the mozlum “community” don’t want to be mozlums in the first instance, and many find a way to get out and actually remain alive to tell about it.
However, those who are *truly* mozlum, watch terror videos, listen with a lot of interest to their clerics of any stripe preach about hatred of the infidel, how much the killing of Jews and Christians will mean in the fake paradise of drunken orgy, will not be “de” …islamified which is what it would take. They can’t remain mozlum and not be taught that they should be murdering innocent people with whom they disagree.
The “world” won’t ever get this because too many mozlums and too many idiots of non-mozlum variety, keep spouting the “radical,” “lone wolf,’ “mentally ill,” garbage while the Truth gets covered over, sinking it deeper and deeper into the mire.
The devout mozlum must, at all costs, emulate the mass-murderer they all worship; they first copy his obsession with sex, lie as if there is no more tomorrow, so no consequences, consider they are better than anyone else, and worship fervently, their father, satan the devil. That demon encourages all of the murder, rape, lies and other filth, and he has his desire fulfilled by islam.
And that means death to many, many people who have not “wronged” any of the slime maggots that adhere to the evil of that filthy book made up by a raper of children and one who takes his relatives’ wife because he pretended his “god” told him to. Actually, satan might have been encouraging that as he did the other evil filth.
savvyone says
+1
Hank says
Replacing Judeo-Christian culture, tradition and values with false teachers of lies and deceit like Anjem Choudary are a peril for non-Muslim host nations. His preaching of Islam hatched another Muslim viper leading to this murder. Anjem Choudary should be in jail for life, his hate Mosque dismantled and people who believe his nonsense deported.
“They rely on empty arguments, they utter lies; they conceive trouble and give birth to evil.
They hatch the eggs of vipers and spin a spider’s web.
Whoever eats their eggs will die, and when one is broken, an adder is hatched” (Is. 59:4-5)
E T says
Interesting article “Two-Camels Amess by Richard North
gravenimage says
E T, this article gives the impression that this Jihadist murdered Amess because he didn’t make Somalia as wealthy as oil-rich Qatar–and that Amess deserved it. Have to say I find this iffy at best.
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim who murdered MP had attended official ‘deradicalization’ program
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Who can be surprised by this stupidity?