Those who said after the October 7 attacks that the international political and media focus will be on Israel’s response rather than on of the atrocities themselves hit the nail on the head. Joe Rogan is receiving mostly favorable publicity for accusing Israel of genocide after seeing a video of a drone attack on four people in Gaza. He made the comments between tokes on a marijuana cigarette during his The Joe Rogan Experience podcast.
Joe “nice leg-kick” Rogan is not a serious person. In the past, Genocide Joe has supported Ron “American deserved 911” Paul, and Bernie ”the Communist” Sanders.
In previous podcasts, Joe “Ohhhhh!” Rogan has reared back in his chair, screwed up his face and said that the subject of Israel is “nuts.” That is because he doesn’t know anything about the topic, and doesn’t want to learn. The psychedelic Joe Rogan has never had any member of the counter-jihad movement on his show. He hasn’t spoken with Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Steve Emerson, Daniel Pipes, etc. And he is not going to. In fact, he will have 9/11 Truther and Israel hater Abby Martin on repeatedly before he will ever put any defender of Israel on to talk about October 7 and Hamas.
Joe Rogan’s friend Alex Jones also believes that the drone video showing four people killed in Gaza is proof that Israel is not just guilty of genocide, but of mass genocide. Jones has made a career out of sensationalizing tragedy. Whether it was the claim that Jews were behind the 9/11 attacks, or that there were multiple gunmen involved in the Las Vegas shooting, or his notorious claims about the Sandy Hook school shooting, Jones will use other people’s misfortune to promote himself and his supplements, which as far as I know, only comedian John Oliver has purchased.
There are other names that could be added to the list of Hamas-influenced influencers, including Candace Owens, Mark Dice, and a host of others, some of whom even go so far as to praise Osama bin Laden and even Adolf Hitler.
Those of us who are made of sterner stuff know that Israel is not just fighting for itself, but for the rest of the free world as well. Israel should take as much time as its economy can bear and destroy Hamas. Meanwhile, here in the United States free people must begin to counter the influence of Hamasniks and their dupes.
Daniel Bielak says
It’s not mainly Hamas propaganda that has influenced Joe Rogan and other “influencers;” it’s the Western corporate mainstream news media and Western academia that have most influenced Joe Rogan and other “influencers,”
The following articles are about how the Western corporate mainstream news media ubiquitously libels Israel:
“Antisemitism is everywhere in the mass media – Sometimes it is relatively subtle…,” by Dr. Francisco Gil-White
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/subtle.htm
“Reply to Mearsheimer & Walt’s ‘The Israel Lobby’,” by Dr. Francisco Gil-White
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/mearsheimer_walt.htm
“Anti-Semitism 2.0,” by Mudar Zahran
https://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/si-info/pressreleases/anti-semitism-2-0-by-mudar-zahran-602612
Excerpt:
“The concept of the ‘evil Jew'” has made a well-disguised comeback: Criticizing Israel and Zionists, is now deemed a legitimate option to cursing Jews and Judaism. Not only is it open, socially acceptable and legal, but it can actually bring prosperity and popularity. This new form of anti-Semitism 2.0 is well-covered-up, harder to trace and poses a much deeper danger to the modern way of life of the civilized world than the earlier crude form of it, as it slowly and gradually works on delegitimizing Jews to the point where it eventually becomes acceptable to target Jews, first verbally, then physically — all done in a cosmopolitan style where the anti-Semites are well-groomed speakers and headline writers in jackets and ties; and not just Arab, but American and European, from “sanitized” news coverage of the most bloodthirsty radicals, to charges against Israel in which facts are distorted, selectively omitted or simply untrue, as in former President Jimmy Carter’s book on Israel.
“Why would a Palestinian be writing this? The answer is simple: The Palestinians have been used as fuel for the new form of anti-Semitism; this has hurt the Palestinians and exposed them to unprecedented and purposely media-ignored abuse by Arab governments, including some of those who claim love for the Palestinians, yet in fact only bear hatred to Jews. …“
Larry Estavan says
Thank you
Daniel Bielak says
You’re very welcome.
I hope that the articles that I listed may be helpful.
Daniel Bielak says
Thank you for defending Israel against libels.
Cynthia says
Comparing a targeted drone strike on terrorists to unspeakable atrocities!
He is unspeakably stupid like most of his listeners. I guess he’s all about the likes and the almighty dollar.
Stive says
Can’t leave out 3 others that unlike Rogan actually did much good for people thus more deadly as minds get stuck on the good not seeing the evil. These 3 I had once thought really good but it was already unraveling prior to Oct 7 attack. Because of total lies on steroids, I consider Mike Adams a Nazi. Another Nazi is Peggy hall and then Steve Quayle. Steve Quayle who I valued for years fell away bad. But he was already going looney with alien and mars stuff and copper bullets to kill demons. Like all these things, take truth and lie and mix and stretch.
On a side, I saw the vid of a drone kill 4 people walking in Gaza. It’s real. Hamas using small drones to kill their enemy arabs in Gaza daily. Hamas also killing mafia clan leaders in Gaza so Israel can’t implement each city ruled by clans that work with Israel
Larry Estavan says
That is very interesting. It never occured to me that Hamas is using armed drones, but they are.
“How Hamas flooded Israel, killed hundreds and took another 100 hostage: A revolution in drone warfare dating back to Ukraine” by BYMICHAEL J. ARMSTRONG AND THE CONVERSATION
October 9, 2023 – https://fortune.com/2023/10/09/israel-gaza-war-how-hamas-attacked-drone-warfare-ukraine/
“This seems to be the first conflict where Hamas has successfully used armed drones. Some are quadcopters that operators fly via remote control. They can precisely drop explosives onto small targets — like an Iron Dome system. Videos online show them attacking people, a watchtower and a tank.” see here – https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1710725094723469428
“Other Gazan drones resemble toy airplanes. They can fly considerable distances and then explode wherever they land.”
Here is nother video – https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/17lipoh/hamas_footage_shows_armed_drone_strike_on_a_large/
somehistory says
It is truly amazing….in a nauseating way….how very many people spout the word “genocide” without any idea, however small, of exactly what the word means.
Israel has not killed nearly as many “innocent” people as hamas has claimed and that inflated number having been repeated by those who want to make things seem worse than they are. And furthermore, only the members of hamas have been *deliberately killed.*
If a hundred thousand people who live in gaza were killed in the war, and Israel has kept doing what they have been doing…giving warning to move, giving warning to move, and taking in food and other supplies, and making gateways open for food and supplies to be carried in and halting their firepower for hostages to be exchanged for terror inmates, this would still not be a “genocide.”
Israel is not trying to wipe out a “nation,” nor are they trying to wipe out an “ethnic group.” Israel is trying to wipe out a ***terrorist**** group which attacked their nation with the intent, the goal, the stated goal, of wiping it out and killing all of the Jews.
There is a “genocide” intent and it has been around for about 14 centuries. mozlums have been trying to commit “genocide” against the Jews and against the Christians for all of that time. They were hindered for some short time, but now, they are empowered and emboldened and working desperately to get it accomplished.
One only has to look at Africa to see the genocide of Christians taking place at the hands of mozlums.. And one only has to read the “charter of hamas” to see the “deliberate” intent of the mozlums toward the Jews.
And fools such as rogan are helping the ghouls. Wasn’t there a movie, “Ship of Fools”? That *story* kind of fits today’s reality of all of the people jumping onboard to lie about Israel and support the ghouls of hamas.
If only fewer people spoke ‘without knowledge.’ It’s more difficult to hear when the mouth is wide open.
Ray Jarman says
+1
Somehistory, are correct in that Israel has not targeted civilians and if civilians (if there truly any) are killed, the onus is on Hamas. Also the movie, “Ship of Fools,” was a great movie that told how the Jews were not allowed by the US and had to turnaround and return. From 1936 to 1946, only 1000 Jews were permitted asylum in the US by FDR was reported by Bill Moyers. He went on to say these people were housed in an encampment in New York State and this from a very liberal correspondent. On a side note, the one nation in our hemisphere to allow the Jews openly was Haiti.
40 rounds says
I put Joe Rogan on the same level as Taylor Swift, AOC, and others who pretend to be informed but are really just self-absorbed charlatans who need constant attention and affirmation. Besides, regular marijuana users won’t admit it, but are destroying their brains.
Spiro says
Well said I wish I would have said it
Joes really not to Smart
somehistory says
And regarding the *real* genocide From the Washington Post
“Families are pleading for answers after mass kidnapping by extremists”
“GAMBORU NGALA, Nigeria — One month after suspected Islamist militants abducted more than 100 people in this remote area of northern Nigeria, their families are pressing local authorities for news of the missing — mostly girls and young women — and pleading with foreign governments for help with their rescue.
“In a dilapidated camp for displaced people, Alkhali Adam, the father of an 11-year-old boy who was kidnapped, said that families are passing sleepless nights and spending their days asking God to return those who were abducted, many of them while collecting firewood. He said government authorities have barred the families of those who were kidnapped from talking about what happened, saying that community leaders should speak for them.
“How can you keep quiet if your only son has been kidnapped?” Adam, 40, said in an interview. “I ask the international communities not to forget us … our state is doing nothing, and so their help is important.”
……”A journalist from The Washington Post was able to visit the camp for displaced people and interview some family members before a community leader insisted he go see Nigerian intelligence officials, who then told the journalist to leave. Further interviews were conducted by phone.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/families-are-pleading-for-answers-after-mass-kidnapping-by-extremists/ar-BB1kONde?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=ca100908836b46168e137e47ce8b05bd&ei=9
ME Infidel says
Rogan may have smoked too many joints to understand the enormous challenge Israel has to even exist (and exist successfully) among the Muslim nations in the Middle East.
I’d like to offer a little side note. In Rogan’s role as a commentator at UFC events, he’s certainly not going to say anything positive about Israel with so many Muslim fighters dominating the sport. It would be like Fox News criticizing Pfizer which spends $millions on advertising which pays the salaries of their talking bobble heads.
It’s unfortunate, but money talks and…you know the rest of the sentence.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Joe Rogan, Mark Dice, Candace Owens, maybe Scott Adams (who’s announced that he’s no longer supporting Israel), Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes, Maria Anastasia Loupis….
I’ve heavily narrowed down the number of people on the Right that I follow. I can buy one’s skepticism about Russia, since there are strong reasons to support it. That doesn’t spill over into opposition to Israel
brenrod says
I think there has been a large increase in donations to those names.
Kosh's Shadow says
To put it simply if Israel were committing “genocide”, there would be few “Palestinians” left, if any. That should be proof enough it is not Israel who wants to commit genocide.
And that should be obvious, even with the inflated Hamas casualty figures.
Anyone who thinks Israel is committing genocide must be considered a Jew-hater or an idiot, or both.
carpediadem says
Rogan is certainly wrong about the “genocide” claim and sadly has had rabidly antisemitic liar pretend journalist Abby Martin on his show who certainly has influenced him.
But Larry, the particular “nuts” excerpt you link to on Irseal is actually spot on, wherein he decries the Hamas marches and the rabid overwhelming antisemitism on display these days (although it’s always been there).
Then he veers off onto Bin Laden and the CIA…;)
Beto says
abby martin is worse than that. She’s pro putin, pro cuba, pro venezuela, pro china.
Larry Estavan says
“But Larry, the particular “nuts” excerpt you link to on Irseal is actually spot on,”
Thank you for this observation.
I linked to that to show that he KNOWS BETTER, but he went in on the “genocide” business anyway.
You probably know he has criticied Islam in the past but simply puts people like Abby Martin on the show again, and again which is probably a sop to his Muslim audience..
Sammy says
Have these people forgotten their own history? Don’t they know what war is like?
Remember what happened at Saipan in 1944!
Similar enemy, similar tactics used by that enemy, & you’ll notice the Marines didn’t worry about whether their approach was “proportionate.” They used flamethrowers to burn their enemies out of their holes in the ground. When the enemy made a banzai charge on July 7th, the Americans send thousands of them to the afterlife, where they would burn in hell for eternity.
See episode 5 of the excellent series “WWII in HD” which is narrated by Gary Sinise and Rob Lowe. The episode is called “Day of Days.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWII_in_HD
Btw the Americans took Saipan so they would have a base for their B29 Superfortress bombers, so they could attack Japanese cities. They went on to use napalm to firebomb Tokyo (and other Japanese cities) in the spring of 45.
abu taleb says
Probably he received some money from Qatar or other Islamic sources.
Beto says
I stopped listening to meathead rogan when he got on the anti vaxx bandwagon. I was supposed to listen to someone with zero medical training? Screw him. I got vaxx and survived a bout with it.
somehistory says
As for the “vaxx”….the clot shot….Many, many doctors with a lot of medical training warned against it. Can you prove that it is what helped you “survive” the “bout” you got anyway? So much for the jab keeping you from getting a “bout”…the way it was sold.
that issue is a far cry from the lies about Israel and the defense of hamas.
abu taleb says
No need to have medical training to have a conclusion after so many young healthy people suddenly dropped dead, increasing of excess death and heart injuries like myocarditis or quickening cancer after those people get vaccinated. It is just statisitical numbers, even without any knowledge of statistics, people should use common sense to smell something rotten.
If you survived from the vax, congratulation. But a lot did not survive. Your being survived does not mean Joe Rogan was absolutely wrong. I am not vaccinated and I never feel I am being sick from Covid-19, it doesn’t mean that the vaccine is absolutely useless.
SKA says
+1
40 rounds says
You survived the vaxx or COVID?
David M says
Watch the video. They were four teenagers walking up the road in Gaza. Who’s to say what their motives were? I don’t know, do you? Maybe they were wanting to ask for help. I am very disappointed people on here are supporting blowing up of civilians for any reason. What threat were they to Israel walking up the road in Gaza? None. Israel is also stopping food trucks getting in, people are starving in Gaza. Israel should go after Hamas, not blow up civilians & facilitate the starving of civilians as well.
somehistory says
Can you tell what their motives were? Even if Israel made a mistake in their case…I don’t know enough to decide whether or not it was….they are not committing “mass genocide.” And saying “mass” with “genocide” shows the word genocide is not fully understood by those saying it.
Genocide is the deliberate attempt to completely wipe out a nation, ethic group, or people. There is no need to include “mass” with that as eliminating an entire “people” or “nation” would mean a “mass” murder.
And it has been shown that Israel has been allowing in food and supplies, but hamas has taken all of it they wanted for themselves.
Look at the videos hamas made and then reassess. Perhaps then you’ll see why the posters here are saying what rogan said is wrong.
David M says
I agree, Israel is not committing mass genocide & could wipe out Gaza once & for all if they wanted to. My point is unarmed civilians should not be blown up by drones as they walk along a road. Not for any reason. Intentionally killing civilians is a war crime, end of story.