Putin is being pragmatic. He doesn’t want to have to deal with jihad attacks from people who are outraged over insults to Muhammad. And of course, he was never a fan of the freedom of speech anyway. Most of the world today agrees with him, except for those who still understand the importance of the freedom of expression for any free society.
“Putin: Insulting Prophet Muhammad is not freedom of expression,” TRT World, December 24, 2021:
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said insulting Prophet Muhammad does not count as freedom of expression.
Insults to the prophet are a “violation of religious freedom and the violation of the sacred feelings of people who profess Islam,”, [sic] Putin said…
Putin said these acts give rise to extremist reprisals, citing as an example the attack on the editorial office of Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris after its publication of cartoons of the prophet.
While praising artistic freedom in general, Putin said it has its limits and it should not infringe on other freedoms.
Russia has evolved as a multi-ethnic and multi-confessional state, so Russians, he said, are used to respecting each other’s traditions.
In some other countries, this respect comes in short supply, Putin said.
gravenimage says
Putin: Insults to Muhammad ‘violation of religious freedom and of the sacred feelings of people who profess Islam’
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More appalling pandering to Islam from Putin.
Note that he doesn’t say why anyone should be prevented from daring to say anything critical about a caravan-raider, pedophile, slaver, rapist, and mass murderer.
And doesn’t this fool realize that someone being Russians being Russian Orthodox or Atheist are also considered a “violation of religious freedom and of the sacred feelings of people who profess Islam”? Because this is what Islam teaches.
Infidel says
Precisely! He thinks that islam is whatever his pals in Grozny, Ankara and Teheran tell him it is
Chessss says
So Putin IS a coward .
Melc says
The problem is not Putin. The problem is Islam. It calls on jihad for a global Umma or caliphate and with the Saudi Salafist oil wealth fund to finance it, it is plainly Islam that is the problem.
gravenimage says
Melc, a big part of the problem is Infidel leaders kowtowing to Islam, and enforcing its tenets of “blasphemy” on other non-Muslims. Muslims themselves don’t have this kind of power in Russia–not yet, certainly.
Naildriver says
‘Sacred feelings’? That’s rich.
An I’ve often heard Muslims compare their hurt feelings to ‘terrorism’– and compare their terrorism to ‘something happened’ or ‘some people did something’.
The problem with Putin’s generosity to Islam is his probable ungenerous intentions in asking others to put up with his own acts of tyranny and murder.
somehistory says
“sacred feelings”? This is pure balderdash. the real meaning of “sacred” is deserving of veneration, great respect.
The “feelings” of those who are professing islam….the commands of a maggot said to have been a thief, mass-murdering, raper of children, sex-slave trading monster, son of satan the devil…are not ‘sacred” by any stretch.
and how about if the some of those who “profess islam” are insulting Christians, Jews, or others by their very claim that their fake ‘prophet’ is worthy of veneration and demanding respect for this foul maggot,
evil sack of dung?
It is more often the case that those who “profess islam” are insulting everyone else. However many times a day they bang their empty heads on their dirty carpet, they are calling for the killing, mass murder, of Christians and Jews…every day, over and over and many more times on Friday when they all get together at their barracks for special times of calling down harm on Christians and Jews and vowing what they are going to do to people of these two groups.
As long as I have breath, I will do what I can to expose the putrid, fetid, feculent, demonic essence of islam and the foul maggot creature said to be its ‘prophet,’ and the snake that is islam’s ‘god,’ satan the devil. when mozlums imitate this slime son of satan, they deserve nothing less than to be exposed for the children of satan, and none deserve any respect, much less a view that their “feelings” are sacred.
May as well say it here, putin has also made himself a son of that demon snake.
DavidR says
Muhammad doesn’t have feelings anymore. He is beyond protection. People’s opinions of him carry no weight. He’s not resting, stunned or pining for the fjords. He’ stone dead. Maybe you could throw a stone or two at his grave since it was the also the house he shared with his underage wife.
gravenimage says
True enough. Plenty of his savage followers have feelings, though–and will murder you if you violate those feelings. Hence Putin’s kowtowing…
mortimer says
I agree with Robert Spencer’s opinion that Putin is being pragmatic. There are as many as 16 million Muslims in Russia (about 11% of the population) if all Muslim descendants are counted. That’s a lot of potential jihadists if they choose to get mad about Mohammed comments.
Since Russia is more or less a dictatorship, Putin could fund organizations that debunk Islam and internet programs to help Muslims leave Islam. Today, most Muslims are not angered if they have to debate the non-historical foundations of Islam. They are, however, horrified to learn that Islam has no historical basis … the place, the book and the man of Islam are all invented long following his supposed death. When Muslims learn this, they leave Islam right away.
jewdog says
I can understand Putin’s view. He doesn’t tolerate criticism about himself, so it’s quite logical that he would be sympathetic to Islamic blasphemy laws.
Boycott Turkey says
Sounds like his in favour of blasphemy laws his just a other usless world leader just like the rest of them
Fitna says
Putin has no problem jailing dissidents, freedom-fighters, journalists and his political rivals who want more freedom. No wonder he sympathizes with fellow fascists of the Islam stripe, or that he’s actually afraid of his dangerous Muslim minority.
Either way he’s unfit to lead, like nearly all western leaders today. If you start “respecting Islam” then Muslims will make you bow even further. Sharia is sacred to them, so is Jihad, is he going to respect that too?
A good leader would be telling Muslims to assimilate or face expulsion or worse. Notice how Muslims are all the same in every country? So much for that “we’re not a monolith” bullcrap.
Fitna says
*minority population
Doomer says
Very sad, the more you give in to Muslim bullies, the more brazen they become. The more lies pile up,Muslims and Leftists yelling
“You guys are fascists, you are nazis”. Here is one that 99% believe, due to ignorance:
a) The lie that the NAZIS were Not Socialists, that they were a very different category,the FASCISTS.
b) True they were totalitarian, anti-human rights, if that is your definition of fascist, but so were the socialists of the Soviet Union.
c) The Nazis killed around 30 MILLION: 24 million of the Soviet Union,plus mostly 6 million Poles and Jews.
What is a socialist? It is he who believes in State Control of the Economy ( and where there can be Private Property or Not).
GLENN BECK ,in his book “Arguing with Socialists”(2020) ( pages 150-151 ),refers to a 2005 article by Libertarian George Reisman,Phd in economics, of the Libertarian Mises Institute.
Mises,Hayek,Karl Popper and Rothbard are the four top gods of 20th century Classical Liberalism/Libertarianism.
a) Ok,Reisman says yes,on PAPER, in Nazi Germany there was Private(not State) Ownership of the Means of Production.
b) But it was in name,in reality, the nazi government decided all of the following:
1. What was manufactured in companies
2. How much.
3. By what methods.
4. By who.
5. At what price.
6. The salaries to be paid.
More socialist impossible.
Also, after Mein Kampf ( 1925) Hitler wrote a SECOND book, not published but we have the book, in 1928. Hitler came to power in 1933.
Ok, now in his sequel,called “The Second Book”(1928), Hitler says: ” I am a SOCIALIST” ( page 50 ).
The Left lies and lies, Vox,maybe the most popular Leftist magazine, even wrote an article “Hitler was Not a Socialist”(2019)
To continue,Glenn Beck points out that in Mein Kampf, and remember Nazi is short for
“National SOCIALIST German Worker’s Party”,
Hitler explains the Meaning of the Colors and symbols of the Nazi FLAG:
it was a white circle with a swastika, which represented the ARYANS,
and the rest was RED,” in red we see the Social Idea of the Movement”.
Doomer says
Glenn Beck in his book affirms socialisms never works,he is wrong,there are exceptions. He points out to the case of the PILGRIMS.
They were 100 people and for TWO YEARS (1620-1622), in a written agreement on how to run the colony,
they lived according to Collectivist-Socialist Principles: there was No Private Property, all would Share
Land, share Clothes,share Food. It failed.
Ok,but we have 2 cases,maybe 3 where on a Large Scale, the essence of socialism ( state control of the economy) and even more ( collectivism ) succeeded:
1. In the INCA empire (1438-1533), 95 years. Where the state ( emperor and ruling elite, the Incas, 1% or even less, 0.5%, of the population)
dictated the economy: no money ( all commerce was by barter), no private property for the the masses. Land was divided into land of the community (collectivism), of the state religion, of the state .
However, all, even the poorest were guaranteed social welfare ( food and housing for life, retirement at 60 ( no need to work, fed and housed by the state).
2. The Jesuit Missions in BRAZIL ( among the Tupi indians) and in the Spanish Empire (South America,among the Guarani indians). At its height it had about 200,000 people, in DOZENS of missions.
The Jesuits read and implemented the ideas of Thomas More’s book “Utopia”(1516). The missions in both regions lasted around 150 years,they were eliminated by the government.
a) They were an ECONOMIC success, no doubt about it, the Jesuits really knew how to manage the economic factors ( no free market here,but state control ).
b) They used barter, no money used.
c) Following More: work was for 5 DAYS , 6 hrs each day ( not 8 hrs),from 9 am to noon, then 2 hrs of rest and lunch, then from 2pm to 5pm. They also never tried to impose Spanish or Portuguese on the natives, instead they learned Tupi or Guarani.
d) They had schools were the children learned to read and write in the native language,
later,depending on the needs of the mission ( and on what was needed in the other missions, they had training workshops, where some Indians became musicians, others carpenters, others blacksmiths, others potters,etc) ( Again, state control)
e) There was no private property except your clothes: even food was communal, it was collectivism. The land was that of all. Retirement at 60, free food and housing for life.
f) Following More: No Capital Punishment. For the worst crimes, it was public flogging.
g) To my surprise,they had ELECTIONS every January 1st for the Town Hall (cabildo). Each mission had 2 priests ( who also had no private property except their clothes and books).
In the elections, they would elect many officials,all Indian and by Indians of the mission: mayor (alcalde), corregidor ( intendant,supervisor),
4 regidores (inspectors: of for example, state of schools, children’s education, private and public sanitation ),
an alguacil mayor, an alférez real,
a scribe or chronicler ,a mayordomo ( in charge of the accountants, warehouse officials, and fiscal officials ).
Now we know the 21 CALIFORNIA missions,run by the FRANSISCANS were an economic success, and were run a similar way,but I don’t to what extent they were a copy of the Jesuit model.
gravenimage says
Doomer, it is true that whatever economic freedom existed in Nazi Germany was purely at the pleasure of the state. Not only did the state exert these controls but they often seized businesses and imprisoned or murdered business owners if they had the ‘wrong’ politics.
JPS says
Islam is the only cult that takes advantage of the space and respect which “Freedom of Religion” gives to practice Islam in the manner Allah revealed & Muhammad practiced, namely:
▪ practice hate speech on kuffar (Q9:79; Q5:41, Q5:60, Q7:176, Q7:166),
▪ kill kuffar because they do not accept Islam (Q9:73, Q8:39, Q9:5, Q47:4, Q9:29),
▪ religious based apartheid (Q60:1, Q4:139, Q32:18, Q5:51),
▪ kill for blasphemy (Q33:57-58)
▪ allow multiple wives AND sex with women slaves (Q4:3, Q4:24, Q70:29-31),
▪ beat wives for mere “fear disloyalty/ arrogance” (Q4:34),
▪ kill homosexuals (Sunan Ibn Majah: Book 20, Hadith 2659),
▪ sex with little girls (Q65:4, Sahih Bukhari 5134)
▪ force women to cover themselves (Q24:31, Q33:59)
▪ allow slavery (Q16:71, Q33:26, Sahih Bukhari 2415)
▪ permit muta-pleasure sex (Q4:24) and prostitution (Q24:33) while punishing zina-adultery (Q24:2, Sahih al-Bukhari 6829, Sunan Abi Dawud 4442/ Grade Sahih by Al-Albani)
… among other things
For many, including Putin, this appears to be completely acceptable!
Ewanda says
YAYYYYYY …. someone else recognizes that Islam is a cult. Therefore President Vladimir Putin should not be so sensitive to offending those that practice it, especially when if given the opportunity they would gladly assassinate him to get to their make-believe paradise. Every time he makes the sign of the Cross he puts a target on himself.
gravenimage says
Imoportant list, JPS.
None of this savagery is legal in the civilized countries because Islam is a religion, though. And it is that, by all definitions. A cult is just a small religion–and sadly Islam is anything but small.
Ewanda says
Islam is NOT a religion – it is an entire SYSTEM according to one who knows – namely Sam Solomon. Neither a cult nor a religion is defined by the size of its membership. A cult is defined by its bizarre beliefs that go against all things that make human beings’ brains thrive and grow rich which doesn’t happen on the dark self-absorbed side.
gravenimage says
Ewanda, Islam is a religion by all definitions. That it may also in the case of Islam be an entire system does not mean it is not a religion.
One problem is that so many people believe that religions are intrinsically benignant–but this is not the case. There have certainly been evil religions before, like the religion of Ba’al and of the Aztecs, which both involved human sacrifice.
Then, one definition of “Cult” is indeed a small religion.
The use of “Cult” to describe a creed with bizarre beliefs only dates to the 1970s, where so many odd cults popped up liek the Moonies and Hari Krishna.
Really, we don’t have to change the definitions of our words for Islam.
JPS says
You are right Ewanda…. Generally people do not realize that Islam is not just religion (e.g. which direction to pray/ how many times to pray) but it also teaches:
• POLITICS (e.g. apostasy equals treason, do not have treaties with kuffar nations, etc),
• MORALITY (e.g. Jihad against kuffar guarantees a place in heaven),
• JUSTICE (e.g. woman’s evidence is half that of a man’s),
• SOCIAL BEHAVIOUR (e.g. hate kuffar and kill them if possible, women are no more than cattle),
• BUSINESS (e.g. not to charge interest),
• MEDICINE (e.g. camel urine is good for health, one wing of the fly carries disease and the other the cure, etc),
• ASTRONOMY (e.g. there are two east and two west, there are 7 heavens, shooting stars are missiles),
• PERSONAL HYGIENE (e.g. clean with odd number of stones after defecation, cut pubic hair),
• CIVIL LAW (e.g. a woman’s inheritence is half that of a man’s, etc.)
Its a one stop shop for everything that a cult believer needs to know… There are many who don’t know this and there are others who know but refuse to accept it and insist that it is religion for that is how it was commonly understood for many centuries.
JPS says
gravenimage, when civilized nations accept Islam as a religion then they are accepting the savagery that is taught in Islam. It is basic moral values and not the size of the religion/ cult which should define what is or is not acceptable in civilized nations.
gravenimage says
With all respect, JPS, you are mistaken. Islam has been recognized as a religion for centuries, but this never stopped good people from either criticizing Islam nor defending against it. Even a cursory study of history shows this to be the case.
Acknowledging that Islam is a religion–which it is by all definitiions–does *not* mean regarding it as either true or moral.
And a religion is only protected under the First Amendment to the extent that it doesn’t violate our civilized laws. You can worship satan or the ‘volcano god’., but if you want to sacrifice babies or toss maidens into a caldera, this not legal.
JPS says
A cult is not a small religion but is often understood as a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object.
A common mistake people make is to think that cults are purely religious groups. A secular definition of cult would refer to all groups that use mind control and devious recruiting techniques. In a free society people believe what they want, but most people would agree that it is wrong for any one to try to trick and control people using deception.
The key features of any cult are:
○ DECEPTION: Cult members will generally hide their true thoughts and feelings, and instead wear a mask which presents them as a perfect cult member. Cult members not only seek to deceive outsiders, but also to deceive their fellow cult members. Rarely close friendships form in cults. Nothing is allowed that can be more powerful than the cult members’ allegiance to the group and it’s leaders.
Everyone is encouraged to watch out for “struggling” brothers and sisters and report what they see to the leadership. This leaves members open to fear and intimidation in order to bring them in line to cult beliefs.
○ EXCLUSIVITY: It is not just that the belief system matters but also membership to the organization.
○ FEAR & INTIMIDATION: Disagreement with leadership is considered equivalent to disagreeing with God. Cults use Guilt, Character Assassination and Breaking Sessions to bring this about.
○ INFORMATION CONTROL: Cult control information and any information from outside the cult is considered evil, especially if it is opposing the cult. Members are told not to read it or believe it. Only information supplied by the cult is true.
○ LOVE BOMBING & RELATIONSHIP CONTROL:
• When you first go to a cult they will practice “love bombing”, where they arrange instant friends for you. It will seem wonderful, how could such a loving group be wrong! But you soon learn that if you ever disagree with them, or ever leave the cult then you will lose all your new “friends”.
• Cults also try to cut you off from your friends and family because they hate others being able to influence you. A mind control cult will seek to manoeuvre your life so as to maximize your contact with cult members and minimize your contact with people outside the group, especially those who oppose your involvement.
○ TIME CONTROL: Cults keep their members so busy with meetings and activities that they become too busy and too tired to think about their involvement. Time control also helps the cult keep their members immersed in the manufactured cult environment.
JPS says
You are entitled to your wrong understanding of both cults and Islam. That it is a religion is not a function of time… Just because for many centuries people considered the earth to be flat did not and does not make it true/ or a fact. Same is true for Islam.
Sure Islam may be protected by First Amendment but that is only because people are not fully aware of what is Islam and what it demands from not only from its Ummah but also from Kafirs… This lack of awareness needs to be corrected and once the evil facts of Islam are out there is no way that anyone with a modicum of intelligence and rationality will be able to claim that Islam is protected by First Amendment.
Hank says
He needs help from the Muslim 5th column that Leftist-Green Marxists created out of nowhere in Western nations. He is pragmatic especially after the Russian experience of being booted out of Afghanistan and Chechnya.
a “violation of religious freedom and the violation of the sacred feelings of people who profess Islam,”
It would be a good idea for Putin to buy RS books and look into what the Quran and followers are professing. Plus meditate on the source and lands of his Russian Orthodox culture that was ransacked by Islam (Byzantine)
David Foot says
Putin speaks for the “other” tyranny attacking our world, the Marxists.
Both Islam and Marxism have world domination written in to their constitutions.
According to the Marxist Manifesto they should support anything which tries to overthrow the undesired state (free world of Western Europe and Anglosphere) so Putin contributes his potion of hate and poison towards the West
However few countries have shown the world how Marxism can instil terror even in Islam as China is doing today. In the same way the Marxist Russians did in any of their Islamic Republics which dared to rebel such as Chechnya.
Russia has also banned Moslem authors and when necessary has raised their towns to the ground.
Neither Putin nor Russia are moderate in any way towards any ideology which advocates undermining their State and have never been tolerant but have dished out brutality in a way the West sadly is not prepared to do but needs to do.
Infidel says
He is not a Marxist, though, or else, he’d have joined the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and been its leader. Instead, the CPRF has been nowhere near the corridors of power ever since he emerged
That said, on the foreign policy front, it’s hard to see how their foreign policy would have been any different from his
PaulH says
He seems to have come around 180 degrees from 2013 when in an address to the Duma he proclaimed that “Any minority from anywhere” that wanted to live in Russia “should speak Russian and respect the Russia laws. If they prefer sharia law, then we advise them to go to those places where that’s the state law.”
gravenimage says
Putin has been appeasing Islam more and more of late.
CogitoErgoSum says
I see that the population growth for Russia in 2020 was -.2%. So what’s up with that?