I got this email this morning from the notorious jihad leader Anjem Choudary, and since I know how “journalists” lie, especially the hopeless Daily Mail, I’m allowing him to correct the record here. You can judge for yourself about the ingenuousness or lack thereof of his explanations.
1. Anjem Choudary to Robert Spencer
Robert,
I just saw your ‘article’ https://www.jihadwatch.org/2023/01/uk-muslim-cleric-responds-to-prince-harry-claiming-he-killed-jihadis-by-calling-on-muslims-to-kill-british-troops with you copying and pasting what the well-known liar Abul Taher printed in the Mail on Sunday.
I think you’ll find this is closer to the truth Robert:
https://twitter.com/davidvidecette/status/1612187585144569856?s=48&t=SGootvb4irHsryPQsZ-DyQ
But then again, verifying the truth has always been a problem for Christians hasn’t it?
Look forward to you discovering that the arch enemy of Essa (as) Saul/Paul also fabricated the real message of Jesus/Essa.
Perhaps you will also have the decency to print the truth that I did not actually call for anyone to be targeted (I’m sure you received by rebuttal, although I re-paste it below for ease of reference).
Anjem
Today’s Mail on Sunday contains an article by Abul Taher, their security correspondent, claiming that my latest press release on Prince Harry’s comments in his book ‘Spare’ relating to his time in Afghanistan, amount to a call to target British soldiers around the world and the Royal family. As usual this is in the fabricated and wild imagination of Abul Taher and the Mail on Sunday, spread no doubt in order to gain circulation. My actual quote from my press release is:
“The latest honest outpouring from Harry should serve not just as evidence of the motives and objectives behind the British occupation of Afghanistan but also as a wake up call for Muslims and non-Muslims to do all they can to end the occupation of foreign forces from all Muslim countries, including Syria, Iraq and those in North Africa where many British soldiers are deployed.”
The Irony is that despite every news commentator, former soldier or MP stating that the risk to Harry and former soldiers in Afghanistan has increased since his statement, when a Muslim makes similar observations and calls for British troops to return home and to stop occupying Muslim land, this is perceived to be a rallying call for war!
Comments by Iain Duncan-Smith for me to be locked up, Khalid Mahmood that I’m putting lives at risk and calling for people’s heads, Dr Alan Mendoza that my comments have led to terrible crimes and Tobias Ellwood that I’m stirring up hatred expose the lack of integrity prevalent amongst MPs and commentators nowadays who will all too readily believe the hype in newspapers from untrustworthy and unverified sources and jump onto the bandwagon to demonise and call for the arrest of Muslims rather than look at our views objectively and expose the real injustices and oppression which have been and are being perpetrated by the British regime and its army in Muslim countries.
If honest journalists or commentators wish to print the truth then, as always, I’m available for interview.
2. Robert Spencer to Anjem Choudary
Thanks, Anjem, I can’t see the Telegraph article, as I’m not a subscriber and don’t plan to become one. For whatever reason, either because you’re a jihad terrorist or because I’m an undesirable in the UK (and the US) as a foe of jihad terror, your messages go to spam, and when I moved this one to the Inbox, it was blank in my ordinary Mail program and thus impossible to see. I could only see it when I opened another Mail program. This may be malicious as I noted, or it may simply be a function of your email list being loaded with dead addresses and in dire need of cleaning, which is why I mention it to you at all.
Anyway, thanks for your statement, which I will certainly publish, since as you know, truth has always been my sole objective. I do have a follow-up question for you, however: how exactly do you envision Muslims and non-Muslims working to end the “occupation” of foreign forces from all Muslim countries (an objective with which I agree, albeit I expect we disagree on how it should be done)? Are you explicitly stating now that you envision this being done entirely by nonviolent means? I’ll await your on-the-record response.
Meanwhile, it is preposterous to think that Paul fabricated the message of Jesus as found in the Gospels, as even the most cursory reading of his Epistles demonstrates that all those around him, even those whom he opposed in various disputes, shared the understanding of that message as he articulates it. As you look forward to me making the spurious discovery of a falsehood, I look forward in turn to your discovery of the truth that Muhammad did not exist, and that the voluminous hadith material about him is a ninth-century fabrication. Bukhari found 600,000 ahadith and judged 593,000 to be forgeries; he was right about those, but the other 7,000 were forgeries as well.
Kindest regards
Robert
3. Anjem Choudary to Robert Spencer
Hi Robert,
I appreciate you saying you will correct the errors being made in the media. Thank you.
As far as foreign forces are concerned in Muslim lands, I think for them to just be withdrawn by the likes of the US and British, especially with the heightened security risk would be ideal. As with Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria, they will eventually leave anyway but then only after more blood and mayhem.
Maybe this extract from a latter press comment is also useful in this regard, on my latest blog:
https://theanjemc.wordpress.com/2023/01/09/press-comment/
I believe that now is the ideal time for the Prime Minister Rishi Sunak to call for the withdrawal of all British soldiers from Muslim countries. As many security and military experts have concurred, the presence of British troops in Muslim countries will now be a cause of heightened insecurity and instability and an increased risk to their safety in light of Harry’s provocative and hurtful statements.
You may also wish to listen to an honest and fair interview I did yesterday on the Richie Allen show as well for more views regarding Prince Harry:
From 27 mins in to about 51 mins.
As for your comments about Muhammad (saw) existing and Bukhari, all I can say Robert is that sanity is a great blessing from Allah. Next you’ll be asking for proof that the sun exists.
Anjem
4. Robert Spencer to Anjem Choudary
Thanks, Anjem. I’ll set up a post with all this in it to run this afternoon at Jihad Watch.
Meanwhile, re Muhammad’s existence, I admire your rhetorical flourish (“next you’ll be asking for proof that the sun exists”), but ultimately it’s an empty statement. If you ever get around even to attempting to refute the evidence I present in my book “Did Muhammad Exist?,” do let me know.
Cordially
Robert
Ade Fegan says
Why dignify it with a response ?
Robert Spencer says
Accuracy.
gravenimage says
+1
Hoi Polloi says
Agreed.
Fitna says
I’d suggest a video interview of at least 30 mins to an hour with Anjem, Robert…I think a lot can be learned, and it’s faster than email.
It might bring in tons of new followers to you.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Well, muslims don’t like sun worshipers either, notwithstanding Anjem mian’s wisecrack about the sun existing
John ..Smith says
Anjem Choudary
I’m not a scholar like Mr Spencer so I couldn’t say with any certainty whether Muhammad existed or not.
What is important to me are his messages he supposedly received from allah. In my heart I know I will never get through to you, but at least I’ll give it a try.
Anjem, as a practicing Christian I feel compelled to tell you and try to warn you of the dire consequences you could be facing following islam.
allah is not the loving God you believe he is, he is actually satan, “the greatest of all deceivers.” I know your going to just laugh at what I’m saying, but please try taking me seriously. Please go to Youtube and listen to what ex-Muslims have to say about this. I suggest you listen to Christian Prince, Walid Shoebat and Apostate Prophet, but there are many, many more ex-Muslims out there, and they have all come to the same conclusion. As a Christian I’m telling you this, it’s for your own salvation.
Take care Anjem
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Actually, allah being the greatest of all deceivers is there in the hadiths, so Anjem has to believe it, if he is a genuine muslim at all. Except that he believes that allah is deceiving the kafirs rather than the muslims. Imagine his surprise when he discovers that muslims are the one that ‘allah’ has been deceiving 😈
John ..Smith says
Correct Infidel
John ..Smith says
Anjem,
Arabic is the first language for both Christian Prince, and Walid Shoebat and they translate islamic scripture in a correct manner without trying to gloss over its evil content.
e.g. allah is the greatest deceiver, and not the greatest planner as some translators have suggested.
I know your going to dismiss everything I have to say, as I believe you are to far down the road of no return, But at least I’ve tried.
gravenimage says
John–with the greatest respect–I don’t think that most Muslims consider Allah to be a loving god, especially not a Jihadist like Choudary. They know that he is a brutal figure, but like it that way.
John ..Smith says
Thank you Gravenimage I stand corrected.
gravenimage says
UK jihad leader Anjem Choudary denies media reports that he called for violence against British troops
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Doesn’t this Jihadist thug have numerous links to Jihad terror attacks? In his case, preaching Jihad has actually been the least of it.
Robert Spencer is a gentleman, as always.
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I think you’ll find this is closer to the truth Robert:
https://twitter.com/davidvidecette/status/1612187585144569856?s=48&t=SGootvb4irHsryPQsZ-DyQ
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Really, all this Tweet says is that Choudary probably will not be arrested, and that as he is technically British that he cannot be deported. Hardly a ringing endorsement of his well wishes to Infidel troops…
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But then again, verifying the truth has always been a problem for Christians hasn’t it?
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Another claim that Jesus (“Isa” or “Essa”) is actually Muslim (and, unspoken here, that his role in the last days is to slaughter Christians).
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“The latest honest outpouring from Harry should serve not just as evidence of the motives and objectives behind the British occupation of Afghanistan but also as a wake up call for Muslims and non-Muslims to do all they can to end the occupation of foreign forces from all Muslim countries, including Syria, Iraq and those in North Africa where many British soldiers are deployed.”
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Well, since Muslims “doing all they can” here seems an obvious reference to killing Infidels, I rather think he protests too much…
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The Irony is that despite every news commentator, former soldier or MP stating that the risk to Harry and former soldiers in Afghanistan has increased since his statement, when a Muslim makes similar observations and calls for British troops to return home and to stop occupying Muslim land, this is perceived to be a rallying call for war!
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I am no fan of Harry and his witless wife, but I’m sure that the risk to them *has* gone up, since so many Muslims all over the world actually support Jihadist thugs like the Taliban. There is nothing ironic about this. And there are no Britons in Afghanistan, but that doesn’t mean the Jihad has ended, quite obviously.
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Anyway, thanks for your statement, which I will certainly publish, since as you know, truth has always been my sole objective. I do have a follow-up question for you, however: how exactly do you envision Muslims and non-Muslims working to end the “occupation” of foreign forces from all Muslim countries (an objective with which I agree, albeit I expect we disagree on how it should be done)? Are you explicitly stating now that you envision this being done entirely by nonviolent means? I’ll await your on-the-record response.
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Damn good question from Robert Spencer.
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As far as foreign forces are concerned in Muslim lands, I think for them to just be withdrawn by the likes of the US and British, especially with the heightened security risk would be ideal.
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There is only a “heightened security risk” because of Jihad terrorists.
It can’t have been easy for Robert Spencer to have found a message from this vicious Jihadist in his email, but he handled it with aplomb.
Aum says
Anjem is a Nobody.
Loud mouth – I ignore with his biased and violent views.
Jayell1 says
Anjem Choudhary: ‘But then again, verifying the truth has always been a problem for Christians hasn’t it?’
Coming from a devotee of a ‘faith’ that officially promotes at least six methods of deliberately lying, this has to be a joke. Or was this specimen simply saying that ‘verifying’ the truth is a problem for any decent human beings when it comes to having dealings with amoral islamic flotsam such as Choudhary? That would indeed be true. I’m also not particularly impressed with Choudhary’s apparent insolence when he addresses Dr. Spencer on first-name terms. As someone who has long been subsidised by UK taxpayers such as myself, I should have thought Choudhary has had long enough in the British isles to understand that it’s isn’t good form in the UK to presume the sort of close relationship that allows one to use first names unless such a relationship is mutually recognised on both sides. But then cfommon civility and good manners never seemed to have featured amongst Choudhary’s strong points, whatever they are.
John ..Smith says
Anjem Choudry
I know you would slit my throat at the first opportunity if you believed you could get away with it, I know this one hundred percent as this is what radical muslims do.
But Anjem, I am a Christian and I would never think of doing anything like this to you or to any other Muslim, as my religion instructs me to love you
Just think about it Anjem, does the creator of the universe really need muslims to do his dirty work for him, does he really need muslims to kill those that oppose him, It just doesn’t make any sense.
I’m telling you this to try to save your soul, but nobody but yourself can do that, it’s entirely up to you..
Islam is satans religion Anjem, and as a Christian I’ve done my best to warn you.
God bless you and please come to the light.
John ..Smith says
P.S. Anjem I know how important hate is in your world, But in my world (which I hope one day you come to) hate doesn’t even exist. I can honestly hold my head up high and say I have never felt hatred in my life, I don’t even know what its like to hate, its just a meaningless word to me.
Hoi Polloi says
The sun exists? I thought it was drowning in a mud puddle. Silly me, an uneducated and lying Christian who only bothered to study science and not practice taqiyah. And nothing like leading with your blasphemous teachings and vile hatred of the infidel, Annie, when you so want us to see you as peace-loving.
At least we agree here: “end the occupation of foreign forces” in so much of the West, which you so passionately hate and despise, by heading to the islamic world, Annie Child.
bill carr says
Dishonesty as Mr Choudary knows well is enshrined in Islamic doctine in the practice of Taqqiyah. Not sure spelling is correct. I am by no means an expert on the bible which I do not regard as historical facts, but I do not think it contains any advice that lying is a good policy. As for the veracity of Mr Choudary’s comment. I am sure he knows well the terms of his release which would be violated by any such statements and could land him back in jail..